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Converter bolt question Lock tite????? #909694
01/20/11 04:43 PM 01/20/11 04:43 PM
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7/16 - 20 bolts get 65 ft lbs correct?

Also I've seen the lock tite post hundreds of times but don't remember the general consensus.... So I'll ask it again

Lock tite or not to lock tite on the flex plate to converter bolts

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Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? [Re: DemonDust] #909695
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ALL I have ever done is use RED ...and just tap the wrench with a rubber hammer.

...but I am sure the EXACT-&-Proper-Torque "police" will try and me ..

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? [Re: DemonDust] #909696
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Personally, we run a glide but I loctite the bolts with red, not going to hurt, but may save a flexplate, if the bolts back out. John

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Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? [Re: Mopar_racer_99] #909697
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Red here also. Had them in this last time for 2 years no worries. Was fun getting them out.
Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? [Re: Twin Turbo Mower] #909698
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Loctite blue here. I get them as tight as I can.

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Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? [Re: Twin Turbo Mower] #909699
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Red here also. Had them in this last time for 2 years no worries. Was fun getting them out.



YOU ever use RED on your mower blades ?
Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? [Re: BeEtLeJuIcE !] #909700
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Clean the bolts on a wire where,clean off any oil that may be on them with an oil free cleaner,make sure bolts are dry and apply 271 (red) loctite, and tighten the heck out of them.

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Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? [Re: pittsburghracer] #909701
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Blue Loctite on my flex plate to crank bolts. Just a lock washer on my converter to flex plate bolts.

The last couple years the trans has been coming out about every 10-15 passes so it needs to be easy. I've never used Loctite on the converter bolts.
Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? [Re: Jacob Pitt] #909702
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Loctite blue here. I get them as tight as I can.



Same here , done this on many convertors installed behind a Cummins , never an issue .
Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? [Re: BeEtLeJuIcE !] #909703
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Red here also. Had them in this last time for 2 years no worries. Was fun getting them out.



YOU ever use RED on your mower blades ?



No need I sharpen them everytime I mow the yard.
Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? [Re: Jacob Pitt] #909704
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Loctite blue here. I get them as tight as I can.

same here
Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? [Re: Quicktree] #909705
01/20/11 06:36 PM 01/20/11 06:36 PM
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Does the blue work better than the red?
The blue is weaker, but does it "give" enough to work better in this particular application?

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Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? [Re: an8sec70cuda] #909706
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Does the blue work better than the red?
The blue is weaker, but does it "give" enough to work better in this particular application?

red is supposed to be permanent, blue is removable. both will keep them from backing out 1 is harder to take out
Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? [Re: Quicktree] #909707
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I use Blue....when I have used red, I have sometimes had to heat the bolts with a propane torch to break them free.
Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? [Re: Quicksilver440] #909708
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Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? [Re: Twin Turbo Mower] #909709
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YOU ever use RED on your mower blades ?



No need I sharpen them everytime I mow the yard.



YOU have a really ruff lawn to mow...

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? [Re: BeEtLeJuIcE !] #909710
01/20/11 08:01 PM 01/20/11 08:01 PM
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YOU ever use RED on your mower blades ?



No need I sharpen them everytime I mow the yard.



YOU have a really ruff lawn to mow...



2 acers worth of thick grass. I just like to make sure it looks nice. Sharp blades and a walker ztr mower gets the baseball field look.
Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? [Re: Twin Turbo Mower] #909711
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how did we get into mowing grass

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? [Re: Quicktree] #909712
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how did we get into mowing grass


i think the answer is obvious.

for what is the good life if not doing things thoughtfully?
Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? [Re: BeEtLeJuIcE !] #909713
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I used RED on my dart, when I took everything back out yea it was a little snug but I just added a small cut piece of fence pipe for leverage on the ratchet and unloosened no sweat! Ill use red again

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Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? [Re: Quicktree] #909714
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Loctite blue here. I get them as tight as I can.

same here



I 3rd that
Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? [Re: DemonDust] #909715
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I use red.

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Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? [Re: Chris2581] #909716
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i think i use green is that one of the colors?

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Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? [Re: sixpackgut] #909717
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i think i use green is that one of the colors?




If your using green, you'll need heat to get them off. That's permanent loc-tite.
I like the red and really crank down on the bolts with a 12 point open end wrench and put a long bar over the end of the wrench for better leverage.

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? #909718
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i think i use green is that one of the colors?




If your using green, you'll need heat to get them off. That's permanent loc-tite.
I like the red and really crank down on the bolts with a 12 point open end wrench and put a long bar over the end of the wrench for better leverage.



that explains why i'm always buying propane

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Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? [Re: DemonDust] #909719
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BLUE.

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Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? [Re: maximum entropy] #909720
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how did we get into mowing grass


i think the answer is obvious.



Yeah .. obvious ?

A member by the name of Twin Turbo Mower answers this Q ...and I ask HIM if he uses this stuff on his MOWER BLADES.

A reasonable Q ....I think so.
Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? [Re: BeEtLeJuIcE !] #909721
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how did we get into mowing grass


i think the answer is obvious.



Yeah .. obvious ?

A member by the name of Twin Turbo Mower answers this Q ...and I ask HIM if he uses this stuff on his MOWER BLADES.

A reasonable Q ....I think so.


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i think i use green is that one of the colors?




If your using green, you'll need heat to get them off. That's permanent loc-tite.
I like the red and really crank down on the bolts with a 12 point open end wrench and put a long bar over the end of the wrench for better leverage.



...then hit with a hammer a couple times.

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Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? [Re: Quicktree] #909723
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Quote:

Quote:

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how did we get into mowing grass


i think the answer is obvious.



Yeah .. obvious ?

A member by the name of Twin Turbo Mower answers this Q ...and I ask HIM if he uses this stuff on his MOWER BLADES.

A reasonable Q ....I think so.





CrAzY you ? ... oh-tay ! ..

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? [Re: sixpackgut] #909724
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i think i use green is that one of the colors?


If you are using green (290) According to the loctite reps that came to the steel mill you may want to change next time. Every rep that came in recommended 271 for converter bolts. Here's a link for 290 (green)
http://www.loctiteproducts.com/p/t_lkr_green/overview/Loctite-Threadlocker-Green-290.htm

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Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? [Re: DemonDust] #909725
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Wow! So everyone uses loctite, just depends what color you want to use...

I think I'll use blue, in case I need to take it out....

Thanks for all the answers, and if I need any lawn mower tech I know where to come as well

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Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? [Re: DemonDust] #909726
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Just for the record 271 red tastes the best

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? [Re: emarine01] #909727
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Just for the record 271 red tastes the best



It taste like somthing the dentist uses.
Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? [Re: Twin Turbo Mower] #909728
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use red. If they are a little snug when you take them out then just warm the bolt(I use a little propane torch) and they come right out. You don't need to heat the hell out of it, just warm it up.

BTW, if you ever take apart a car(any daily driver-foreign or domestic) you will see loctite residue on just about every fastener.

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use red. If they are a little snug when you take them out then just warm the bolt(I use a little propane torch) and they come right out. You don't need to heat the hell out of it, just warm it up.

BTW, if you ever take apart a car(any daily driver-foreign or domestic) you will see loctite residue on just about every fastener.

MB

Thats because they are less concerned with you taking it apart than with leaks.

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Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? [Re: Crizila] #909730
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use red. If they are a little snug when you take them out then just warm the bolt(I use a little propane torch) and they come right out. You don't need to heat the hell out of it, just warm it up.

BTW, if you ever take apart a car(any daily driver-foreign or domestic) you will see loctite residue on just about every fastener.

MB

Thats because they are less concerned with you taking it apart than with leaks.



The conv bolts you buy from MP has a bit of lock-
tite on each and I dont rememmber what color it is,
might be blue or red... I hit them with a impact
through the starter area(not hammering on them)
Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? [Re: Quicksilver440] #909731
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I use Blue....when I have used red, I have sometimes had to heat the bolts with a propane torch to break them free.



How much torque were you applying to the bolts before the use of heat?

If red was holding that tight the bolt heads would break off before the threads came loose.

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Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? [Re: John_Kunkel] #909732
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BLUE for me.
Before I apply the LockTite, I spray the threads with carb cleaner to make sure there is no oil residue to weaken the bond.
Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? [Re: B5 Bee] #909733
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I don't know where people got the idea that Loctite is "permanent". I use a lot of Loctite and have never/ever had a problem removing a fastener.

Race cars are harsh environments, just like Harleys snd Diesel vehicles. It's just an extra measure of protection.

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