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Converter bolt question Lock tite?????

Posted By: DemonDust

Converter bolt question Lock tite????? - 01/20/11 08:43 PM

7/16 - 20 bolts get 65 ft lbs correct?

Also I've seen the lock tite post hundreds of times but don't remember the general consensus.... So I'll ask it again

Lock tite or not to lock tite on the flex plate to converter bolts
Posted By: dOc !

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? - 01/20/11 08:51 PM

ALL I have ever done is use RED ...and just tap the wrench with a rubber hammer.

...but I am sure the EXACT-&-Proper-Torque "police" will try and me ..
Posted By: Mopar_racer_99

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? - 01/20/11 08:52 PM

Personally, we run a glide but I loctite the bolts with red, not going to hurt, but may save a flexplate, if the bolts back out. John
Posted By: Twin Turbo Mower

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? - 01/20/11 08:54 PM

Red here also. Had them in this last time for 2 years no worries. Was fun getting them out.
Posted By: Jacob Pitt

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? - 01/20/11 09:02 PM

Loctite blue here. I get them as tight as I can.
Posted By: dOc !

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? - 01/20/11 09:02 PM

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Red here also. Had them in this last time for 2 years no worries. Was fun getting them out.



YOU ever use RED on your mower blades ?
Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? - 01/20/11 09:18 PM

Clean the bolts on a wire where,clean off any oil that may be on them with an oil free cleaner,make sure bolts are dry and apply 271 (red) loctite, and tighten the heck out of them.
Posted By: sg66mopar

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? - 01/20/11 09:25 PM

Blue Loctite on my flex plate to crank bolts. Just a lock washer on my converter to flex plate bolts.

The last couple years the trans has been coming out about every 10-15 passes so it needs to be easy. I've never used Loctite on the converter bolts.
Posted By: JohnRR

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? - 01/20/11 09:26 PM

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Loctite blue here. I get them as tight as I can.



Same here , done this on many convertors installed behind a Cummins , never an issue .
Posted By: Twin Turbo Mower

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? - 01/20/11 09:41 PM

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Red here also. Had them in this last time for 2 years no worries. Was fun getting them out.



YOU ever use RED on your mower blades ?



No need I sharpen them everytime I mow the yard.
Posted By: Quicktree

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? - 01/20/11 10:34 PM

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Loctite blue here. I get them as tight as I can.

same here
Posted By: an8sec70cuda

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? - 01/20/11 10:36 PM

Does the blue work better than the red?
The blue is weaker, but does it "give" enough to work better in this particular application?
Posted By: Quicktree

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? - 01/20/11 10:46 PM

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Does the blue work better than the red?
The blue is weaker, but does it "give" enough to work better in this particular application?

red is supposed to be permanent, blue is removable. both will keep them from backing out 1 is harder to take out
Posted By: Quicksilver440

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? - 01/20/11 10:51 PM

I use Blue....when I have used red, I have sometimes had to heat the bolts with a propane torch to break them free.
Posted By: 11secdart

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? - 01/20/11 11:48 PM

Red!
Posted By: dOc !

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? - 01/20/11 11:51 PM

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YOU ever use RED on your mower blades ?



No need I sharpen them everytime I mow the yard.



YOU have a really ruff lawn to mow...
Posted By: Twin Turbo Mower

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? - 01/21/11 12:01 AM

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YOU ever use RED on your mower blades ?



No need I sharpen them everytime I mow the yard.



YOU have a really ruff lawn to mow...



2 acers worth of thick grass. I just like to make sure it looks nice. Sharp blades and a walker ztr mower gets the baseball field look.
Posted By: Quicktree

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? - 01/21/11 12:06 AM

how did we get into mowing grass
Posted By: maximum entropy

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? - 01/21/11 12:10 AM

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how did we get into mowing grass


i think the answer is obvious.
Posted By: moparniac

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? - 01/21/11 12:22 AM

I used RED on my dart, when I took everything back out yea it was a little snug but I just added a small cut piece of fence pipe for leverage on the ratchet and unloosened no sweat! Ill use red again
Posted By: sjs64polara

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? - 01/21/11 12:46 AM

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Loctite blue here. I get them as tight as I can.

same here



I 3rd that
Posted By: Chris2581

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? - 01/21/11 01:37 AM

I use red.
Posted By: sixpackgut

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? - 01/21/11 01:47 AM

i think i use green is that one of the colors?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? - 01/21/11 02:16 AM

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i think i use green is that one of the colors?




If your using green, you'll need heat to get them off. That's permanent loc-tite.
I like the red and really crank down on the bolts with a 12 point open end wrench and put a long bar over the end of the wrench for better leverage.
Posted By: sixpackgut

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? - 01/21/11 02:26 AM

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i think i use green is that one of the colors?




If your using green, you'll need heat to get them off. That's permanent loc-tite.
I like the red and really crank down on the bolts with a 12 point open end wrench and put a long bar over the end of the wrench for better leverage.



that explains why i'm always buying propane
Posted By: Crizila

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? - 01/21/11 02:35 AM

BLUE.
Posted By: dOc !

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? - 01/21/11 02:48 AM

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how did we get into mowing grass


i think the answer is obvious.



Yeah .. obvious ?

A member by the name of Twin Turbo Mower answers this Q ...and I ask HIM if he uses this stuff on his MOWER BLADES.

A reasonable Q ....I think so.
Posted By: Quicktree

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? - 01/21/11 02:49 AM

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how did we get into mowing grass


i think the answer is obvious.



Yeah .. obvious ?

A member by the name of Twin Turbo Mower answers this Q ...and I ask HIM if he uses this stuff on his MOWER BLADES.

A reasonable Q ....I think so.

Posted By: CHAPPER

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? - 01/21/11 02:53 AM

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i think i use green is that one of the colors?




If your using green, you'll need heat to get them off. That's permanent loc-tite.
I like the red and really crank down on the bolts with a 12 point open end wrench and put a long bar over the end of the wrench for better leverage.



...then hit with a hammer a couple times.
Posted By: dOc !

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? - 01/21/11 03:04 AM

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Quote:

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how did we get into mowing grass


i think the answer is obvious.



Yeah .. obvious ?

A member by the name of Twin Turbo Mower answers this Q ...and I ask HIM if he uses this stuff on his MOWER BLADES.

A reasonable Q ....I think so.





CrAzY you ? ... oh-tay ! ..
Posted By: pittsburghracer

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? - 01/21/11 03:34 AM

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i think i use green is that one of the colors?


If you are using green (290) According to the loctite reps that came to the steel mill you may want to change next time. Every rep that came in recommended 271 for converter bolts. Here's a link for 290 (green)
http://www.loctiteproducts.com/p/t_lkr_green/overview/Loctite-Threadlocker-Green-290.htm
Posted By: DemonDust

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? - 01/21/11 03:34 AM

Wow! So everyone uses loctite, just depends what color you want to use...

I think I'll use blue, in case I need to take it out....

Thanks for all the answers, and if I need any lawn mower tech I know where to come as well
Posted By: emarine01

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? - 01/21/11 06:12 AM

Just for the record 271 red tastes the best
Posted By: Twin Turbo Mower

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? - 01/21/11 07:14 AM

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Just for the record 271 red tastes the best



It taste like somthing the dentist uses.
Posted By: HPMike

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? - 01/21/11 12:51 PM

use red. If they are a little snug when you take them out then just warm the bolt(I use a little propane torch) and they come right out. You don't need to heat the hell out of it, just warm it up.

BTW, if you ever take apart a car(any daily driver-foreign or domestic) you will see loctite residue on just about every fastener.

MB
Posted By: Crizila

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? - 01/21/11 03:53 PM

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use red. If they are a little snug when you take them out then just warm the bolt(I use a little propane torch) and they come right out. You don't need to heat the hell out of it, just warm it up.

BTW, if you ever take apart a car(any daily driver-foreign or domestic) you will see loctite residue on just about every fastener.

MB

Thats because they are less concerned with you taking it apart than with leaks.
Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? - 01/21/11 04:30 PM

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use red. If they are a little snug when you take them out then just warm the bolt(I use a little propane torch) and they come right out. You don't need to heat the hell out of it, just warm it up.

BTW, if you ever take apart a car(any daily driver-foreign or domestic) you will see loctite residue on just about every fastener.

MB

Thats because they are less concerned with you taking it apart than with leaks.



The conv bolts you buy from MP has a bit of lock-
tite on each and I dont rememmber what color it is,
might be blue or red... I hit them with a impact
through the starter area(not hammering on them)
Posted By: John_Kunkel

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? - 01/21/11 10:33 PM

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I use Blue....when I have used red, I have sometimes had to heat the bolts with a propane torch to break them free.



How much torque were you applying to the bolts before the use of heat?

If red was holding that tight the bolt heads would break off before the threads came loose.
Posted By: B5 Bee

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? - 01/21/11 11:21 PM

BLUE for me.
Before I apply the LockTite, I spray the threads with carb cleaner to make sure there is no oil residue to weaken the bond.
Posted By: HPMike

Re: Converter bolt question Lock tite????? - 01/21/11 11:30 PM

I don't know where people got the idea that Loctite is "permanent". I use a lot of Loctite and have never/ever had a problem removing a fastener.

Race cars are harsh environments, just like Harleys snd Diesel vehicles. It's just an extra measure of protection.

MB
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