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Re: building back half car [Re: CHAPPER] #903310
02/26/11 11:39 PM
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Looks like you pretty much have clearance for about anything you want to put about anywhere you want to put it!! What are you going to use for a car to attach everything to?? Just kidding. I am not trying to offend you,,,I just think that I would be sort of 'intimidated' by the project every time I went into the garage. I have gotten into some big jobs like this in the past, but, don't think I will live long enough to do one like this now. Good luck and keep us posted with pics.





Gotta' feel GOOD getting this far along ...Looking good!! Keep at it




Thanks. I took some time and ground down all four vertical welds on the front area of the crossmember. Actually, I ground 2 of them down twice because I still didn't like the way they looked. I think I am starting to get the hang of it somewhat. I played around alot with the wirespeed and I might leave these as is. Here is what they look like. I know they don;t look great , but I feel they are strong.









I started to fine tune the fit of the quarters and tailpanel, and I am getting the filler panel and trunk gutters in on Monday. I am also looking at parachute mounts so that I can install the mount before the rear valence is final welded in.

More to come,
Greg.


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Re: building back half car [Re: Chargerfan68] #903311
02/26/11 11:45 PM
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Greg, the third pic down is looking pretty good from where you started. Looks like you are getting the hang of it and a feel for vert up. That is the hardest weld to do besides a 6G IMO...

Keep it up you'll get it down, I can tell


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Re: building back half car [Re: DemonDust] #903312
02/26/11 11:57 PM
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Greg, the third pic down is looking pretty good from where you started. Looks like you are getting the hang of it and a feel for vert up. That is the hardest weld to do besides a 6G IMO...

Keep it up you'll get it down, I can tell




Thanks for the confidence. You've really helped me out alot. Would you leave these as be, or would you ground them down again and do them over again? I really slowed it down alot and feel they are pretty sound welds. You have the experience though. What do you think I sould do?


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Re: building back half car [Re: Chargerfan68] #903313
02/27/11 12:23 AM
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No more grinding..


If you keep welding and grinding you will effectively weaken the material by reheating it and embedding impurities from the grinder into the steel and crystalizing the steel changing the molecular structure. Really just making the metal brittle is what I'm saying


The only real part that concerns me is in the first picture 3/4" down from the seam you have some cold lap/roll and a crack could start from here.

The other thing that I see an issue with is the bottom of your frame rails hang below the cross member. I feel to make this a sound weld it should have been cut .25" shorter than the bottom of the cross member and boxed in so it could be welded %100.

Will it be a problem???? Probably not, but a crack could start from the bottom and work it's way up.

You could probably just take a 9" and a blue wheel and cut it free hand pretty easy. Just take care not to gouge the cross member. Then box the end in and practice your overheads


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Re: building back half car [Re: DemonDust] #903314
02/27/11 01:03 AM
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No more grinding..


If you keep welding and grinding you will effectively weaken the material by reheating it and embedding impurities from the grinder into the steel and crystalizing the steel changing the molecular structure. Really just making the metal brittle is what I'm saying


The only real part that concerns me is in the first picture 3/4" down from the seam you have some cold lap/roll and a crack could start from here.

The other thing that I see an issue with is the bottom of your frame rails hang below the cross member. I feel to make this a sound weld it should have been cut .25" shorter than the bottom of the cross member and boxed in so it could be welded %100.

Will it be a problem???? Probably not, but a crack could start from the bottom and work it's way up.

You could probably just take a 9" and a blue wheel and cut it free hand pretty easy. Just take care not to gouge the cross member. Then box the end in and practice your overheads




Thanks for the advice. The bottoms were intentionally left longer because I have to install a frame connector that buts up against the vertical part of the rail and goes forward to the tranny crossmember. Once that is tacked in, I will trim it flush and box it in all the way to the 4 link brackets.

Thanks again for the help...I'll keep practicing those welds on scrap.

Greg.


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Re: building back half car [Re: Chargerfan68] #903315
04/06/11 12:19 AM
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Even though I still have so much work ahead and didn't get much accomplished since last post, I am pretty psyched to see the tires and rims mocked up in the exact ride height postition. Now I can take more exact measurements relating to the sheetmetal /tub work needed. I am ready to order the Glasstek doors and deck lid so I can wrap up the final install of the sheetmetal. Then I can continue with the tub work and main floor/subframes.

Here are a few pictures:






More to follow!
Greg.


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Re: building back half car [Re: Chargerfan68] #903316
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Damn dude! you are just flying along. looks killer.

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04/07/11 03:21 PM
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Damn dude! you are just flying along. looks killer.




Thanks alot,Superfreak. Much appreciated.

Greg.


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Re: building back half car [Re: Chargerfan68] #903318
04/07/11 04:22 PM
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This is a great thread. Thanks for sharing. Car is looking great and that stance is going to be KILLER!

Re: building back half car [Re: POS Dakota] #903319
04/08/11 10:35 AM
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Looks awesome!

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Thanks very much for the comps. Your help has definitely allowed me to get this far.

Greg.


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Re: building back half car [Re: Chargerfan68] #903321
04/09/11 05:15 AM
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Wow that looks great!

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Wow. That looks super nice. Great thread too.

Re: building back half car [Re: Chargerfan68] #903323
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Those quarters look great... where did you get them...
I did quarters on a 70 Charger some time back and I had
3 times the amount of time into them to look nice as
I did to hang them

Re: building back half car [Re: MR_P_BODY] #903324
04/10/11 02:32 AM
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Those quarters look great... where did you get them...
I did quarters on a 70 Charger some time back and I had
3 times the amount of time into them to look nice as
I did to hang them





These are AMD Quarters. They are really super nice. They do bolt up very well with hardly any massaging. NOT perfect, but better than anything we could have hoped for.

Definitely worth the extra $

Thanks,
Greg.,


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Re: building back half car [Re: Chargerfan68] #903325
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The first time I opened this thread, I wasn't expecting to see the entire back half of the car missing! That would be a scary project for most of us to embark on. Kudo's!
Don't worry too much about how pretty the welds look. I've seen pretty welds fail.


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Re: building back half car [Re: Chargerfan68] #903326
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Wow, I came across this thread. You are doing a great job. The car is looking super. My question is what do you do for a living? If you are not a welder, bodyman, or chassis builder, again Wow, hats off to you.Keep the pictures coming. You are doing exactly what I would love to do to my car.

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Looks good.Keep up the good work.

Re: building back half car [Re: positivenoise] #903328
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Wow, I came across this thread. You are doing a great job. The car is looking super. My question is what do you do for a living? If you are not a welder, bodyman, or chassis builder, again Wow, hats off to you.Keep the pictures coming. You are doing exactly what I would love to do to my car.




Thanks very much. I am not a welder or chassis man by trade. I am not even involved with automobiles for work. It just helps that I try to spend almost every waking minute learning and reading about building cars. It is just a love. I never attempted anything like this (at this level). I can tell you that you can do it if you really want to. You just go as slow as you need and measure eveything 3 times to make sure it all goes right. I have been making mistakes, but I just correct and adjust my plans as I go.

It does help that I do have some experience with body and paint work on the side. But that does nothing for me with welding and chassiswork building.

What car would you like to do and how far would you like to go. Some details would be great.

Greg.


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Wow, I came across this thread. You are doing a great job. The car is looking super. My question is what do you do for a living? If you are not a welder, bodyman, or chassis builder, again Wow, hats off to you.Keep the pictures coming. You are doing exactly what I would love to do to my car.




Thanks very much. I am not a welder or chassis man by trade. I am not even involved with automobiles for work. It just helps that I try to spend almost every waking minute learning and reading about building cars. It is just a love. I never attempted anything like this (at this level). I can tell you that you can do it if you really want to. You just go as slow as you need and measure eveything 3 times to make sure it all goes right. I have been making mistakes, but I just correct and adjust my plans as I go.

It does help that I do have some experience with body and paint work on the side. But that does nothing for me with welding and chassiswork building.

What car would you like to do and how far would you like to go. Some details would be great.

Greg.


Greg, my car is a 70 Cuda. It has been raced since the late 70s but I have owned it since 86. The previous owner had cut the rear fenders and flared them a bit to fit tires.It is not that extreme but I really want to make it right someday. I wish I had some pictures of the old school roll bar it had in it. I put a cage and coil overs in the rear around 2003.Maybe seeing your work will inspire me. Also where abouts in NY are you? Ever go to LVD in the eastern part? Keep up the great work.[

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