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Re: building back half car [Re: rowin4] #903290
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Just a heads up. If your going to have a hinnged deck lid. Check hinge clearance to the tubs when the trunk is shut. A freind just tubbed his 62 dart and forgot to check. He had to shorten the hinges. Great looking build. Nice looking welds as well. Keep practicing the verticals. Little adjustments to speed and welder settings and they'll look like your others.
Doug

Re: building back half car [Re: dvw] #903291
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Just a heads up. If your going to have a hinnged deck lid. Check hinge clearance to the tubs when the trunk is shut. A freind just tubbed his 62 dart and forgot to check. He had to shorten the hinges. Great looking build. Nice looking welds as well. Keep practicing the verticals. Little adjustments to speed and welder settings and they'll look like your others.
Doug




Thanks Doug. I am going with a fiberglass lid and it will be pinned. Thanks for the heads up. I hope to practice a few more nights before I attempt more vertical welds. I'll post the results here.

I just ordered the deck filler and trunk gutters today, so it will be a few days at least before they go on to finalize the fit. So far, everything is really lining up nice. Only thing is I do have to narrow the horizontal portion of the rocker. They are just too wide to fit well. I guess it's a tolerence issue. I need to take off maybe .050-.060".

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Re: building back half car [Re: Chargerfan68] #903292
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What size wire are you using in your mig?...and is it a 110 or 220 machine?.....what type of gas?

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Those frame rails have some serious arch to them. Going to take some long shocks... I thought I was nuts for fixing my RoadRunner. It's looking good though. Do you have AMD on speed dial?

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Re: building back half car [Re: Chassisman] #903294
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What size wire are you using in your mig?...and is it a 110 or 220 machine?.....what type of gas?




I'm using .035" with 75/25 argon/co. It is a MM251 run on 220V. I think I had the setting on 16.5 with 250 wire speed (recommended for the rail thickness). I did some practice cutting it down to 215, and it was better, but still not like my horizontal welds. I will experiment with maybe 180 wirespeed with same voltage and see how that works.

I was using the inverted "V" pattern, but need to get better OP control I guess. Practice, practice.

Greg.


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What size wire are you using in your mig?...and is it a 110 or 220 machine?.....what type of gas?




I'm using .035" with 75/25 argon/co. It is a MM251 run on 220V. I think I had the setting on 16.5 with 250 wire speed (recommended for the rail thickness). I did some practice cutting it down to 215, and it was better, but still not like my horizontal welds. I will experiment with maybe 180 wirespeed with same voltage and see how that works.

I was using the inverted "V" pattern, but need to get better OP control I guess. Practice, practice.

Greg.


what PSI are you running the gas at? Also you might go to an .030 wire.... the smaller wire helps control peaking and puddling. .035 is more for 1/4" and up.

Re: building back half car [Re: JERICOGTX] #903296
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Those frame rails have some serious arch to them. Going to take some long shocks... I thought I was nuts for fixing my RoadRunner. It's looking good though. Do you have AMD on speed dial?

Jeff




Those are Chassisworks 4 link rails. THey take 16.5" shocks I think. I like your style... Road runner and stickshift. I have a Jerico ready and waiting to go in this Charger...Can't wait.

I am going to do this car to 25.5 , so I have alot of work ahead of me. I would love to see pics of your build. You do nice work.

Greg.


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Re: building back half car [Re: Chassisman] #903297
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What size wire are you using in your mig?...and is it a 110 or 220 machine?.....what type of gas?




I'm using .035" with 75/25 argon/co. It is a MM251 run on 220V. I think I had the setting on 16.5 with 250 wire speed (recommended for the rail thickness). I did some practice cutting it down to 215, and it was better, but still not like my horizontal welds. I will experiment with maybe 180 wirespeed with same voltage and see how that works.

I was using the inverted "V" pattern, but need to get better OP control I guess. Practice, practice.

Greg.


what PSI are you running the gas at? Also you might go to an .030 wire.... the smaller wire helps control peaking and puddling. .035 is more for 1/4" and up.




It is set at 25psi. You are right about the wire. I didn't have any .030" spools, but I should pick up a spool. Thanks for the advice.

Greg.


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Re: building back half car [Re: Chargerfan68] #903298
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What size wire are you using in your mig?...and is it a 110 or 220 machine?.....what type of gas?




I'm using .035" with 75/25 argon/co. It is a MM251 run on 220V. I think I had the setting on 16.5 with 250 wire speed (recommended for the rail thickness). I did some practice cutting it down to 215, and it was better, but still not like my horizontal welds. I will experiment with maybe 180 wirespeed with same voltage and see how that works.

I was using the inverted "V" pattern, but need to get better OP control I guess. Practice, practice.

Greg.




No "V" when doing vert up. Just zig zag back and forth. Pretty much straight across and just a hair up from where you were on the previous pass.

I hope you understand what I am saying. I'll try to draw a picture.


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Re: building back half car [Re: DemonDust] #903299
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What size wire are you using in your mig?...and is it a 110 or 220 machine?.....what type of gas?




I'm using .035" with 75/25 argon/co. It is a MM251 run on 220V. I think I had the setting on 16.5 with 250 wire speed (recommended for the rail thickness). I did some practice cutting it down to 215, and it was better, but still not like my horizontal welds. I will experiment with maybe 180 wirespeed with same voltage and see how that works.

I was using the inverted "V" pattern, but need to get better OP control I guess. Practice, practice.

Greg.




No "V" when doing vert up. Just zig zag back and forth. Pretty much straight across and just a hair up from where you were on the previous pass.

I hope you understand what I am saying. I'll try to draw a picture.


Think of it like the conductor of an ochestra.....waving his wand back and forth in an arc.

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What size wire are you using in your mig?...and is it a 110 or 220 machine?.....what type of gas?




I'm using .035" with 75/25 argon/co. It is a MM251 run on 220V. I think I had the setting on 16.5 with 250 wire speed (recommended for the rail thickness). I did some practice cutting it down to 215, and it was better, but still not like my horizontal welds. I will experiment with maybe 180 wirespeed with same voltage and see how that works.

I was using the inverted "V" pattern, but need to get better OP control I guess. Practice, practice.

Greg.




No "V" when doing vert up. Just zig zag back and forth. Pretty much straight across and just a hair up from where you were on the previous pass.

I hope you understand what I am saying. I'll try to draw a picture.




I understand exactly what you mean. I saw a video from "welding tips and tricks" and the guy did the inv. V and the weld looked better than my horiz welds. He said it penetrates the corner very good with that pattern, so I tried it.

I'll try going straight across like you say. I think I need to climb up more slowly. I have to just stay in the front of the puddle, and I might be pulling away to much. Maybe that;s why my weld looks uneven and ,well, "Crappy"

I'll let you know how some more practice works. Thanks.


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My Road Runner has pretty much been on the back burner until it warms up. No heat in my garage

I'm taking a week off in May to do nothing but work on it. I should be able to get the cage welded in, wheel tubs, and trunk installed, then it will get put on the rotisserie.

So what wheel, color combo is the Charger going to get when it's done?

Jeff

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This is the basic idea. In every corner just pause for a brief moment so the puddle flows into the previous pass.


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My Road Runner has pretty much been on the back burner until it warms up. No heat in my garage

I'm taking a week off in May to do nothing but work on it. I should be able to get the cage welded in, wheel tubs, and trunk installed, then it will get put on the rotisserie.

So what wheel, color combo is the Charger going to get when it's done?

Jeff




It is going to be black (another black charger around...surprise surprise) and I have the Weld Prostars 15 X 15. I am using a M/T 32 X 16 slick.

What about your road runner? What color/ combo?


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This is the basic idea. In every corner just pause for a brief moment so the puddle flows into the previous pass.




Thanks for that picture. I'll try it out with different lower speeds. I think I need to mess with the speed more and just get more practice.

Thank you


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My Road Runner has pretty much been on the back burner until it warms up. No heat in my garage

I'm taking a week off in May to do nothing but work on it. I should be able to get the cage welded in, wheel tubs, and trunk installed, then it will get put on the rotisserie.

So what wheel, color combo is the Charger going to get when it's done?

Jeff




It is going to be black (another black charger around...surprise surprise) and I have the Weld Prostars 15 X 15. I am using a M/T 32 X 16 slick.

What about your road runner? What color/ combo?




Car be be painted the original EE1 Dark blue, and 2 tone blue interior, just like when it was new. Going old school on the wheels.

No better color then black for a 68 Charger. Installing a Jerico is even better.

Jeff

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Jeff...Do you do your own painting,too??


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Good luck!


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Looks like you pretty much have clearance for about anything you want to put about anywhere you want to put it!! What are you going to use for a car to attach everything to?? Just kidding. I am not trying to offend you,,,I just think that I would be sort of 'intimidated' by the project every time I went into the garage. I have gotten into some big jobs like this in the past, but, don't think I will live long enough to do one like this now. Good luck and keep us posted with pics.





Gotta' feel GOOD getting this far along ...Looking good!! Keep at it


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