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C-body front disc brakes? #899666 01/08/11 05:28 PM 01/08/11 05:28 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,016 Polson, MT DoctorDiff OP master
DoctorDiff OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,016 Polson, MT	What was the first year single piston disc brakes were available on C-bodies? Do these parts interchange with '70-'72 C-body disc brakes? Contact info

Re: C-body front disc brakes? [Re: DoctorDiff] #899667 01/08/11 06:00 PM 01/08/11 06:00 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,679 A Andrewh master
Andrewh master A Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,679	should be 69 I think. The rotors are 2 piece till 72, and should be the same. calipers too, till the change in 73, though honestly I am not sure if the 73 caliper is different. I know the spindle and rotor are different in 73 only. That is the 73 rotors do not work on 72 and back spindles, and vice versa. Even though they bolt up to the suspension the same. The spindles bolt up from 65-73, with the exception of the budd disc to 68. The exception there is supposed to be the lower ball joint is different for the budd disc vs the drum and later disc ball joint. Though there was some debate on this, no one really had both side by side to verify and it is too expensive to get any lower ball joint for a cbody let alone the budd discs to verify.

Re: C-body front disc brakes? [Re: Andrewh] #899668 01/08/11 08:14 PM 01/08/11 08:14 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,360 Rancho Cordova, California (Sa... hemi71x master
hemi71x master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,360 Rancho Cordova, California (Sa...	Quote: should be 69 I think. RF-4C Phantom 69-370 Zweibrucken, Germany

Re: C-body front disc brakes? [Re: Andrewh] #899669 01/08/11 09:08 PM 01/08/11 09:08 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,016 Polson, MT DoctorDiff OP master
DoctorDiff OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,016 Polson, MT	Thanks for the information. I just had a batch of spindle sleeves machined, so the readily available '73 C-body/'75 pickup rotors will work with the earlier C-body knuckles. Contact info

Re: C-body front disc brakes? [Re: DoctorDiff] #899670 01/08/11 09:33 PM 01/08/11 09:33 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,468 So Cal autoxcuda Too Many Posts
autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,468 So Cal	Quote: Thanks for the information. I just had a batch of spindle sleeves machined, so the readily available '73 C-body/'75 pickup rotors will work with the earlier C-body knuckles. Thank you!

Re: C-body front disc brakes? [Re: DoctorDiff] #899671 01/08/11 09:37 PM 01/08/11 09:37 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,360 Rancho Cordova, California (Sa... hemi71x master
hemi71x master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,360 Rancho Cordova, California (Sa...	I have a complete BUDD disc brake system off a 69 Imperial in my storage locker. I took some pictures back in 2008 when i cleaned everything up. I will post some pictures what those BUDD spindles, and ball joint, tie rod, arms look like. Maybe it might be of interest to you guys. That old Chinese phrase, "A picture is worth a thousand words." Picture #1 Spindles 6405620-ImperialParts&Manifolds026[640x480].JPG (276 downloads) RF-4C Phantom 69-370 Zweibrucken, Germany

Re: C-body front disc brakes? [Re: hemi71x] #899672 01/08/11 09:38 PM 01/08/11 09:38 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,360 Rancho Cordova, California (Sa... hemi71x master
hemi71x master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,360 Rancho Cordova, California (Sa...	Picture #2 Back side of spindles. 6405624-ImperialParts&Manifolds027[640x480].JPG (256 downloads) RF-4C Phantom 69-370 Zweibrucken, Germany

Re: C-body front disc brakes? [Re: hemi71x] #899673 01/08/11 09:40 PM 01/08/11 09:40 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,360 Rancho Cordova, California (Sa... hemi71x master
hemi71x master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,360 Rancho Cordova, California (Sa...	Picture #3 Tie rod, ball joint arm. 6405630-ImperialParts&Manifolds031[640x480].JPG (274 downloads) RF-4C Phantom 69-370 Zweibrucken, Germany

Re: C-body front disc brakes? [Re: hemi71x] #899674 01/08/11 09:45 PM 01/08/11 09:45 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,360 Rancho Cordova, California (Sa... hemi71x master
hemi71x master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,360 Rancho Cordova, California (Sa...	Picture #4 BUDD Rotors & Hubs 6405649-ImperialParts&Manifolds018[640x480].JPG (278 downloads) RF-4C Phantom 69-370 Zweibrucken, Germany

Re: C-body front disc brakes? [Re: hemi71x] #899675 01/09/11 12:06 AM 01/09/11 12:06 AM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,688 Marlboro, NY, USA R Rick_Ehrenberg top fuel
Rick_Ehrenberg top fuel R Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,688 Marlboro, NY, USA	Quote: should be 69 I think. Yup, they were pin-type. Year range Rotor dia. Rotor Thickness Caliper type Eff. Piston area, in2 1966-�68 11.87" 0.875" Fixed 8.85 1969-�73* 11.75 1.125 Pin 5.93 1974-�78 11.75 1.25 Slider 7.54 * - note that 1973 (and some late �72s) uses a one-pc. rotor and requires a unique knuckle (or the new Dr. Diff adapter sleeve) Rick

Re: C-body front disc brakes? [Re: Rick_Ehrenberg] #899676 01/09/11 09:02 AM 01/09/11 09:02 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,074 Niles , Ohio T therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah. T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,074 Niles , Ohio	My 69 Imp had Budds also.It was a pain to get the seal back then.The 3 70 Imps I had all had single piston calipars.Rocky Chrysler Firepower

Re: C-body front disc brakes? [Re: hemi71x] #899677 01/09/11 11:34 AM 01/09/11 11:34 AM
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67Monaco member 6 Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 146 33950	Quote: Picture #4 BUDD Rotors & Hubs Don't let me find our address..... I've got a set on my 67 and I'm dreading when it comes time to seriously working on the front brakes. Or ball joints. --

Re: C-body front disc brakes? [Re: 67Monaco] #899678 01/09/11 12:23 PM 01/09/11 12:23 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,360 Rancho Cordova, California (Sa... hemi71x master
hemi71x master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,360 Rancho Cordova, California (Sa...	Quote: I've got a set on my 67 and I'm dreading when it comes time to seriously working on the front brakes. Or ball joints. Those BUDD calipers are extremely expensive to try and rebuild. Everyone that has them feels your pain. These BUDD calipers would need the full treatment. The piston bores are pitted, so they would need to be resleaved, the pistons are all corroded away, and reproduction kits from a restoration brake shop that i found in Florida, are very pricey for pieces of rubber. When it comes time for you to get into your brakes, check out calipersonline. 6406511-ImperialParts&Manifolds012[640x480].JPG (249 downloads) RF-4C Phantom 69-370 Zweibrucken, Germany

Re: C-body front disc brakes? [Re: hemi71x] #899679 01/09/11 12:52 PM 01/09/11 12:52 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 21,442 It's a dry heat gtx6970 Too Many Posts
gtx6970 Too Many Posts Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 21,442 It's a dry heat	I don't know about rotor and/or spindle interchanges , but I thought 1969 was still using the 4 piston caliper and 1970 was the 1st year for the single piston caliper

Re: C-body front disc brakes? [Re: hemi71x] #899680 01/09/11 01:43 PM 01/09/11 01:43 PM
Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 146 33950 6 67Monaco member
67Monaco member 6 Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 146 33950	Remanufactured calipers aren't that bad. From what I've seen Cardone's are coming down in price recently. My biggest concern is rotors and ball joints. --

Re: C-body front disc brakes? [Re: gtx6970] #899681 01/09/11 02:12 PM 01/09/11 02:12 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,360 Rancho Cordova, California (Sa... hemi71x master
hemi71x master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,360 Rancho Cordova, California (Sa...	Quote: I don't know about rotor and/or spindle interchanges , but I thought 1969 was still using the 4 piston caliper and 1970 was the 1st year for the single piston caliper Imperials used the Budd disc brakes up till 1969 C bodys used the Budd's up until 1968 RF-4C Phantom 69-370 Zweibrucken, Germany

Re: C-body front disc brakes? [Re: hemi71x] #899682 01/09/11 04:58 PM 01/09/11 04:58 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,074 Niles , Ohio T therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah. T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,074 Niles , Ohio	I know I sold a guy with a 68 Imp my Frt brake set up.He gladly paid 200 for them.He also bought my like new rear drums and a NOS E brake cable.After I scrapped a bunch of sheet metal I had a bunch of guys wanting it.Rocky Chrysler Firepower

Re: C-body front disc brakes? [Re: hemi71x] #899683 01/09/11 07:39 PM 01/09/11 07:39 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,068 Irving, TX feets Senior Management
feets Senior Management Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,068 Irving, TX	Quote: Those are some serious spindles! I haven't looked at mine yet. The Imperial is waiting patiently for the hot rod to be done. We are brothers and sisters doing time on the planet for better or worse. I'll take the better, if you don't mind. - Stu Harmon

Re: C-body front disc brakes? [Re: 67Monaco] #899684 01/10/11 02:38 AM 01/10/11 02:38 AM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 16,479 Canada CrAzYMoPaRGuY I Live Here
CrAzYMoPaRGuY I Live Here Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 16,479 Canada	Quote: Quote: Picture #4 BUDD Rotors & Hubs Don't let me find our address..... I've got a set on my 67 and I'm dreading when it comes time to seriously working on the front brakes. Or ball joints. You would hate me even MORE! I just tossed a GOOD Budd setup about a year ago, couldn't find anybody to GIVE them away to! I might have a few C body single piston brake parts/pieces around if somebody local wants them... but I'm tossing stuff like crazy. Flip-a-coin Gary has got a lot of donations... CrAzYMoPaRGuY

Re: C-body front disc brakes? [Re: CrAzYMoPaRGuY] #899685 01/11/11 11:40 AM 01/11/11 11:40 AM
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67Monaco member 6 Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 146 33950	ugg. --

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