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Re: Don't use a toggle switch for your line loc? [Re: 70HemiGTX] #619692 02/26/10 06:42 AM 02/26/10 06:42 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,361 PA 7 70HemiGTX top fuel
70HemiGTX top fuel 7 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,361 PA	I guess I should clarify that I run a stick, so I have no way of holding the car at the line with out using a line lock. I assume you guys with toggle switches have a trans-brake in you car. If you look in the picture and see the red toggle switch, I have to turn that toggle switch on before I can use my line lock. If I have it in the off position I can't apply the line lock at the momentary switch on the shifter handle. 5831120-DSCF0048.JPG (86 downloads) Last edited by 70HemiGTX; 02/26/10 06:46 AM.

Re: Don't use a toggle switch for your line loc? [Re: ProSport] #619693 02/26/10 09:19 AM 02/26/10 09:19 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 21,345 Marysville, O-H-I-O 70Cuda383 Too Many Posts
70Cuda383 Too Many Posts Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 21,345 Marysville, O-H-I-O	Quote: You guys are right, it's best to try and follow every single little rule in that thick book of rules, especially if your building from scratch. But like I said, there's a Painless toggle on my dash for my line lock and it is in no way 'stupid' to have it there. I can't power out of the water box unless it's switched off. What if someone has racing gloves on and doesn't realize they're finger is on their momentary button on their steering wheel or shifter til they hit the brakes at 130? Then are they gonna change the 'rule' to a toggle on the dash? I just get tired of all the little rules, I still haven't removed my on/off knob on the back of the car to change it to a push/pull that they require now. wait...the master kill switches have to be push-pull now?! I just put mine on last summer, haven't even been to a real race yet! Photobucket sucks

Re: Don't use a toggle switch for your line loc? [Re: 70Cuda383] #619694 02/26/10 09:38 AM 02/26/10 09:38 AM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,880 USA Ron Silva top fuel
Ron Silva top fuel Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,880 USA	wait...the master kill switches have to be push-pull now? NO. SRT DEMON ONE SEAT

Re: Don't use a toggle switch for your line loc? [Re: Ron Silva] #619695 02/26/10 11:02 AM 02/26/10 11:02 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,158 Hamilton,Ohio P POZEST top fuel
POZEST top fuel P Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,158 Hamilton,Ohio	Ok, time to tell on myself. Last fall at Muncie I accidentally bumped the toggle switch I use for a line lock on the starting line. This was during my 2nd time run and the first time I had ever been to this track. I could have sworn something had come apart in the steering column. It just wouldn't steer and was drifting to the left. I got stopped just short of the 330 timer about a inch from the wall. Had to climb out of the passenger side. Pulled the hood off to figure out why it wouldn't steer and it seemed ok. Jumped in the car for them to get me off the wall and figure out what to do and looked down to see the red toggle switch lit up! I was so embarrassed. Yes, I still use the toggle switch but you can see how things could have gotten real ugly. 5831328-16654_100583903302225_100000518471569_12326_1913549_n.jpg (53 downloads)

Re: Don't use a toggle switch for your line loc? [Re: BradH] #619696 02/26/10 11:13 AM 02/26/10 11:13 AM
Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,613 Burlington,Ont. 77DragracerR/T top fuel
77DragracerR/T top fuel Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,613 Burlington,Ont.	Quote: Sorry to change the topic. I haven't finished the wiring for my line lock, although the actual solenoid has been integrated into my braking system since 2008. The button supplied w/ the Hurst unit I have looks pretty "budget" and won't attach to my OEM Slap-Stik shifter very easily. Any recommendations (other than a toggle switch ) for a better part to use here? For the longest time i had my line loc hooked up to my horn relay and just used the horn pad.Keeps the hands on the steering wheel and when you release your thumb from the horn it moves forward.That was good until my horn pad died and i installed a toggle switch with a red light to show it's on.Either one works well. 77 Aspen R/T 60'@1.41 10.76 @ 123.26 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eya3Ue8KoZk

Re: Don't use a toggle switch for your line loc? [Re: 77DragracerR/T] #619697 02/26/10 03:05 PM 02/26/10 03:05 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 368 Detroit,MI B BADDART enthusiast
BADDART enthusiast B Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 368 Detroit,MI	I have a stick car and use a toggle and momentary switch.With toggle switch up(burnout mode)the 2-step is off.With the toggle down(race)the 2-step is on for launch. Next step is to take the momentary sw. off the shifter and put it on the clutch pedal. Chris Last edited by BADDART; 02/26/10 03:07 PM.

Re: Don't use a toggle switch for your line loc? [Re: BADDART] #619698 02/26/10 07:46 PM 02/26/10 07:46 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,825 Sk. Canada RemCharger master
RemCharger master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,825 Sk. Canada	Having the line loc on the rear brakes is more of a safety hazard than a seperate toggle switch that has to be off to move forward. And you are more likely to inadvertantly hit it if it is on a momentary switch on the shifter, right where your hand and fingers are.

Re: Don't use a toggle switch for your line loc? [Re: RemCharger] #619699 02/26/10 09:54 PM 02/26/10 09:54 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 21,345 Marysville, O-H-I-O 70Cuda383 Too Many Posts
70Cuda383 Too Many Posts Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 21,345 Marysville, O-H-I-O	Quote: Having the line loc on the rear brakes is more of a safety hazard than a seperate toggle switch that has to be off to move forward. And you are more likely to inadvertantly hit it if it is on a momentary switch on the shifter, right where your hand and fingers are. that's kind of how I feel too. if the car won't move till you turn the lock OFF...then it'll be really hard to forget to turn it off. that, and a LIGHTED rocker switch will also give you the red light that says "hey dummy, turn me off" Photobucket sucks

Re: Don't use a toggle switch for your line loc? [Re: Lawn Monkey] #619700 02/27/10 12:18 AM 02/27/10 12:18 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,048 Atlanta Indiana D Dave Watt master
Dave Watt master D Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,048 Atlanta Indiana	If I recall correctly, the NHRA says the linelock can only be connected to the front brakes, not the rear. I tried to download the NHRA rulebook but evidently you have to be a member.

Re: Don't use a toggle switch for your line loc? [Re: Dave Watt] #619701 02/27/10 12:26 AM 02/27/10 12:26 AM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion	How in the hell can you do a burnout w/the rear brakes locked out? I would think the only reason to lock out the rears would be for leaving the line kinda like a poor mans trans brake.....am I off base here? 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: Don't use a toggle switch for your line loc? [Re: plumridiculous] #619702 02/27/10 12:30 AM 02/27/10 12:30 AM
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,349 warfordsburg, PA dirt pro stock
dirt pro stock Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,349 warfordsburg, PA	i had a toggle switch on my cuda line lock. the E brake didnt work so i flipped the line lock on to hold the car , i was only going to let it sit for a few minutes so i could move another car that was in my way to the garage. well i got side tracked and left the cuda sit on the hill, forgot about it. when the battery died the car rolled down the hill and hit a tree. yea i know that was stupid, thats why i dont like a toggle, i'm to brain dead to remember to turn it off sometimes.

Re: Don't use a toggle switch for your line loc? [Re: Thumperdart] #619703 02/27/10 01:42 AM 02/27/10 01:42 AM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,825 Sk. Canada RemCharger master
RemCharger master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,825 Sk. Canada	Quote: How in the hell can you do a burnout w/the rear brakes locked out? I would think the only reason to lock out the rears would be for leaving the line kinda like a poor mans trans brake.....am I off base here? I've used a setup in the rear and it works good. You hit the solenoid, and hammer the brakes (activating the front) and then you have manual control coming out of the box. Then you have to turn it off. The problem is if the solenoid is on down the track and it locks the rear.... thats the most dangerous situation.

Re: Don't use a toggle switch for your line loc? [Re: RemCharger] #619704 02/28/10 08:51 AM 02/28/10 08:51 AM
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torredcuda super stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,030 NH	IHRA rulebook- All line locks must be self-returning upon the release of the switch and return the system to normal operating mode. https://www.facebook.com/jeffrey.hunt.750/ https://www.facebook.com/pages/Northeast-Mighty-Mopar-Club/365435766974452?ref=aymt_homepage_panel `72 Barracuda 340/4spd `70 road runner 383/auto `73 road runner 400/4spd `76 W100 clubcab

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