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Re: Don't use a toggle switch for your line loc?
[Re: jamesc]
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You can use a toggle sw. Maybe someone is confusing the rule book where it says the line lock solenoid has to be self returning to a normal state. In other words when the power is lost the spring inside pushes the plunger to restore NORMAL brake operation.
Could you imagine if the power was lost due to something like a blown fuse causing a disabling your brakes!!!!
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Re: Don't use a toggle switch for your line loc?
[Re: Lawn Monkey]
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I`ve been using a toggle switch from day one. I pump the brakes hard, hit the toggle, do my burn out then shut it off it in 3rd gear and roll foreward and stage. So far so good.
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Re: Don't use a toggle switch for your line loc?
[Re: jamesc]
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Gee, every time I race I do a burnout. Everytime I am done with the burnout I release the line loc and roll out of the water. After that my hands go to the steering wheel and shifter. It's not going to get left on. Everything does not have to be "idiot proof". I guess I can forget to steer straight and hit the wall too. I am being sarcastic. But I am responsible for the operation of the car and I have confidence I will not forget it.
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Re: Don't use a toggle switch for your line loc?
[Re: jamesc]
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that's my point. it's been MANY years since i used one but i do remember some (if not all) of them you would engage the loc then press the brake trapping the fluid, then release the brake. if you use a toggle switch and it somehow gets left on during the run then hit the brakes hard and release the the brakes fronts won't release. i would think a momentary push button is less like for this to happen.
That's probably what was meant I see the reason and its possible but kinda unlikely but with a button the line loc could not accidentally be left on so it makes sense now.....
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Re: Don't use a toggle switch for your line loc?
[Re: Cab_Burge]
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Back when I ran a shorty T-flite that did away with park in the van, I used the linelock like a parking brack. That is why I put in a switch for a short time hold. If I left the van for a long line I would put a block of wood under the tire and turn the switch off. When I went to the glide I had a park but never changed it back. Never have had a problem either. 
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Re: Don't use a toggle switch for your line loc?
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i may be wrong but isnt this how ted put his car into the wall?
everyone thinks they wont mess up, until they do.
imo a momentary switch weather it be toggle or button should be the only way it should be wired.
 x2 a toggle switch on a line loc does not go in the same equation.
momentary switch with a red light to show it went off. no other way imo.
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Re: Don't use a toggle switch for your line loc?
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for what it's worth self returning switch of some sort never a switch that could be left on. mistakes do happen even if you've been doing it for a long time one could screw up. Example. A racer for a LONG time finished a pass {lucky @ 1/8 mile track} after the finish line for some reason he doesn't know why he reached over and slammed it in to reverse.   off in the bushes he went. after going every which way but strength. never say never 
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Re: Don't use a toggle switch for your line loc?
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After using a toggle switch for my line lock for about 2 decades with no problems at all, I have to ask, how am I even gonna drive to the starting line if I accidently left something on that has my front brakes locked up?
I start in 2nd gear for a half second, go to 3rd, flip my toggle off and power out, coast to starting line. Not even possible to leave it on.
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Re: Don't use a toggle switch for your line loc?
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After using a toggle switch for my line lock for about 2 decades with no problems at all, I have to ask, how am I even gonna drive to the starting line if I accidently left something on that has my front brakes locked up?
I start in 2nd gear for a half second, go to 3rd, flip my toggle off and power out, coast to starting line. Not even possible to leave it on.
That's the way I do it. Flick it off, and move my hand to the wheel as I roll out of the box.
Everyone has to decide where the line is on making stuff "idiot proof"
In all honesty, I don't think anything is idiot proof.
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Re: Don't use a toggle switch for your line loc?
[Re: gtsdude]
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I use one with a red cover on it, easy to tell if you leave it up and cant get bumped on accidently.
Good answer. IMO, you can use one. You have to release it to get out of the water box (that is what a line lock is used for... the burn out [not a clutch car]).
But mine is a button on the top of the shifter.
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What ever that can go wrong will in the most inoportune time 
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