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Re: Don't use a toggle switch for your line loc?
[Re: ProSport]
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02/22/10 12:19 PM
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After using a toggle switch for my line lock for about 2 decades with no problems at all, I have to ask, how am I even gonna drive to the starting line if I accidently left something on that has my front brakes locked up?
I start in 2nd gear for a half second, go to 3rd, flip my toggle off and power out, coast to starting line. Not even possible to leave it on.
That's what I was thinking too. If you left it on, how would you get out of the water box? Or out of the starting gate?
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Re: Don't use a toggle switch for your line loc?
[Re: Thumperdart]
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02/22/10 06:10 PM
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I`ve been using a toggle switch from day one. I pump the brakes hard, hit the toggle, do my burn out then shut it off it in 3rd gear and roll foreward and stage. So far so good.
SO have I. I've never had a problem with a toggle switch. I shift the car into high gear in theburnout box the click it with my pinky finger and roll on out.
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Re: Don't use a toggle switch for your line loc?
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02/22/10 06:15 PM
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I had a toggle switch hooked up to my momentary switch on my B&M shifter button.... flipped on the toggle and the momentary button was now active...
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Re: Don't use a toggle switch for your line loc?
[Re: moparniac]
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02/22/10 06:49 PM
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Racers Tip: Go out for a walk. While you are walking reach into your pocket and pull out some gum. Continue walking and put the gum into your mouth. Chew the gum. If you haven't broken stride yet, you can now use a toggle switch to do your burnout. 
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Re: Don't use a toggle switch for your line loc?
[Re: BradH]
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02/22/10 11:25 PM
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You can just go to Summit.com or Jegs.com and search through their buttons. It could go on your shifter or steering wheel.
1970 Challenger, all aluminum 528 Hemi, HDK suspension, Tremec 5 speed manual
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Re: Don't use a toggle switch for your line loc?
[Re: tboomer]
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02/23/10 08:16 AM
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Probally because some guys use them to lock the rear brakes out.They do burnout and the rears arent working.Then they deactivate and they work.Stopping at 100 plus would be fun with just fronts.Rocky
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Re: Don't use a toggle switch for your line loc?
[Re: Lawn Monkey]
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02/23/10 08:35 AM
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Personally I use a button on the top of the shifter, I do my burnout in high gear only and when its spinning good I let go of the button and burn till it bites. Too many things going on to MAYBE mess up and flip the switch back on when you think you turned it off but this is JMO 
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Re: Don't use a toggle switch for your line loc?
[Re: Lawn Monkey]
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02/23/10 11:42 AM
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I use a momentary button on the shifter.
Here is proof that I can screw anything up:
First time out with my new stick trans in this car that I've had since I was 16 and I screwed up the first run. Pretty nervous. Staged and held just a few pound on the brakes to keep from rolling. My line loc was at the time, hooked to my two step rev limiter (set at 4500rpm). I dump the clutch at green and forget to let go of the button. Popping and banging and not going real fast. I shifted into second the same way and then I realized that it didn't feel right holding my shifter when shifting. "let go of the button, dummy!".
Still ran an 11.9, blowing the tires off, and eventually missing 3rd and 4th gear on that run. What a catastrophy!!!
Now I have simplified it. Clutch switch, and dash switch with relay. Push clutch in, push button on dash, that sets the 2-step. Once the clutch comes out all the way, 2 step is off and can't be reset until the button on the dash is pushed again (momentary). Switch on the shifter is now just for the line lock (momentary). Only really going to use it in the box and maybe, if the car want's to roll at the tree.
Just my little funny story,....sorry to bore you!
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Re: Don't use a toggle switch for your line loc?
[Re: 70HemiGTX]
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02/25/10 08:49 AM
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Isn't it still a rule that you MUST USE a "Self returning" to off switch on a line lock? I have an old rule book (2006 I think) and it is listed in the general regs (brakes very last line of the paragraph). I don't understan why anyone would even think of having a switch that would not return it's self to the normal operating position on the brake lines. There is always a first time for anything. 
i couldn't  more.i push button on the dash on my 63 with my left hand and hold the line lok button with my right.
its tough enough pushing buttons, i couldnt do it any other way.
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Re: Don't use a toggle switch for your line loc?
[Re: 52savoy]
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02/25/10 07:32 PM
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You guys are right, it's best to try and follow every single little rule in that thick book of rules, especially if your building from scratch. But like I said, there's a Painless toggle on my dash for my line lock and it is in no way 'stupid' to have it there. I can't power out of the water box unless it's switched off. What if someone has racing gloves on and doesn't realize they're finger is on their momentary button on their steering wheel or shifter til they hit the brakes at 130? Then are they gonna change the 'rule' to a toggle on the dash?  I just get tired of all the little rules, I still haven't removed my on/off knob on the back of the car to change it to a push/pull that they require now. 
1970 Challenger, all aluminum 528 Hemi, HDK suspension, Tremec 5 speed manual
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Re: Don't use a toggle switch for your line loc?
[Re: ProSport]
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02/25/10 11:13 PM
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You guys are right, it's best to try and follow every single little rule in that thick book of rules, especially if your building from scratch. But like I said, there's a Painless toggle on my dash for my line lock and it is in no way 'stupid' to have it there. I can't power out of the water box unless it's switched off.
What if someone has racing gloves on and doesn't realize they're finger is on their momentary button on their steering wheel or shifter til they hit the brakes at 130? Then are they gonna change the 'rule' to a toggle on the dash?
I just get tired of all the little rules, I still haven't removed my on/off knob on the back of the car to change it to a push/pull that they require now.
I use a toogle on the dash it works perfectly IMO and I really don't think i'm stupid either.
George..
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Re: Don't use a toggle switch for your line loc?
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#619691
02/26/10 01:23 AM
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My Dad had a toggle on the dash in his truck...worked great for the linelock!!
I use the button on the shifter..when I first got Nitrous I decided to run a toggle that would switch the button from line lock to Nitrous!
Needless to say, it only took hitting the Nitrous once, and jumping through the water box for me to realize that was a very, very BAD idea!!!
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A fail safe on the brake Line lock is the only way to go, with the eletronics that we can get our hands on today any driver would be stupid 
to install a ON & Off switch (toggle) in the car. 
If you boys need a switch for the line lock then install the proper line lock switch (Micro), Stage Control switch for under 30 bucks. Your life is worth that.
