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Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed #385924 07/25/09 03:56 PM 07/25/09 03:56 PM
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ademon OP master A Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,906 IL, Aurora	Need pics mostly of the throttle kickdown side, pics without air cleaner, also what were the bolt head markings on the intake manifold bolts, valve cover bolts, t-quad bolts, did the valve covers have the little triangle hold downs? Sorry for the dumb questions but i've never seen a original untouched 71 340.

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: ademon] #385925 07/25/09 05:21 PM 07/25/09 05:21 PM
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Challenger 1 Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio	Quote: but i've never seen a original untouched 71 340. I'm no expert at all, but I was lucky enough to have owned a original 71 340 4 speed RT challenger when I was 17. It was completly stock when I got it in 1977. Sadly I totalled that car after only about 6 months. So sorry I can't help because I didn't own a camera back then and don't remember what it looked like. But I kept everything off that car, junked the body, I know junked!!

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: ademon] #385926 07/25/09 05:51 PM 07/25/09 05:51 PM
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autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,471 So Cal	Quote: Need pics mostly of the throttle kickdown side, pics without air cleaner, also what were the bolt head markings on the intake manifold bolts, valve cover bolts, t-quad bolts, did the valve covers have the little triangle hold downs? Sorry for the dumb questions but i've never seen a original untouched 71 340. Pictures from Bill Sefton's EV2 71 Demon 340 super survivor would really help. I thought it was at some Illinois Area shows recently?? This is the best I have. Should help you with other things though. I think it had the air cleaner on all day. It was convered in full color in MCG once. Others may have better pics of it. 5375178-SF08SteveWSat226.JPG (187 downloads)

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: ademon] #385927 07/25/09 08:33 PM 07/25/09 08:33 PM
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Steve340 pro stock S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,547 Puyallup, Wa.	The intake bolts have a sunken head with a captive washer and an anchor stamped on the head. The valve covers had the same thing but smaller bolts. The carb is bolted down with bolts that have an "H" on the top with no washers. 5375467-wire2.JPG (110 downloads)

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: Steve340] #385928 07/26/09 09:03 AM 07/26/09 09:03 AM
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AdamR master A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,978 Bethel Ct	Heres some pictures I have collected. http://www.340swinger.org/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=58&start=0

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: AdamR] #385929 07/26/09 11:50 AM 07/26/09 11:50 AM
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ademon OP master A Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,906 IL, Aurora	Thanks guys, Their was a 72 paxton demon at a show here a week ago that i think may have been Bills. Mike

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: ademon] #385930 07/26/09 12:57 PM 07/26/09 12:57 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Adam, Some of those pics you posted on that other thread were ones I sent you, here's some story on them. The grimey looking complete engine less carb is mostly original, it's good for most detail references. The complete restored looking engine has a few mistakes, it's "pretty" but I wouldn't use that one as a correct detailing reference. The intake photo side by side is correctly labled according to thier casting dates. I have more pics of Bills Survivor 71 340 Demon (orange car) that I took when it was OE judged in Vegas, some without the air cleaner. It has a 1972 replacement carb and a few other minor details wrong on top. I'll post pics when I dig them up.

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: ademon] #385931 07/26/09 01:18 PM 07/26/09 01:18 PM
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1_WILD_RT Management Trainee Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows?	Every photo posted shows the 71 340 as being Orange which is correct till April or May then they were painted blue...

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: ademon] #385932 07/26/09 01:18 PM 07/26/09 01:18 PM
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mopars_1 master M Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,106 Ridgeland Wi	on the topic of detailed 340's, did the 71's come with the right angle oil filter adapter? in some of the pics it doesn't show one but on my origianl 71 318 it does? thanks Last edited by mopars_1; 07/26/09 01:22 PM. 1971 Plymouth Duster 340 auto 1937 Plymouth PT50 1969 Dodge Dart Swinger 340 4 speed 2013 Ram laramie 2500 hemi 2008 Harley FLSTSB springer

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: autoxcuda] #385933 07/26/09 01:18 PM 07/26/09 01:18 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Here's a couple 5376722-DemonSurvivor340Engine.jpg (132 downloads)

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #385934 07/26/09 01:19 PM 07/26/09 01:19 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Carb (72 model) 5376725-SurvivorDemonCarb.jpg (92 downloads)

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #385935 07/26/09 01:20 PM 07/26/09 01:20 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Another angle, this is a column shift automatic car SPD first week of October 1970 at the Hamtramck plant 5376728-Survivor71DemonBoosterInspectionMark.jpg (99 downloads)

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #385936 07/26/09 01:25 PM 07/26/09 01:25 PM
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Challenger 1 Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio	Quote: Every photo posted shows the 71 340 as being Orange which is correct till April or May then they were painted blue... Good point, my 71 had a blue engine in it.

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: Challenger 1] #385937 07/26/09 01:33 PM 07/26/09 01:33 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Every photo posted shows the 71 340 as being Orange which is correct till April or May then they were painted blue... Yes, the April (ish) 1971 is the changover date most agree on concerning when the color change was made, the exact changover date is yet to be proven (I doubt it ever will be). The 2 intakes shown side by side in the link above show a small casting difference, it is thought that the engine color change happened about the time they started using the revised casting so most cars built after March 71 should likey have this intake style. (Attachment is a 71 Cuda 340 convertible, I believe it has a June 71 build date, shows the correct late 71 340 color) 5376747-340Mundane.jpg (100 downloads)

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #385938 07/26/09 01:36 PM 07/26/09 01:36 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Here is a "survivor" 71 340 engine in a Duster, It has had some touch up so use caution duplicating details. 5376751-34071EnginePurpleDuster.jpg (126 downloads)

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #385939 07/26/09 01:37 PM 07/26/09 01:37 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	This 71 Duster 340 has been restored and placed well in restored original judging, however, I would be cautious using it's finer details as reference. 5376754-7134091PointsShowfieldMoparNationalsseveralyearsback.jpg (103 downloads)

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #385940 07/26/09 05:05 PM 07/26/09 05:05 PM
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ademon OP master A Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,906 IL, Aurora	Thanks guys, so I'm assuming the ancore head bolts for the intake and V/C's are generally accepted correct, I've herd RCS head markings and H like Steve340 said are both generally correct. How about the coil bolts, and did the V/C's have the little triangle washers under some of the bolts?. Also in the pics below my 340 has what i think is a incorrect throttle cable bracket (disreguard the homemade aluminum spacer), does anyone know what it is for? Also is the threaded adjustable kickdown linkage part repoped, as you can see i modified it to work with the setup i have. Thanks a bunch. 5377062-July2009001.jpg (65 downloads)

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: ademon] #385941 07/26/09 05:07 PM 07/26/09 05:07 PM
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ademon OP master A Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,906 IL, Aurora	threaded end on kickdown linkage 5377063-July2009002.jpg (93 downloads)

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: ademon] #385942 07/26/09 05:28 PM 07/26/09 05:28 PM
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Thread Ender1 master Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,679 owt west	Here's one of my buddy Ron's late build date 71 340 Demon mill, the picture isnt that good. I just went over today and used it for reference for my 71 340. It has TR on the carb bolts, no anhcors on the intake bolts, as far as i know the all came with 45 deg oil adapters. 5377092-DSCN1802(Large).JPG (108 downloads)

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: ademon] #385943 07/26/09 05:31 PM 07/26/09 05:31 PM
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autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,471 So Cal	Quote: and did the V/C's have the little triangle washers under some of the bolts?. No Quote: Also in the pics below my 340 has what i think is a incorrect throttle cable bracket (disreguard the homemade aluminum spacer), does anyone know what it is for? Also is the threaded adjustable kickdown linkage part repoped, as you can see i modified it to work with the setup i have. Thanks a bunch. It looks to be extended upwards becuase of the aftermarket higher rise intake and the holley carb. I don't know if 71 had a different thottle cable bracket. This one is listed in some places for 68-70 Picture from Bill Allphin's site: http://www.amhightechauto.com/ Check with him for the kickdown linkage. Are you sure your's is modified. It just looks like some ground the end link rounded and added a lock nut (neccessary?) Last edited by autoxcuda; 07/26/09 05:40 PM.

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #385944 07/26/09 08:55 PM 07/26/09 08:55 PM
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gtx6970 Too Many Posts Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 21,446 It's a dry heat	Are the white plastic spark plug wire seperators supposed to be engine color or left natural? In the pics posted they all appear natural, that or the paint has flaked off over the years. My former chall 340 they were missing so I guessed when I did it and painted them. I know big blocks were in fact engine color . and I know later years small blocks are engine color

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: gtx6970] #385945 07/26/09 09:22 PM 07/26/09 09:22 PM
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autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,471 So Cal	Quote: Are the white plastic spark plug wire seperators supposed to be engine color or left natural? In the pics posted they all appear natural, that or the paint has flaked off over the years. My former chall 340 they were missing so I guessed when I did it and painted them. I know big blocks were in fact engine color . and I know later years small blocks are engine color Bill, did the 71 and up with TQ's get a different throttle kickdown assy?

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: autoxcuda] #385946 07/26/09 09:47 PM 07/26/09 09:47 PM
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gtx6970 Too Many Posts Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 21,446 It's a dry heat	As far as I know the 71 bracket is the same as 1970 ( Same pt # in the parts book ) . I don't have a newer parts book here at the house to say for sure about 72 and newer. But I've seen some newer 360's with what appears to be the exact same bracket on it

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: gtx6970] #385947 07/26/09 10:09 PM 07/26/09 10:09 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Bill every untouched original wire loom I've seen (the white nylon portion) were bare with no paint, it seems reasonable to assume that they were added just prior to installing the distributor and plug wires. Speaking on painted parts, I have yet to see an original dip stick painted engine color, so far all have been black and the tube engine color. The rubber valve cover grommets, PCV valve, and oil fill cap have all been engine color. I'm speaking on 71 engines painted orange, there may have been variations with different era small blocks.

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #385948 07/26/09 10:54 PM 07/26/09 10:54 PM
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ademon OP master A Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,906 IL, Aurora	I'm guessint the one in my pic is for a 2 bbl manifold, the pic from Bills site looks like the 340 one ( taller and over to the V/C side to line up better with the T-quad linkage), and a 72 one that i have is set up for what i think was a different kickdown setup without the threaded end. i'll post a pic of the 72 in a bit. One thing is for sure, no one is 100% on 340's Maybe i can get a hold of Rhinodart to see if Bill's car is in chicagoland area, and spend an hour taking pic's and verifying bolt , kickdown, brackets, ect...

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: ademon] #385949 07/26/09 10:58 PM 07/26/09 10:58 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Quote: One thing is for sure, no one is 100% on 340's A truer statement would be that no one is 100% sure on any Mopar engine detail, some better than others but there are debatable items on almost all of them. 340 details are known quite well by a few, but it's a small number at this time. There are still some minor details that get debated, just as on other Mopar engines. *Bills Demon (and Jim Rhineheart) are in Scotsdale AZ right now, just spoke with him today

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #385950 07/26/09 11:57 PM 07/26/09 11:57 PM
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autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,471 So Cal	Quote: Quote: One thing is for sure, no one is 100% on 340's A truer statement would be that no one is 100% sure on any Mopar engine detail, some better than others but there are debatable items on almost all of them. 340 details are known quite well by a few, but it's a small number at this time. There are still some minor details that get debated, just as on other Mopar engines. *Bills Demon (and Jim Rhineheart) are in Scotsdale AZ right now, just spoke with him today And every year 340 is a little different too. And you have the 340 six packs that are an animal in thier own. Because of TA/AAR values those engines are more researched out. And didn't the the 340 TQ's in 71 have a recall or some issue? And most were swapped to a 72 TQ. Making a survivor with the OE carb even harder to find. When someone back in the day does a carb swap stuff gets disturbed at the same time. That's got to make it tough to find 71 info. Is they why the orange Demon has it's carb switched?

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: autoxcuda] #385951 07/27/09 12:01 AM 07/27/09 12:01 AM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Quote: And didn't the the 340 TQ's in 71 have a recall or some issue? And most were swapped to a 72 TQ Not a recall, but if serviced for carb issues there was some service bullitin that reccomend a 72 TQ as a replacment. The Demon had some kind of problem back in the day, small carb fire or something, as a result it is also wearing some touch up engine paint on the intake and drivers VC

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #385952 07/27/09 12:51 AM 07/27/09 12:51 AM
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chrisf master C Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,948 British Columbia	my demon still retains its original 71 carb but its far from a reference example. i have the majority of the correct ($$$) parts now just a few more peices and i will be ready to start the resto.

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: chrisf] #385953 07/27/09 01:31 AM 07/27/09 01:31 AM
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ademon OP master A Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,906 IL, Aurora	Quote: my demon still retains its original 71 carb but its far from a reference example. i have the majority of the correct ($$$) parts now just a few more peices and i will be ready to start the resto. Looks nice to me Just having the original carb and what looks to be the original master cyl puts you way ahead of the game !!

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #385954 07/27/09 07:27 AM 07/27/09 07:27 AM
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gtx6970 Too Many Posts Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 21,446 It's a dry heat	Scott, the 340 I'm building now for a customer came out of a 1970 duster 340 back in the early to mid-eighties. and the tube and dipstick are both engine color.(orange) I have no reason to think either have ever been touched

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: gtx6970] #385955 07/27/09 09:35 AM 07/27/09 09:35 AM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	I wouldn't doubt it Bill, just haven't seen it myself, have any pics?

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #385956 07/27/09 10:24 AM 07/27/09 10:24 AM
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ademon OP master A Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,906 IL, Aurora	heres what a think is a 72 and later 340/360 4 bbl throttle bracket, with the pic of a 71 style above. 5378637-July2009.jpg (86 downloads)

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: ademon] #385957 07/27/09 10:47 AM 07/27/09 10:47 AM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Here are the two different 71 340 intake castings shown side by side to show the differences. 5378664-ThermoquadIntakes.jpg (130 downloads)

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #385958 07/27/09 10:50 AM 07/27/09 10:50 AM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Same casting number and physically the same at a glance but look further and...... 5378669-ThermoquadIntakes71comparo.jpg (166 downloads)

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #385959 07/27/09 11:14 AM 07/27/09 11:14 AM
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F1Scamp mopar F Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 419 NY	I wonder which one flows better Work In Progress- 71' Duster F.A.S.T.- 10.36@130 Smallblock Record Holder.

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: ademon] #385960 07/27/09 12:50 PM 07/27/09 12:50 PM
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joelson6 super stock J Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 863 Pinelands , NJ	this is great reading. unfortunately i don't have too much to add. i can't seem to locate my original throttle bracket. i have an idea to what it is so this has been a help. wish i had more pics of when i got my challenger in 1990. here is one of the few. enjoy, Greg 5378892-scan0011.jpg (135 downloads)

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: ademon] #385961 07/27/09 01:25 PM 07/27/09 01:25 PM
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autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,471 So Cal	Quote: heres what a think is a 72 and later 340/360 4 bbl throttle bracket, with the pic of a 71 style above. Would dmoore's survivor 72 340 4speed Duster have the correct bracket? This one looks like the same one for 68-70? 340's that you can buy new.... https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...e=0#Post5023423

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: autoxcuda] #385962 07/27/09 02:01 PM 07/27/09 02:01 PM
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ademon OP master A Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,906 IL, Aurora	Ya, that looks like the 68-71 style, the pic of the 72 that i listed is going by an old Year One cataloge that they say is 72 and later 340/360 4bbl, Maybe that style showed up later in the 72 year? the pic of that 72 does look to have the original PCV Valve,

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: ademon] #385963 07/27/09 02:18 PM 07/27/09 02:18 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Also notice that the 72 has had some new engine paint added, be careful what paint details you copy from it

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #385964 07/27/09 09:23 PM 07/27/09 09:23 PM
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Steve340 pro stock S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,547 Puyallup, Wa.	The 72 engine appears to be missing the idle solenoid.

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: Steve340] #385965 07/27/09 11:19 PM 07/27/09 11:19 PM
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bremotorsports master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,901 New Jersey Bada Bing	I love it when we talk small blocks. Here are some tidbits from the engine belonging my own 71 340 Cuda convertible. One-owner car, and I am second titled owner. I have conversed with him numerous times. Carb replaced, distributor replaced, radiator hoses replaced, but otherwise never apart. Vehicle build date 3/31/71. To date, in discssions with other owners, the closest I have come to the color changeover date is 3/17/71, at least for Hamtramck cars. All blue engines I have seen have paint on the wire looms (versus no wire loom paint on the orange engines), and also do NOT have the wiring harness trough on the passenger side valve cover. Both of these observations MAY ALSO play into Windsor built engines (GW) versus Mound Road built engines (GM) as stamped on the front of the block. First up: Engine color dipstick tube. 5380343-07270900004.JPG (43 downloads)

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: bremotorsports] #385966 07/27/09 11:20 PM 07/27/09 11:20 PM
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bremotorsports master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,901 New Jersey Bada Bing	V.I.N. 5380346-07270900003.JPG (36 downloads)

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: bremotorsports] #385967 07/27/09 11:21 PM 07/27/09 11:21 PM
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bremotorsports master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,901 New Jersey Bada Bing	Dipstick handle: Black 5380349-07270900000.JPG (37 downloads)

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: bremotorsports] #385968 07/27/09 11:22 PM 07/27/09 11:22 PM
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bremotorsports master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,901 New Jersey Bada Bing	Standard filter attachment (no right angle adapter). Nice and clean inside! Notice some original blue paint residue just inboard of the filter gasket mating surface. 5380356-07270900005.JPG (41 downloads) Last edited by bremotorsports; 07/28/09 12:52 AM.

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: bremotorsports] #385969 07/27/09 11:24 PM 07/27/09 11:24 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Bill your dipstick is black right? *Edit, I see you said it was, ok.

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: bremotorsports] #385970 07/27/09 11:24 PM 07/27/09 11:24 PM
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bremotorsports master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,901 New Jersey Bada Bing	Wire loom. 5380361-07270900006.JPG (39 downloads)

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: bremotorsports] #385971 07/27/09 11:26 PM 07/27/09 11:26 PM
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Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: bremotorsports] #385972 07/27/09 11:26 PM 07/27/09 11:26 PM
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bremotorsports master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,901 New Jersey Bada Bing	Manifold casting. 5380368-07270900010.JPG (40 downloads)

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: bremotorsports] #385973 07/27/09 11:27 PM 07/27/09 11:27 PM
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bremotorsports master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,901 New Jersey Bada Bing	Valve cover bolts. 5380370-07270900011.JPG (40 downloads)

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: bremotorsports] #385974 07/27/09 11:28 PM 07/27/09 11:28 PM
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bremotorsports master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,901 New Jersey Bada Bing	Intake manifold bolts. 5380374-07270900013.JPG (33 downloads)

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: bremotorsports] #385975 07/27/09 11:29 PM 07/27/09 11:29 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Bill, looks like you have the later style intake, correct?

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: bremotorsports] #385976 07/27/09 11:29 PM 07/27/09 11:29 PM
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Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: bremotorsports] #385977 07/27/09 11:30 PM 07/27/09 11:30 PM
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Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: bremotorsports] #385978 07/27/09 11:33 PM 07/27/09 11:33 PM
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Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: bremotorsports] #385979 07/27/09 11:33 PM 07/27/09 11:33 PM
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Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: bremotorsports] #385980 07/27/09 11:34 PM 07/27/09 11:34 PM
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Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: bremotorsports] #385981 07/27/09 11:36 PM 07/27/09 11:36 PM
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Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: bremotorsports] #385982 07/27/09 11:36 PM 07/27/09 11:36 PM
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Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: bremotorsports] #385983 07/27/09 11:37 PM 07/27/09 11:37 PM
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Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: bremotorsports] #385984 07/27/09 11:38 PM 07/27/09 11:38 PM
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Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: bremotorsports] #385985 07/27/09 11:39 PM 07/27/09 11:39 PM
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Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: bremotorsports] #385986 07/27/09 11:40 PM 07/27/09 11:40 PM
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Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: bremotorsports] #385987 07/27/09 11:41 PM 07/27/09 11:41 PM
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Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: bremotorsports] #385988 07/27/09 11:44 PM 07/27/09 11:44 PM
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Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: bremotorsports] #385989 07/27/09 11:49 PM 07/27/09 11:49 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Nice details Bill, thanks for posting. Do you have any other examples (from survivor orange engines?).

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: bremotorsports] #385990 07/27/09 11:55 PM 07/27/09 11:55 PM
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bremotorsports master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,901 New Jersey Bada Bing	ADDED BONUS! Here is another 71 340 Cuda convertible I have in my registry, equipped just like mine (Same FE5 body color, non-A/C with manual brakes), except this is a 4-speed. It was built one day before mine on 3/30/71. Bill Rolik 5380469-PB010030.JPG (43 downloads)

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: bremotorsports] #385991 07/27/09 11:56 PM 07/27/09 11:56 PM
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Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: bremotorsports] #385992 07/27/09 11:58 PM 07/27/09 11:58 PM
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Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #385993 07/28/09 12:11 AM 07/28/09 12:11 AM
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bremotorsports master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,901 New Jersey Bada Bing	Scott, My intake is the "Spring 71" version, with the hump on the runner. I have been made aware of a local gentleman here in NJ who supposedly has a fairly unabused 71 hardtop, which I am told has an orange engine. I will advise on that in the near future. Also, I believe that there is a gentleman who is a Moparts member, whose name I believe is Morris, who resides in FL. I believe he is an actual original owner of a 71 340 Cuda. Perhaps he will see this and respond. Other than Bill Sefton's car, of which I had received many photos directly from him a few years ago, there don't seem to be many 71's in any body style that are legitimately untouched, or close to it. BR

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: bremotorsports] #385994 07/28/09 12:28 AM 07/28/09 12:28 AM
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ragtop top fuel R Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,620 MA	Did all 71 340s, not use the right angle oil filter adaptor, or just the blue painted engines not using it? Same question about the dip stick. Did all 71 340s, have the black painted dip stick, or just the blue painted engines having the black dip stick? Thanks. Great info here. I hope this makes it to the archives.

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: ragtop] #385995 07/28/09 12:47 AM 07/28/09 12:47 AM
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bremotorsports master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,901 New Jersey Bada Bing	The right angle oil filter adapter MAY be an A-Body thing (I had that setup in my 71 340 Duster). Also, 71 E-Body 340 exhaust manifolds and exhaust pipes were different than 70. Additionally, if the distance between the torsion bars is less on an A-Body than on an E-Body, that may play into possible clearance issues as well. I have an NOS dipstick, and it has a black handle. And as far as I know, all 340's had a black handle, but I would need a bit more research to determine that for sure. I have two local AAR Cuda's to check on! BR

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: bremotorsports] #385996 07/28/09 12:57 AM 07/28/09 12:57 AM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Just spoke with Mike Ross of BEA, he has a 3-30-71 SPD Cuda 340 4 speed, 3:91 rear. Car VIN sequence #342653. It has a door VIN decal 3/71. Car has an original orange engine.

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #385997 07/28/09 01:30 AM 07/28/09 01:30 AM
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bremotorsports master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,901 New Jersey Bada Bing	Most interesting! The car I referenced in the last photos is 342575 (SPD same day, 3/30/71). One correction: It is EV2, not FE5. Sorry for the oversight. But it obviously has a blue engine. Does Mike's car have Windsor or Mound Road engine? Does the right side valve cover have a wire trough? (342575 was sold several years ago. I know who bought it, but he resold it immediately, and I do not know where it is now.) Another tidbit: In my archive photos, the door sticker on 342575 shows 4-71. My car, built a day later, shows 3-71. My engine in 344342 (3/31/71) is a Mound Road engine (Code GM on the block). Chet Greenwood informed me that his convertible, 332846 (3/19/71) originally had a blue engine. I believe he repainted it orange during restoration. Please excuse the silver paint. BR 5380606-07230800004.JPG (32 downloads) Last edited by bremotorsports; 07/28/09 10:02 AM.

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: ademon] #385998 07/28/09 07:13 AM 07/28/09 07:13 AM
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340wedge master Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,763 Myrtle Beach, SC formerly the ...	"right angle oil filter adapter MAY be an A-Body thing (I had that setup in my 71 340 Duster" My 71 Duster is a July 9th build date, blue engine and has the right angle oil adapter. 1971 Sassy Grass Green Duster 340 2006 Charger Daytona GoMango

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #385999 07/28/09 08:58 AM 07/28/09 08:58 AM
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moparo super stock Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,101 Ont, Canada	The only touch ups here were: Redone air cleaner new battery cables. other than that nothing else was changed. The valve covers were the original removed a week after purchase of the car when new they still have the original paint on them. This car is great for the fine details Scott. performancecarrestorations.com

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: moparo] #386000 07/28/09 09:48 AM 07/28/09 09:48 AM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Quote: The only touch ups here were: Redone air cleaner new battery cables. other than that nothing else was changed. The valve covers were the original removed a week after purchase of the car when new they still have the original paint on them. This car is great for the fine details Scott. moparo, Don't get me wrong, not picking on your car/engine, it looks fantastic. However that looks like blue paint overspray on the upper rad hose, back of the alternator, assosiated wiring harness, and throttle return spring? If so that isn't original.

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: moparo] #386001 07/28/09 09:52 AM 07/28/09 09:52 AM
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bremotorsports master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,901 New Jersey Bada Bing	Is it possible to post the photos? Bill Rolik

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: bremotorsports] #386002 07/28/09 10:08 AM 07/28/09 10:08 AM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Bill, the photos in question are of a survivor 1972 340 engine (yellow Duster detailed in a survivor thread here on Moparts) there are a few pics on page 2 of this thread. *BTW bill, I have'nt gotten anymore info on Mikes 71 Cuda engine yet.

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #386003 07/28/09 11:03 AM 07/28/09 11:03 AM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Quote: Another angle, this is a column shift automatic car SPD first week of October 1970 at the Hamtramck plant This engine in this picture also appears to have been manipulated a bit. Notice the by pass hose. The paint density is not consistent with the intake port that it is directly connected to. It shows an impossible paint pattern for two pieces that were supposedly painted together. The hose has a thin over spray look to it while the intake is heavily covered. Paint on rubber does not wear off or thin out over time. It would have either flaked or chipped off. The picture of the blue survivor engine that is posted earlier in this thread conveys the correct look that the hose would have exhibited if it was painted on the engine. -Clamps have been changed however.- Last edited by Boundlez; 07/28/09 11:09 AM.

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #386004 07/28/09 11:08 AM 07/28/09 11:08 AM
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ademon OP master A Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,906 IL, Aurora	Great info Bill, Were you ever able to dig up any info reguarding plant work stopage or strikes at the Winsdor plant that may shed light on some orange 340 going into car after the blue swich over date? After we talked about my 4/2/71 spd Demon 340, (orange engine with a Asy date of 11/16/70) I found out the history from new to about 1979 on my Demon, engine was always orange. Thanks Mike 5381063-January09.jpg (42 downloads)

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: ademon] #386005 07/28/09 12:47 PM 07/28/09 12:47 PM
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AdamR master A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,978 Bethel Ct	What spots would the KV stamped hose have been used on orginally ? Also, what are the correct clamps for the 3 port breather and the brake booster ? Another thing I have been wondering about. Exhaust manifolds, Since they were bolted to the motor prior to painting, Wouldnt they be pretty much entirely covered with paint instead of the slightly over sprayed look most people believe is correct ? I know If I were painting them at the factory I wouldnt bother trying to keep the paint off of them. I would just cover them completely. Last edited by AdamR; 07/28/09 04:03 PM.

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: AdamR] #386006 07/28/09 05:19 PM 07/28/09 05:19 PM
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chrisf master C Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,948 British Columbia	how about exhaust manifold bolts guys? any pics?

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: bremotorsports] #386007 07/28/09 06:54 PM 07/28/09 06:54 PM
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Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #386008 07/28/09 07:36 PM 07/28/09 07:36 PM
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moparo super stock Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,101 Ont, Canada	moparo, Don't get me wrong, not picking on your car/engine, it looks fantastic. However that looks like blue paint overspray on the upper rad hose, back of the alternator, assosiated wiring harness, and throttle return spring? If so that isn't original. Scott. I do not own that car. When did you see that car anyway? performancecarrestorations.com

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: moparo] #386009 07/28/09 07:54 PM 07/28/09 07:54 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Moparo, I've only seen pics of it.

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #386010 07/28/09 08:10 PM 07/28/09 08:10 PM
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Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #386011 07/28/09 08:36 PM 07/28/09 08:36 PM
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340wedge master Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,763 Myrtle Beach, SC formerly the ...	Scott, the picture Adam posted had the earlier intake with the little hump on the back side, your pics show the "spring" intake having the hump. My car is a late build July 9th and has that hump, is this correct for my car? 1971 Sassy Grass Green Duster 340 2006 Charger Daytona GoMango

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: 340wedge] #386012 07/28/09 09:02 PM 07/28/09 09:02 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Not sure I follow you but here's the deal. The "hump" is the spring intake (cast in Jan 71 or so, first used in march or so of 1971 or so) I've never seen an original "Hump" intake painted any other color but blue and I've never seen one cast before January or 71.

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: bremotorsports] #386013 07/28/09 09:22 PM 07/28/09 09:22 PM
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FJ5_Fish pro stock Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,294 Ontario, Canada	Besides the Anchor head markings I have seen a bunch with "E". Intake and valve covers.

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #386014 07/28/09 09:26 PM 07/28/09 09:26 PM
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Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #386015 07/28/09 09:26 PM 07/28/09 09:26 PM
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340wedge master Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,763 Myrtle Beach, SC formerly the ...	Thanks Scott , Guess my question was confusing,, but you answered it, my engine is blue and has the hump. From an earlier post I thought the picture of the hump stated it was cast in January and the one without in May, but must have been May of 1970, and the hump in January of 1971. Whew!... 1971 Sassy Grass Green Duster 340 2006 Charger Daytona GoMango

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: moparo] #386016 07/28/09 09:31 PM 07/28/09 09:31 PM
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Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: FJ5_Fish] #386017 07/28/09 09:35 PM 07/28/09 09:35 PM
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Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: AdamR] #386018 07/29/09 06:14 PM 07/29/09 06:14 PM
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AdamR master A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,978 Bethel Ct	Quote: What spots would the KV stamped hose have been used on orginally ? Also, what are the correct clamps for the 3 port breather and the brake booster ? Another thing I have been wondering about. Exhaust manifolds, Since they were bolted to the motor prior to painting, Wouldnt they be pretty much entirely covered with paint instead of the slightly over sprayed look most people believe is correct ? I know If I were painting them at the factory I wouldnt bother trying to keep the paint off of them. I would just cover them completely. anyone ?

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: AdamR] #386019 07/29/09 08:13 PM 07/29/09 08:13 PM
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chrisf master C Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,948 British Columbia	this is a 71 318 cover i have. 5384499-IMG_0002_2.JPG (48 downloads)

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: chrisf] #386020 07/29/09 08:15 PM 07/29/09 08:15 PM
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Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: chrisf] #386021 07/30/09 06:44 AM 07/30/09 06:44 AM
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AdamR master A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,978 Bethel Ct	Quote: this is a 71 318 cover i have. Thats what I used with a piece of KV hose for the vent line to the apron which I believe had a crimpped clamp on the oher end originally. What about the line to the carb ? Same clamps ?

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: chrisf] #386022 07/30/09 08:33 AM 07/30/09 08:33 AM
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Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: bremotorsports] #386023 07/30/09 08:36 AM 07/30/09 08:36 AM
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bremotorsports master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,901 New Jersey Bada Bing	71 "short" manifold bolts. Very hard to see, but there is a capital letter A in the center, as well as strike marks at 12, 4, and 8 o'clock. 5385512-07290900001.JPG (28 downloads)

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: bremotorsports] #386024 07/30/09 08:40 AM 07/30/09 08:40 AM
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bremotorsports master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,901 New Jersey Bada Bing	71 manifold-to-pipe bolts. Again, very hard to see, but at the center is a capital letter M with strike marks at 10, 2, and 6 o'clock. On this engine, the special bolt lock clips were never installed. Bill Rolik 5385514-07290900003.JPG (53 downloads)

Re: Detailed stock 71 340 engine pics needed [Re: ademon] #386025 07/30/09 08:58 AM 07/30/09 08:58 AM
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bremotorsports master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,901 New Jersey Bada Bing	Quote: Great info Bill, Were you ever able to dig up any info reguarding plant work stopage or strikes at the Winsdor plant that may shed light on some orange 340 going into car after the blue swich over date? After we talked about my 4/2/71 spd Demon 340, (orange engine with a Asy date of 11/16/70) I found out the history from new to about 1979 on my Demon, engine was always orange. Thanks Mike Mike, You may want to contact Dave Wise at MMC Detroit regarding plant work stoppages. 248-393-3970. Bill Rolik

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