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Re: Hologen headlamp conversion
[Re: Dougsmopars]
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07/16/09 04:52 PM
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Best thing to do to start is go with a relay set up so you will at least get battery voltage at the headlight.
80% of the headlights sold now are at least halogen over the counter. If you want to step up from that you can go to a Hella headlamp setup.
Allen
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Re: Hologen headlamp conversion
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07/16/09 05:17 PM
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If you want "stock looking" what's wrong with halogen sealed beams?
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Re: Hologen headlamp conversion
[Re: Dougsmopars]
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07/16/09 09:04 PM
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Hologen sealed beams are not as bright as the newer hologen lights.
I think a lot of the difference is in your minds
It depends on the wattage of whatever "hologen lights" you are talking about, but the REALLY big thing is that these old girls never had decent SIZED wiring to begin with. Putting lamp relays out under the hood with larger wire feeds helps immensely
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Re: Hologen headlamp conversion
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07/17/09 12:16 AM
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Sealed beam headlamps and headlamp housings which take a replaceable bulb (such as an H4) are totally different. Do you want more light, more brightness, or a better light pattern? I suggest you check out the info at www.rallylights.com regarding light patterns and the differences in U.S. and European code conversion headlamps.
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Re: Hologen headlamp conversion
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07/17/09 10:35 PM
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I checked out that link. Didn't find any info on light patterns. I'm looking for a brighter, whiter light. And yes i know there different.
Look here: http://www.rallylights.com/hella/Beams.aspx
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Orignal question was who makes a good conversion headlamp.
Hella makes an excellent conversion headlamp. I've used Hella E-code conversion lamps on three of my vehicles which previously used sealed beam halogen bulbs and highly recommend them to everyone. 
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Re: Hologen headlamp conversion
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07/18/09 06:01 PM
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i wired-up my own with relays and fuses from radio shack for about $15 (i have wire already) for use with the halogen sealed beams in my car...or you can spend about $100 for a harness already made
'71 Satellite Sebring 440
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Re: Hologen headlamp conversion
[Re: LimeliteAero]
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07/19/09 11:49 AM
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Easy power tap would be the starter relay.
Allen
Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first.
Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.
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Re: Hologen headlamp conversion
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07/19/09 12:08 PM
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the house on the left.
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for the guys who have done the conversion, How did you get your power to the relays? I want to maintain as close to factory look as I can. I want to conceal the conversion as much as possible.
the paionless site says to gain power from the battery. How is that done? right from the battery or not?
TIA!
if ya want it to look stock as possible i would hide the relays under the battery tray and just get main power from the starter relay
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Re: Hologen headlamp conversion
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07/19/09 03:52 PM
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I checked out that link. Didn't find any info on light patterns. I'm looking for a brighter, whiter light. And yes i know there different.
Look here: http://www.rallylights.com/hella/Beams.aspx
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Orignal question was who makes a good conversion headlamp.
Hella makes an excellent conversion headlamp. I've used Hella E-code conversion lamps on three of my vehicles which previously used sealed beam halogen bulbs and highly recommend them to everyone.
are these the lights your talking about?
http://www.autobahnpower.com/products.asp?recnumber=422
Yes they are.
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Re: Hologen headlamp conversion
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07/19/09 04:22 PM
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Keep in mind wire has voltage drop, the higher the current the more voltage drop for a given wire diameter per foot. A four headlamp Hella system with standard sized bulbs(2 55/60 watt H4s and 2 60watt H1s), on high beam will pull about 17amps of total current, considerably less voltage drop on a 12ga wire than on a 16ga.
H4 and H1 bulbs are available in wattages that will simply melt 16 gauge wiring.
Yikes! 
What gauge wire would you recommend, or what wattage should we limit ourselves to if keeping the 16 gauge wire? Would keeping the 16 gauge wire defeat the purpose?
Tav
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Re: Hologen headlamp conversion
[Re: cataclysm80]
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07/19/09 05:14 PM
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What gauge wire would you recommend, or what wattage should we limit ourselves to if keeping the 16 gauge wire? Would keeping the 16 gauge wire defeat the purpose?
IMO, 12ga. minimum on the secondary side of the relays.
Defeat the purpose? Even if you stick with the 16ga wiring the relays are a must for this conversion.
From a previous thread on this subject,
"The sealed beam headlamps used on these cars originally were at best 15-20watts. On a four headlamp car, that is about 3amps for the low beams and roughly 8 amps on all four high beams. All this current passes through the headlight switch, dimmer switch, and the bulkhead connector using 16ga. wiring. Upgrading to a four lamp system with 55/60 watt low beam H4s and 55 watt H1 high beams will bring that current draw to about 8amps on low beam and upwards of 17amps with all four high beams burning. The original 40-yearold switches, wiring and connectors will not last long at that rate. Do yourself a favor and install the relays and run at least 12ga. wires on the secondary side."
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