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az bee, do you hva a m-code a-body?

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he has one better , the M code B BODY

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it all depends if hurst just added the engine with the trans still in the car or they got engine and trans together from the factory. and by the way 69 a12s where just stock 440s with a good intake and carbs 70 got all the good stuff in the engine. but i stiil like em

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69 A12's were faster!

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it all depends if hurst just added the engine with the trans still in the car or they got engine and trans together from the factory. and by the way 69 a12s where just stock 440s with a good intake and carbs 70 got all the good stuff in the engine. but i stiil like em

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70 got all the GOOD stuff ??? The heavy rods SLOWED the 70 down ...

Line up a 69 against a 70 and let the azz kickin' BEGIN ....

When it comes to 6pk cars , A12's are KING of the MOUNTAIN.

Where's Rhinodart , he can put this one to rest .

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I'm looking at the Chrysler parts manual. All the 383HP/440HP B Body and bigger cars came with the 093. The Valiant/Barracuda/Dart with 383 4 BBL came with an 091 in them. It was considered an A727B as was the 093 trans. They do not show a 383HP or 440HP listing for an A Body? Only a 383 4 BBL. They just say that the Satellite/Coronet w/383HP and 440HP eng, the Chrysler w/440 HP and the Ply/Dodge except SW w/440 and HP engines had the A727B p/n 2892093. It seems like the M code should have had an 093 in it because it was behind a 440HP?

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it all depends if hurst just added the engine with the trans still in the car or they got engine and trans together from the factory. and by the way 69 a12s where just stock 440s with a good intake and carbs 70 got all the good stuff in the engine. but i stiil like em

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70 got all the GOOD stuff ??? The heavy rods SLOWED the 70 down ...

Line up a 69 against a 70 and let the azz kickin' BEGIN ....

When it comes to 6pk cars , A12's are KING of the MOUNTAIN.

Where's Rhinodart , he can put this one to rest .

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70 didnt even get a fresh air hood or 4.10 Dana as standard equipment unless it was a 4 speed, also the 69 hood/aircleaner blew the 70 away as far as CFM to the carbs. Also a 69 M code B body is way faster than an M code A body.

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I'm looking at the Chrysler parts manual. All the 383HP/440HP B Body and bigger cars came with the 093. The Valiant/Barracuda/Dart with 383 4 BBL came with an 091 in them. It was considered an A727B as was the 093 trans. They do not show a 383HP or 440HP listing for an A Body? Only a 383 4 BBL. They just say that the Satellite/Coronet w/383HP and 440HP eng, the Chrysler w/440 HP and the Ply/Dodge except SW w/440 and HP engines had the A727B p/n 2892093. It seems like the M code should have had an 093 in it because it was behind a 440HP?

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John, the 091 trans is for 383 4 bbl A/C cars, since M code A bodies cannot have A/C it would not have that trans in it even if the car started out as a 383 car and the 440 was put in by an outside vendor

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I'm looking at the Chrysler parts manual. All the 383HP/440HP B Body and bigger cars came with the 093. The Valiant/Barracuda/Dart with 383 4 BBL came with an 091 in them. It was considered an A727B as was the 093 trans. They do not show a 383HP or 440HP listing for an A Body? Only a 383 4 BBL. They just say that the Satellite/Coronet w/383HP and 440HP eng, the Chrysler w/440 HP and the Ply/Dodge except SW w/440 and HP engines had the A727B p/n 2892093. It seems like the M code should have had an 093 in it because it was behind a 440HP?

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John, the 091 trans is for 383 4 bbl A/C cars, since M code A bodies cannot have A/C it would not have that trans in it even if the car started out as a 383 car and the 440 was put in by an outside vendor

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sorry you are wrong about that part because they couldn't bring the car down over the engine on the assembly line (to wide) so they farmed it out to the guys that built the 68 hemi cars. i have alot of paper on this

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Guys, i have started a '69 M-code A-body 40th reunion at Carlisle in July. Watch carlisleevents.com soon for a sign up to bring your car!! Other ads maybe on this site, other mopar websites and 3 of the 4 mopars mags. Any M-code A-bodies can email me at mcodecuda@yahoo.com for more info and a invite/informational letter mailed to you!! HELP SPREAD THE WORD!!!!! Dave

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well i did generate some interest on these cars didn't i. tell me how to load an attachment,i scaned the paper,put in the pc then opened a post,it said add a file,i put it in the box ,came up a bunch of letters and numbers,is this rite? not sure what will come out. if this is corect i'll post the paperwork i have on who did the change. i'll look for the 093 case now

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as long as it's not to big a file it will load .

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093 trans, and B-Bodies are just fat, like your ol' lady...

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And A bodies are just tire SMOKERS, like that tramp at the bar you hang out at.

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093 trans, and B-Bodies are just fat, like your ol' lady...

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And A bodies are just tire SMOKERS, like that tramp at the bar you hang out at.

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Yea,but the bar tramps are a lot more fun than the fat ole' lady you left at home.

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093 trans, and B-Bodies are just fat, like your ol' lady...

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And A bodies are just tire SMOKERS, like that tramp at the bar you hang out at.

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Yea,but the bar tramps are a lot more fun than the fat ole' lady you left at home.

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heres the paper i have on where m-code a-bodys where built, there are some errors (trans number for one)

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one more thing, do your cars have the wire clip on the steering conector at the box? this clip was put on all 440 installs because the engine was put down in with manifolds installed so the column was removed then put back and the clip held the joint together better then just bending those little tabs.i was at the last reunion and all the 440 cars had them. and who do you think made that mount? not chrysler

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do your cars have the wire clip on the steering conector at the box? this clip was put on all 440 installs because the engine was put down in with manifolds installed so the column was removed then put back and the clip held the joint together better then just bending those little tabs.i was at the last reunion and all the 440 cars had them. and who do you think made that mount? not chrysler

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I can take a pic if needed since my car is apart

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Here ya go Dave.

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Dan,thanks! My car has it! As for the last poster, my car has 6759 original miles and the rubber seal IS orange!!!!! Back in '88-'89 when my car was put back to street duty it only had 3291 miles and i HIGHLY dought it was changed!!! My car was first REGISTERED for the street in April '89.I could ask that person if needed! Dave

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Dan,thanks! My car has it! As for the last poster, my car has 6759 original miles and the rubber seal IS orange!!!!! Back in '88-'89 when my car was put back to street duty it only had 3291 miles and i HIGHLY dought it was changed!!! My car was first REGISTERED for the street in April '89. Sold to a private collector in Dec. '89 never to be registered or driven for 17 years!!!!! Then i bought it in Nov '06!! http://www.andy440.com/com_July_2008.htm Yes i have changed the RED pie tin to the correct ORANGE! Dave

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well i'm back with some nagging questions that need clearing up. 1, why did the cars come down the line with 383s on the vin tag then have to change, why didn't it just start as a 440? it wasn't like they didn't know they where making them. my fender tag has the 383 number. 2, that wire clips only purpose is to hold that joint lid on,leads me to think it was removed after assembly for some reason. i haven't seen them on any other car in these numbers. any ideas

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"Package cars" as in this case the 1969 A13 Dart/Cuda and the A12 "Package" '69 B-body RM, WM models were just that an optional "Package" that was ADDED to a base model. Product planning (PP) made a list of additions ("Package" contents) and deletions (Items not necessarily in the "Package" but not used like hub caps or wheel covers on the A12's ) and then PP got together with the "Fleet Engineering" (FE) department and determined when and what could be done on the normal production line. They (FE) would set a best target date for the start of production (302-A13, 329/426-A12) knowing not all planned units could be built in one day or on those dates. If space (canceled other car orders) became available then Fleet Engineering slotted package cars into those available openings. With the A12 cars the package was added to a 383 base RM/WM car so that some of the base items were in place at Body-in-White and when it came to installing the 383 the broadcast sheet dictated the deletion of the 383 and the addition of the 440's.

The PP/FE addition and deletion list pretty much had every nut, bolt, screw, washer, and items that was added or deleted and anything that couldn't be put on during normal assembly was left up to Fleet Engineering to figure out how to get done. In the case of the A12's that seemed to be the intake, carbs, hood and hood pins. With the A13's IMO there wouldn't be much that couldn't be done on the standard assembly line?


BTW, I thought the standard differential for the A13 was an 8-3/4 3.55:1............and the reason for only the 3.91: 8-3/4 and no 4-speed trans was there wasn't a Dana narrow enough to fit the '69 A-body???

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hey dave my coupler has the black gasket, no rust or scale on joint, just grease and dirt. wish we had a time machine

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Jim, so you believe that 640 M-code Darts were built? There is question that maybe only the same number Darts were built as 'cudas, about 360??? BUT i believe that there needed to be 1000 cars produced to compete in factory super stock class. Therefore 640 Darts and 360 'cudas equals the 1000 needed??

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That is the 64K question. It is kinda hard to believe that many were built, did most get used up? I have seen many more 383 cars, but I have also seen many 440 cars coming out of the woodworks lately. I checked a B5 Blue and a Bronze M code Dart and they both had 093 trans! I have a 69 Cuda fastback and coupe I can look at also, the coupe was never modified though thoroughly rusted. I cannot find the paperwork I had on the clip, but I don't believe it was available in 69, I can barely remember it came out later, but need to find the paperwork.