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trans case number on 69 cuda m-code cars #244557
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any guys or gals with m-code 69 cuda or darts cars that has the original trans so i can get the right number? i have two diferent # 2892093 or the one that came in a 69 383 cuda ,2892091. I don't know if they kept the trans and added the engine or engine trans as a package.

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the 093 is correct, the 091 is for a 383 4bbl with A/C


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az bee, do you hva a m-code a-body?

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The m code a body used the 093 trans .

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az bee, do you hva a m-code a-body?




he has one better , the M code B BODY

Re: trans case number on 69 cuda m-code cars [Re: cudaman1969] #244562
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I'm looking at the Chrysler parts manual. All the 383HP/440HP B Body and bigger cars came with the 093. The Valiant/Barracuda/Dart with 383 4 BBL came with an 091 in them. It was considered an A727B as was the 093 trans. They do not show a 383HP or 440HP listing for an A Body? Only a 383 4 BBL. They just say that the Satellite/Coronet w/383HP and 440HP eng, the Chrysler w/440 HP and the Ply/Dodge except SW w/440 and HP engines had the A727B p/n 2892093. It seems like the M code should have had an 093 in it because it was behind a 440HP?

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it all depends if hurst just added the engine with the trans still in the car or they got engine and trans together from the factory. and by the way 69 a12s where just stock 440s with a good intake and carbs 70 got all the good stuff in the engine. but i stiil like em

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1969 M-code a-bodies were assembly line built at Hamtramck, including drivetrain.

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sorry you are wrong about that part because they couldn't bring the car down over the engine on the assembly line (to wide) so they farmed it out to the guys that built the 68 hemi cars. i have alot of paper on this

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it all depends if hurst just added the engine with the trans still in the car or they got engine and trans together from the factory. and by the way 69 a12s where just stock 440s with a good intake and carbs 70 got all the good stuff in the engine. but i stiil like em




69 A12's were faster!

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it all depends if hurst just added the engine with the trans still in the car or they got engine and trans together from the factory. and by the way 69 a12s where just stock 440s with a good intake and carbs 70 got all the good stuff in the engine. but i stiil like em




70 got all the GOOD stuff ??? The heavy rods SLOWED the 70 down ...

Line up a 69 against a 70 and let the azz kickin' BEGIN ....

When it comes to 6pk cars , A12's are KING of the MOUNTAIN.

Where's Rhinodart , he can put this one to rest .

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I'm looking at the Chrysler parts manual. All the 383HP/440HP B Body and bigger cars came with the 093. The Valiant/Barracuda/Dart with 383 4 BBL came with an 091 in them. It was considered an A727B as was the 093 trans. They do not show a 383HP or 440HP listing for an A Body? Only a 383 4 BBL. They just say that the Satellite/Coronet w/383HP and 440HP eng, the Chrysler w/440 HP and the Ply/Dodge except SW w/440 and HP engines had the A727B p/n 2892093. It seems like the M code should have had an 093 in it because it was behind a 440HP?




John, the 091 trans is for 383 4 bbl A/C cars, since M code A bodies cannot have A/C it would not have that trans in it even if the car started out as a 383 car and the 440 was put in by an outside vendor


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it all depends if hurst just added the engine with the trans still in the car or they got engine and trans together from the factory. and by the way 69 a12s where just stock 440s with a good intake and carbs 70 got all the good stuff in the engine. but i stiil like em




70 got all the GOOD stuff ??? The heavy rods SLOWED the 70 down ...

Line up a 69 against a 70 and let the azz kickin' BEGIN ....

When it comes to 6pk cars , A12's are KING of the MOUNTAIN.

Where's Rhinodart , he can put this one to rest .




70 didnt even get a fresh air hood or 4.10 Dana as standard equipment unless it was a 4 speed, also the 69 hood/aircleaner blew the 70 away as far as CFM to the carbs. Also a 69 M code B body is way faster than an M code A body.


69.5 A12 Bee, first purchased in 1976, car 169 on registry 69 Coronet R/T 440/4 spd 69 Coronet 500 Conv H code 383 4bbl/auto 37 Plymouth PU Find your spot on earth and ride it.
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I'm looking at the Chrysler parts manual. All the 383HP/440HP B Body and bigger cars came with the 093. The Valiant/Barracuda/Dart with 383 4 BBL came with an 091 in them. It was considered an A727B as was the 093 trans. They do not show a 383HP or 440HP listing for an A Body? Only a 383 4 BBL. They just say that the Satellite/Coronet w/383HP and 440HP eng, the Chrysler w/440 HP and the Ply/Dodge except SW w/440 and HP engines had the A727B p/n 2892093. It seems like the M code should have had an 093 in it because it was behind a 440HP?




John, the 091 trans is for 383 4 bbl A/C cars, since M code A bodies cannot have A/C it would not have that trans in it even if the car started out as a 383 car and the 440 was put in by an outside vendor






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I'm looking at the Chrysler parts manual. All the 383HP/440HP B Body and bigger cars came with the 093. The Valiant/Barracuda/Dart with 383 4 BBL came with an 091 in them. It was considered an A727B as was the 093 trans. They do not show a 383HP or 440HP listing for an A Body? Only a 383 4 BBL. They just say that the Satellite/Coronet w/383HP and 440HP eng, the Chrysler w/440 HP and the Ply/Dodge except SW w/440 and HP engines had the A727B p/n 2892093. It seems like the M code should have had an 093 in it because it was behind a 440HP?




John, the 091 trans is for 383 4 bbl A/C cars, since M code A bodies cannot have A/C it would not have that trans in it even if the car started out as a 383 car and the 440 was put in by an outside vendor










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^ A body M-codes listed E63 on the fender tags, yet we know that they were removed or never installed in place of the 440's. I'm sure that was the case with the 091 trans, which were replaced by 093.

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sorry you are wrong about that part because they couldn't bring the car down over the engine on the assembly line (to wide) so they farmed it out to the guys that built the 68 hemi cars. i have alot of paper on this


I've read many articles regarding who did put the motor/trans into the M-code A bodies and the general consensus was that ma Mopar did it and not Hurst-Campbell like first reported.I would like to see copies of the paperwork you have on this.When I restored my 69 GTS M-code I installed the motor w/exhaust manifolds,trans,and k-frame from the bottom,it does fit.Now I don't have the build sheet for my car,but it is matching #'s and it has an 093 trans in it,with a sbd of 3-29. John.


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Guys, i have started a '69 M-code A-body 40th reunion at Carlisle in July. Watch carlisleevents.com soon for a sign up to bring your car!! Other ads maybe on this site, other mopar websites and 3 of the 4 mopars mags. Any M-code A-bodies can email me at mcodecuda@yahoo.com for more info and a invite/informational letter mailed to you!! I'm also in the process of reproducing the right side exhaust spacer that goes inbetween the manifold and head pipe! HELP SPREAD THE WORD!!!!! Dave

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I'm the CARETAKER of Weinstats '69 440 'cuda registry and have 104 of the 360 cars to date. 84 fastbacks/20 coupes. Always looking for new(REAL M-code) '69 440 'cudas to add to the registry so drop me a note if any are found or known. This isn't a publicly released registry. Thanks, Dave
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Guys, i have started a '69 M-code A-body 40th reunion at Carlisle in July. Watch carlisleevents.com soon for a sign up to bring your car!! Other ads maybe on this site, other mopar websites and 3 of the 4 mopars mags. Any M-code A-bodies can email me at mcodecuda@yahoo.com for more info and a invite/informational letter mailed to you!! HELP SPREAD THE WORD!!!!! Dave


Dave count me in,I'll be there with my car.Who else? John.


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