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edelbrock victor ? #226914 02/16/09 06:29 PM 02/16/09 06:29 PM
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moparmafia OP mopar M Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 568 Ky	has anyone ran the victors yet? i am trying to decide if i want the 440-1, sr's or the victors. i dont know anyone that has run a set but i had heard before these were going to be the best bang for the buck. is it true they can flow 400 cfm? from all the heads out there the sr still seems the best for the money.any info would be greatly appreciated.

Re: edelbrock victor ? [Re: moparmafia] #226915 02/16/09 06:36 PM 02/16/09 06:36 PM
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BDS871Cuda top fuel B Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,949 land of 10,000______'s	I can tell you right now Victors and Indy 440-1's will not go 400. Looks like stealth's are the best bang for the buck. I hear they go 320-330 range. Not to bad for $1900. Snap your neck, mega G-force launch, is all I want!

Re: edelbrock victor ? [Re: BDS871Cuda] #226916 02/16/09 06:52 PM 02/16/09 06:52 PM
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Kam*Kuda master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,243 Canada	I don't think the stealth heads are in the same league as the victors or SR's I hear good things about the voctors but have not run them. I am looking at the EZ so I do not have to get other rocker arms 1970 Barracuda Convertible 1968 Satellite Street Strip car 1654.5 Mustang 1955 Land Rover

Re: edelbrock victor ? [Re: moparmafia] #226917 02/16/09 07:23 PM 02/16/09 07:23 PM
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70blackfish master 7 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,152 SO. CAL.	I have em with porting they will go 350 but you have to buy offset intake rocker arms, no way will the stealths flow that, there in the 275 out of the box. like the rpm. I think stock 906's were around 225cfm

Re: edelbrock victor ? [Re: 70blackfish] #226918 02/16/09 07:42 PM 02/16/09 07:42 PM
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Defbob master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,619 Norwich CT USA	I would use the Victors long before using Indy

Re: edelbrock victor ? [Re: moparmafia] #226919 02/16/09 07:44 PM 02/16/09 07:44 PM
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AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,050 Oregon	How much power are you trying to make and what is the shortblock? The Victor heads are okay but I'm not so sure they are a great bang for the buck by the time you add up the extras. Personally I think the CNC ported Indy EZ heads are probably the best bet for most guys. They'll make 800 hp on a 500 inch shortblock and you don't need a special header or expensive offset rocker arms.

Re: edelbrock victor ? [Re: AndyF] #226920 02/16/09 07:59 PM 02/16/09 07:59 PM
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moparmafia OP mopar M Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 568 Ky	i am going with a 400 stroked to 500 with 440 source kit. i want to make the most power i can and if the victors are quite a bit more hp than sr's then i would go with them. i havent seen any information on a fully ported set of victors to help make up my mind.

Re: edelbrock victor ? [Re: moparmafia] #226921 02/16/09 08:01 PM 02/16/09 08:01 PM
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70blackfish master 7 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,152 SO. CAL.	you dont need 400 cfm

Re: edelbrock victor ? [Re: moparmafia] #226922 02/16/09 08:04 PM 02/16/09 08:04 PM
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AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,050 Oregon	I don't understand your statement about making the most power you can. What does that mean? Put a blower and run nitro if you want to make power. Since you're using a production block you're limited to something in the 700-800 hp range. The Indy EZ heads can easily make that kind of power and you won't have to mess around with offset rocker arms or raised port headers. There is this book you need to read . . . Last edited by AndyF; 02/16/09 09:46 PM.

Re: edelbrock victor ? [Re: AndyF] #226923 02/16/09 08:08 PM 02/16/09 08:08 PM
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G_bob master G Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,616 Riverside, Ca	Check back in a week or so. We'll all know then what the victors make on my 505 build. Victor 505 build <--- Click here

Re: edelbrock victor ? [Re: AndyF] #226924 02/16/09 08:10 PM 02/16/09 08:10 PM
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moparmafia OP mopar M Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 568 Ky	of course everyone wants to make the most power they can. that was just a general statement, i thought you could understand that. ok i will try this again. i want to make the most power i can make with a 400 block stroked to 500. so what head would you use? victor, -1, or sr. or ?

Re: edelbrock victor ? [Re: moparmafia] #226925 02/16/09 08:29 PM 02/16/09 08:29 PM
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B1Fish540 master Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,840 Flint, Michigan	Quote: of course everyone wants to make the most power they can. that was just a general statement, i thought you could understand that. ok i will try this again. i want to make the most power i can make with a 400 block stroked to 500. so what head would you use? victor, -1, or sr. or ? I understood what you meant. You want to make the most power you can with those choice of heads. Its sort of a toss up. All three flow virtually the same..fully ported. But the best one out of the box has been the Victor. But I think you are talking about fully ported flow which= most horsepower. So it comes down to your personal choice. Each of these heads is a slightly different flavor of the same dish. The SR has better exhaust flow than the EZ. The Victor uses a bigger intake valve and should make slightly more power than either of those. So, of the heads you mentioned, IMHO, the Victor and the 440-1 would make the most power. Do you lke Edlebrock or ICH, thats pretty much the choice you will have to make.

Re: edelbrock victor ? [Re: moparmafia] #226926 02/16/09 08:51 PM 02/16/09 08:51 PM
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AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,050 Oregon	If you want to make a lot of power with a low deck motor then run B1 heads. The B1 heads are designed for low decks and they'll make a lot more power than Victor heads.

Re: edelbrock victor ? [Re: AndyF] #226927 02/16/09 09:03 PM 02/16/09 09:03 PM
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moparmafia OP mopar M Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 568 Ky	who should i contact about b1 heads and what stroker kit will i have to buy? doesn't the b1 heads use different pistons, rockers and headers? if the sr's cnc ported can make 800 hp what would the b1 heads make?

Re: edelbrock victor ? [Re: moparmafia] #226928 02/16/09 09:16 PM 02/16/09 09:16 PM
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Defbob master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,619 Norwich CT USA	Quote: If you want to make a lot of power with a low deck motor then run B1 heads. The B1 heads are designed for low decks and they'll make a lot more power than Victor heads. http://www.b1heads.com/

Re: edelbrock victor ? [Re: moparmafia] #226929 02/16/09 09:26 PM 02/16/09 09:26 PM
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B1Fish540 master Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,840 Flint, Michigan	Quote: who should i contact about b1 heads and what stroker kit will i have to buy? doesn't the b1 heads use different pistons, rockers and headers? if the sr's cnc ported can make 800 hp what would the b1 heads make? yes. Original B1s flow about 415 cfm. 900 hp is pretty easy. You may end up spending $1000 extra over the 440-1/Intake package for the B1 Package, though. Last edited by Fish540; 02/16/09 09:30 PM.

Re: edelbrock victor ? [Re: Defbob] #226930 02/16/09 09:26 PM 02/16/09 09:26 PM
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Defbob master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,619 Norwich CT USA	The B1's are my personal favorite Wedge head. They are the last heads you'd ever need. period and they look cool with the matching intake (Best Machines motor)

Re: edelbrock victor ? [Re: moparmafia] #226931 02/16/09 09:34 PM 02/16/09 09:34 PM
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AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,050 Oregon	Quote: who should i contact about b1 heads and what stroker kit will i have to buy? doesn't the b1 heads use different pistons, rockers and headers? if the sr's cnc ported can make 800 hp what would the b1 heads make? http://b1heads.com/

Re: edelbrock victor ? [Re: moparmafia] #226932 02/17/09 08:46 AM 02/17/09 08:46 AM
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QWK_ENUF top fuel Q Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,442 LOWELL IN	https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...&PHPSESSID= i like mine i just used the offset intakes from hughes like $30 each clearanceing the head for pushrod was simple and easy mine are out the box best of 10.13@130 with no tuning in 3235 lbs duster WAXER

Re: edelbrock victor ? [Re: QWK_ENUF] #226933 02/17/09 10:41 AM 02/17/09 10:41 AM
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Harley super stock H Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 996 Queens, New York	Dose the B1-BS head have a raised exhaust port like the Indy-SR head?

Re: edelbrock victor ? [Re: Harley] #226934 02/17/09 11:41 AM 02/17/09 11:41 AM
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Bob_Coomer master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 6,293 Rock Springs	I gotta agree with the B1 stuff. The 440-1;s would be a distant second. I went with the 440-1's maxed out on power, had about as much money in to them as B1's would have been. And probably 50-100HP less. Its been proven that the B1 stuff runs pretty good with just some prep work, no need to go all out. Yes its more money, but how much money will you spend later, changing the whole combo? [color:"red"]65 Hemi Belvedere coming soon [/color] [color:"#00FF00"]557" Indy engine 1.07 60ft 144mph in the 8th 2100 lbs package [/color]

Re: edelbrock victor ? [Re: Bob_Coomer] #226935 02/17/09 11:54 AM 02/17/09 11:54 AM
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rowin4 master Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 6,257 gulfport, ms, west mi	Don't you have to buy special pistons to run b-1's ? it's ok to butt heads, just don't do it with a butthead

Re: edelbrock victor ? [Re: moparmafia] #226936 02/17/09 11:55 AM 02/17/09 11:55 AM
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506RR super stock 5 Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 977 Colorado	If you don't have headers, or rockers yet, then I would go with the 440-1's or the Victors. That way you have room to grow with them in the future. Either head is capable of making quite a bit more power than a stock block can handle. If you already have headers for a stock port location and standard roller rockers, then a set of EZ heads CNC'd by Jeff at Modern would be the hot ticket like AndyF said. I have a set of EZ heads and a set of SR heads that have been CNC'd by Jeff, and both flow right at 350 cfm on the intakes, but the SR's outflow the EZ's on the exhaust by about 20-30 cfm.

Re: edelbrock victor ? [Re: 506RR] #226937 02/17/09 03:17 PM 02/17/09 03:17 PM
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moparmafia OP mopar M Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 568 Ky	i already have the headers and rockers and i was trying to figure if it would be worth going to the b1 heads. i know the sr's flow 355 but i had heard somewhere the victors would be quite a bit more. i would love to have the b1's but not sure i would want to spend that much.

Re: edelbrock victor ? [Re: moparmafia] #226938 02/17/09 03:25 PM 02/17/09 03:25 PM
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B1Fish540 master Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,840 Flint, Michigan	Quote: i already have the headers and rockers and i was trying to figure if it would be worth going to the b1 heads. i know the sr's flow 355 but i had heard somewhere the victors would be quite a bit more. i would love to have the b1's but not sure i would want to spend that much. IMO, if you already have the headers and rockers from a stock head then you go with the EZs. On the B1s, I would not use them on a stock block...they make too much power. I know its done all the time, but 900 or 1000 hp in a stock block scares me...lol

Re: edelbrock victor ? [Re: B1Fish540] #226939 02/17/09 03:35 PM 02/17/09 03:35 PM
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BDS871Cuda top fuel B Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,949 land of 10,000______'s	I agree Fish! Why would you spend all that money in B1 stuff and put it on a stock block. I really think Stealth's CNC'd by MCH could put a stock block to the test. They say over 700+. Snap your neck, mega G-force launch, is all I want!

Re: edelbrock victor ? [Re: BDS871Cuda] #226940 02/17/09 03:52 PM 02/17/09 03:52 PM
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B1Fish540 master Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,840 Flint, Michigan	Quote: I agree Fish! Why would you spend all that money in B1 stuff and put it on a stock block. I really think Stealth's CNC'd by MCH could put a stock block to the test. They say over 700+. Thats true, BDS, 700hp is stretching it for a stock block but he should be OK, IMHO. Besides, the Stealths can be used with his stock headers and rockers..so they would definitely be a good choice for a low buck and powerful combo. The EZs would make quite a bit more power..but the costs would be alot more too.

Re: edelbrock victor ? [Re: B1Fish540] #226941 02/17/09 09:50 PM 02/17/09 09:50 PM
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BigFish69 mopar B Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 482 Michigan	Keep buying those China Stealth heads and you maybe looking for a job to go along with those heads.

Re: edelbrock victor ? [Re: moparmafia] #226942 02/18/09 03:18 AM 02/18/09 03:18 AM
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Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,228 Bend,OR USA	I've made 700 HP with a 518 C.I. 910.25 to 1 comp. ratio low deck with MCH CNC Eddy RPM on pump gas, I will(hopefully) be dyno testing a 527 C.I. 12.4 to 1 comp ratio 440 bock with SR heads with max wedge ports soon. Hopefully in the next three weeks if everything at the dyno shop goes okay I will post the results, my Eddy heads flowed 310 CFM at 28 inches at .600 lift, my SR flowed 340 CFM at .600 lift at 28 inches on the same bench on two different days months apart. The 527 has more cam also and it will be tested on race gas I hope it doesn't break on the dyno and make a mess and embarrass me Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

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