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edelbrock victor ?

Posted By: moparmafia

edelbrock victor ? - 02/16/09 10:29 PM

has anyone ran the victors yet? i am trying to decide if i want the 440-1, sr's or the victors. i dont know anyone that has run a set but i had heard before these were going to be the best bang for the buck. is it true they can flow 400 cfm? from all the heads out there the sr still seems the best for the money.any info would be greatly appreciated.
Posted By: BDS871Cuda

Re: edelbrock victor ? - 02/16/09 10:36 PM

I can tell you right now Victors and Indy 440-1's
will not go 400.

Looks like stealth's are the best bang for the buck. I hear they go 320-330 range.
Not to bad for $1900.
Posted By: Kam*Kuda

Re: edelbrock victor ? - 02/16/09 10:52 PM

I don't think the stealth heads are in the same league as the victors or SR's
I hear good things about the voctors but have not run them. I am looking at the EZ so I do not have to get other rocker arms
Posted By: 70blackfish

Re: edelbrock victor ? - 02/16/09 11:23 PM

I have em with porting they will go 350 but you have to buy offset intake rocker arms, no way will the stealths flow that, there in the 275 out of the box. like the rpm.
I think stock 906's were around 225cfm
Posted By: Defbob

Re: edelbrock victor ? - 02/16/09 11:42 PM

I would use the Victors long before using Indy
Posted By: AndyF

Re: edelbrock victor ? - 02/16/09 11:44 PM

How much power are you trying to make and what is the shortblock? The Victor heads are okay but I'm not so sure they are a great bang for the buck by the time you add up the extras.

Personally I think the CNC ported Indy EZ heads are probably the best bet for most guys. They'll make 800 hp on a 500 inch shortblock and you don't need a special header or expensive offset rocker arms.
Posted By: moparmafia

Re: edelbrock victor ? - 02/16/09 11:59 PM

i am going with a 400 stroked to 500 with 440 source kit. i want to make the most power i can and if the victors are quite a bit more hp than sr's then i would go with them. i havent seen any information on a fully ported set of victors to help make up my mind.
Posted By: 70blackfish

Re: edelbrock victor ? - 02/17/09 12:01 AM

you dont need 400 cfm
Posted By: AndyF

Re: edelbrock victor ? - 02/17/09 12:04 AM

I don't understand your statement about making the most power you can. What does that mean? Put a blower and run nitro if you want to make power.

Since you're using a production block you're limited to something in the 700-800 hp range. The Indy EZ heads can easily make that kind of power and you won't have to mess around with offset rocker arms or raised port headers.

There is this book you need to read . . .
Posted By: G_bob

Re: edelbrock victor ? - 02/17/09 12:08 AM

Check back in a week or so. We'll all know then what the victors make on my 505 build.

Victor 505 build <--- Click here
Posted By: moparmafia

Re: edelbrock victor ? - 02/17/09 12:10 AM

of course everyone wants to make the most power they can. that was just a general statement, i thought you could understand that. ok i will try this again. i want to make the most power i can make with a 400 block stroked to 500. so what head would you use? victor, -1, or sr. or ?
Posted By: B1Fish540

Re: edelbrock victor ? - 02/17/09 12:29 AM

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of course everyone wants to make the most power they can. that was just a general statement, i thought you could understand that. ok i will try this again. i want to make the most power i can make with a 400 block stroked to 500. so what head would you use? victor, -1, or sr. or ?




I understood what you meant. You want to make the most power you can with those choice of heads. Its sort of a toss up. All three flow virtually the same..fully ported. But the best one out of the box has been the Victor. But I think you are talking about fully ported flow which= most horsepower. So it comes down to your personal choice. Each of these heads is a slightly different flavor of the same dish. The SR has better exhaust flow than the EZ. The Victor uses a bigger intake valve and should make slightly more power than either of those. So, of the heads you mentioned, IMHO, the Victor and the 440-1 would make the most power. Do you lke Edlebrock or ICH, thats pretty much the choice you will have to make.
Posted By: AndyF

Re: edelbrock victor ? - 02/17/09 12:51 AM

If you want to make a lot of power with a low deck motor then run B1 heads. The B1 heads are designed for low decks and they'll make a lot more power than Victor heads.
Posted By: moparmafia

Re: edelbrock victor ? - 02/17/09 01:03 AM

who should i contact about b1 heads and what stroker kit will i have to buy? doesn't the b1 heads use different pistons, rockers and headers? if the sr's cnc ported can make 800 hp what would the b1 heads make?
Posted By: Defbob

Re: edelbrock victor ? - 02/17/09 01:16 AM

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If you want to make a lot of power with a low deck motor then run B1 heads. The B1 heads are designed for low decks and they'll make a lot more power than Victor heads.






http://www.b1heads.com/
Posted By: B1Fish540

Re: edelbrock victor ? - 02/17/09 01:26 AM

Quote:

who should i contact about b1 heads and what stroker kit will i have to buy? doesn't the b1 heads use different pistons, rockers and headers? if the sr's cnc ported can make 800 hp what would the b1 heads make?




yes. Original B1s flow about 415 cfm. 900 hp is pretty easy. You may end up spending $1000 extra over the 440-1/Intake package for the B1 Package, though.
Posted By: Defbob

Re: edelbrock victor ? - 02/17/09 01:26 AM

The B1's are my personal favorite Wedge head.

They are the last heads you'd ever need. period

and they look cool with the matching intake (Best Machines motor)

Posted By: AndyF

Re: edelbrock victor ? - 02/17/09 01:34 AM

Quote:

who should i contact about b1 heads and what stroker kit will i have to buy? doesn't the b1 heads use different pistons, rockers and headers? if the sr's cnc ported can make 800 hp what would the b1 heads make?




http://b1heads.com/
Posted By: QWK_ENUF

Re: edelbrock victor ? - 02/17/09 12:46 PM

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...&PHPSESSID=

i like mine

i just used the offset intakes from hughes like $30 each

clearanceing the head for pushrod was simple and easy

mine are out the box

best of 10.13@130 with no tuning in 3235 lbs duster
Posted By: Harley

Re: edelbrock victor ? - 02/17/09 02:41 PM

Dose the B1-BS head have a raised exhaust port like the Indy-SR head?
Posted By: Bob_Coomer

Re: edelbrock victor ? - 02/17/09 03:41 PM

I gotta agree with the B1 stuff. The 440-1;s would be a distant second. I went with the 440-1's maxed out on power, had about as much money in to them as B1's would have been. And probably 50-100HP less.

Its been proven that the B1 stuff runs pretty good with just some prep work, no need to go all out. Yes its more money, but how much money will you spend later, changing the whole combo?
Posted By: rowin4

Re: edelbrock victor ? - 02/17/09 03:54 PM

Don't you have to buy special pistons to run b-1's ?
Posted By: 506RR

Re: edelbrock victor ? - 02/17/09 03:55 PM

If you don't have headers, or rockers yet, then I would go with the 440-1's or the Victors. That way you have room to grow with them in the future. Either head is capable of making quite a bit more power than a stock block can handle.

If you already have headers for a stock port location and standard roller rockers, then a set of EZ heads CNC'd by Jeff at Modern would be the hot ticket like AndyF said.

I have a set of EZ heads and a set of SR heads that have been CNC'd by Jeff, and both flow right at 350 cfm on the intakes, but the SR's outflow the EZ's on the exhaust by about 20-30 cfm.
Posted By: moparmafia

Re: edelbrock victor ? - 02/17/09 07:17 PM

i already have the headers and rockers and i was trying to figure if it would be worth going to the b1 heads. i know the sr's flow 355 but i had heard somewhere the victors would be quite a bit more. i would love to have the b1's but not sure i would want to spend that much.
Posted By: B1Fish540

Re: edelbrock victor ? - 02/17/09 07:25 PM

Quote:

i already have the headers and rockers and i was trying to figure if it would be worth going to the b1 heads. i know the sr's flow 355 but i had heard somewhere the victors would be quite a bit more. i would love to have the b1's but not sure i would want to spend that much.




IMO, if you already have the headers and rockers from a stock head then you go with the EZs. On the B1s, I would not use them on a stock block...they make too much power. I know its done all the time, but 900 or 1000 hp in a stock block scares me...lol
Posted By: BDS871Cuda

Re: edelbrock victor ? - 02/17/09 07:35 PM

I agree Fish!
Why would you spend all that money in B1 stuff
and put it on a stock block.

I really think Stealth's CNC'd by MCH could put
a stock block to the test.

They say over 700+.
Posted By: B1Fish540

Re: edelbrock victor ? - 02/17/09 07:52 PM

Quote:

I agree Fish!
Why would you spend all that money in B1 stuff
and put it on a stock block.

I really think Stealth's CNC'd by MCH could put
a stock block to the test.

They say over 700+.




Thats true, BDS, 700hp is stretching it for a stock block but he should be OK, IMHO. Besides, the Stealths can be used with his stock headers and rockers..so they would definitely be a good choice for a low buck and powerful combo. The EZs would make quite a bit more power..but the costs would be alot more too.
Posted By: BigFish69

Re: edelbrock victor ? - 02/18/09 01:50 AM

Keep buying those China Stealth heads and you maybe looking for a job to go along with those heads.
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: edelbrock victor ? - 02/18/09 07:18 AM

I've made 700 HP with a 518 C.I. 910.25 to 1 comp. ratio low deck with MCH CNC Eddy RPM on pump gas, I will(hopefully) be dyno testing a 527 C.I. 12.4 to 1 comp ratio 440 bock with SR heads with max wedge ports soon. Hopefully in the next three weeks if everything at the dyno shop goes okay I will post the results, my Eddy heads flowed 310 CFM at 28 inches at .600 lift, my SR flowed 340 CFM at .600 lift at 28 inches on the same bench on two different days months apart. The 527 has more cam also and it will be tested on race gas I hope it doesn't break on the dyno and make a mess and embarrass me
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