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Re: Sad story of poor sportsmanship at a Mopar race [Re: 69CHARGERMD] #210463 02/01/09 08:57 PM 02/01/09 08:57 PM
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 5,033 Ontario 5 5537SG super gas
5537SG super gas 5 Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 5,033 Ontario	Quote: Kyle,,,that was a good read.........thanks for the post. that is a great read. Everyone posting on this thread should read and comprehend that.

Re: Sad story of poor sportsmanship at a Mopar race [Re: camdog440] #210464 02/01/09 08:57 PM 02/01/09 08:57 PM
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pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,179 PA.	Nothing better than beating a guy twice in the same night. 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: Sad story of poor sportsmanship at a Mopar race #210465 02/01/09 10:32 PM 02/01/09 10:32 PM
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TMP66 super stock T Joined: May 2003 Posts: 961 .	Quote: I have always said if you want a mulligan go play golf If you want to race when you lose you lose and you are out... It's a track revenue thing. If it helps keeps tracks open because of soaring costs and smaller car counts, so be it. I don't like the alternative.

Re: Sad story of poor sportsmanship at a Mopar race [Re: TMP66] #210466 02/01/09 10:42 PM 02/01/09 10:42 PM
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dannysbee master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,160 Texas	I don't mind a 1st round buy back, second round all the buy backs run each other. Third round they re-enter competition. That way if there are 50 buy backs only only 25 re-enter competition. Getting old just means you were smarter than some and luckier than others.

Re: Sad story of poor sportsmanship at a Mopar race [Re: dannysbee] #210467 02/02/09 02:44 AM 02/02/09 02:44 AM
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Evil Spirit master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,699 Newport, Mi	Back to the original post. It sounds like the race was a fundraiser for a local club, with the racer prize money donated, and the entry fees were to go to the club as funds raised for the club. That seems simple enough. The club stated before the race that buybacks (as in LOSER re-entrys) were to be purchased before the first round and weren't transferable. Still seems simple enough to me. So if someone lost in the first round that didn't purchase a re-entry before the race used someone elses ticket to te-enter, that racer is a LOSER and a CHEATER, and the person that gave him the ticket to re-enter is a CHEATER. It doesn't matter what the rules are at any other track, race, or redneck rodeo, in the case of this FUNDRAISING EVENT, the rules were no re-entry tix transferred, and if someone did so, shame on them (the LOSER/CHEATERS). Looks pretty simple when it's spelled out in black and white, doesn't it. Free advice and worth every penny... Factory trained Slinky rewinder.........

Re: Sad story of poor sportsmanship at a Mopar race [Re: dannysbee] #210468 02/02/09 02:54 AM 02/02/09 02:54 AM
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Evil Spirit master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,699 Newport, Mi	Quote: I don't mind a 1st round buy back, second round all the buy backs run each other. Third round they re-enter competition. That way if there are 50 buy backs only only 25 re-enter competition. IMO this is letting someone with more money than talent buy a round - the second round. First round losers that want to purchase a losers-buyback should have to race each other to go to the second round. That way everyone that races in the second round had to win one race, and everyone that goes to the third had to win two races. Free advice and worth every penny... Factory trained Slinky rewinder.........

Re: Sad story of poor sportsmanship at a Mopar race [Re: Evil Spirit] #210469 02/02/09 07:16 AM 02/02/09 07:16 AM
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willp enthusiast W Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 204 SW Missouri	Seems to me if I remember correctly there was a really good article written by Jok Nickleson (sp) several years ago about what buy backs do for the track. I can't remember where it was maybe Drag Racing Review? Something to research and find maybe?

Re: Sad story of poor sportsmanship at a Mopar race [Re: Evil Spirit] #210470 02/02/09 09:54 AM 02/02/09 09:54 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,160 Texas dannysbee master
dannysbee master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,160 Texas	Quote: Quote: I don't mind a 1st round buy back, second round the buy backs run each other . . Third round they re-enter competition. That way if there are 50 buy backs only only 25 re-enter competition. IMO this is letting someone with more money than talent buy a round - the second round. First round losers that want to purchase a losers-buyback should have to race each other to go to the second round. That way everyone that races in the second round had to win one race, and everyone that goes to the third had to win two races. That is what I said. Second round is just the buyout racers and the winners of the buyback round then re-enter competition. Everyone that races in the third round have won one race. Not every track does it this way, some have 1st and 2nd round buy backs and put all the buy backs into competition the next round. I think this stinks. If the rules were clear there is no gray area here and cheating is cheating. Getting old just means you were smarter than some and luckier than others.

Re: Sad story of poor sportsmanship at a Mopar race [Re: dannysbee] #210471 02/02/09 10:26 AM 02/02/09 10:26 AM
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4bbl member Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 163 Iowa,US	I hope we can all get over this. I learned as a very green racer years ago at the same track( very different owner then) I and a buddy were in the just into the money rounds and track owner let several loosers buy back in, this was after 5 rounds so you can imagine the car count was good for the track profit anyway. That track has been great for melast few years! In short, buy backs purchased after the loosing round by the looser, or loosers buy into a 1st, 2nd, or what ever round gambler's race is what I like, and the track net will be higher and the racers get more rounds. But what ever the track or club need to have the rules well understood. There, I'm going back to work on my car. See ya at the track. 4bbl If you can't hear it coming what's the point.......

Re: Sad story of poor sportsmanship at a Mopar race [Re: 4bbl] #210472 02/02/09 10:38 AM 02/02/09 10:38 AM
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G-Money1320 top fuel Joined: May 2007 Posts: 1,675 Mi.	Hey Bigdad, dont let this stop you from contributing to a good cause, but rather let this be a lesson to tighten up the ranks next year so this kind of thing wont be ABLE to happen. Every buyback should be filled out or at least a car number put on it when given to the driver AND checked in the staging lanes to make sure buyback matches the car. Its an easy fix and the 2 indivuals who cheated shouldnt be the end to a nice charitable event 416 stroker from Nick at Compu-flow. 11.14 in full street trim. Seems like a new best every time out. 11.06 open headers----so far!!

Re: Sad story of poor sportsmanship at a Mopar race [Re: BloFish] #210473 02/02/09 10:41 AM 02/02/09 10:41 AM
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Re: Sad story of poor sportsmanship at a Mopar race [Re: pittsburghracer] #210474 02/02/09 11:26 AM 02/02/09 11:26 AM
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wildcargo master W Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,059 Swamps of South Jersey.	Quote: Nothing better than beating a guy twice in the same night. I got the same guy 3 times in 1 night , I was starting to feel sory for him. not too sory, chevy Bud www.wildcar-go.itgo.com 64 DODGE 60' 1.433, 1/8 6.38 at 107.4, 1/4 10.08 at 132.02 foot brake, leaf springs

Re: Sad story of poor sportsmanship at a Mopar race [Re: wildcargo] #210475 02/02/09 11:35 AM 02/02/09 11:35 AM
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RonTheAnnouncer master Joined: May 2004 Posts: 4,617 In the tower	Same here, beat the same guy 3 times in one day. Each time I smacked him worse than the time before. The third time, I could SMELL the fear! Ron H. "Just when you think you have all of the answers...I change the questions!" "Rowdy" Roddy Piper

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