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Sad story of poor sportsmanship at a Mopar race
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02/01/09 02:08 PM
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Well, Yah know ..You try to help people out and I guess they prefer to instead take advantage of your kindness ..
Long story short, no more Moparama "dash for cash" for me, us, we ..
Seems that someone that felt he was more important than his fellow racers , decided to cheat
Took a long time for the truth to come out for sure, guess they might of gotten away with it except someone else knew and had a guilt trip and wanted to clear his mind I guess
One of the people IS a member here, not going to call him out here ..Not sure about the others
I don't have enough details to do that but, what I do know is ..
person #1 never paid for his buy back , lost 1st round ..
person #2 did buy his buy back for round 1 and won gave person two his buy back
Person #1 and person #2 both went some rounds and FOR SURE ..changed the outcome of the event..
Thats about all I want to or will say because its been too long now and nothing can be done but this
Just remember when you see me in person, I'll be expecting some kind of apology for your actions
Daryl
The lips of fools bring them strife, and their mouths invite a beating.Proverbs 18:6
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Re: Sad story of poor sportsmanship at a Mopar race
[Re: slantzilla]
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02/01/09 02:18 PM
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Yes, you had to buy the mulligan before 1st round
It was 15 bucks,
all went to the club
Prize money was all donated cash ..
The lips of fools bring them strife, and their mouths invite a beating.Proverbs 18:6
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Re: Sad story of poor sportsmanship at a Mopar race
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02/01/09 02:26 PM
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That sux, glad did not buy in the dash that day. But I don't like the buy-back in thing anyway. Do guys do that in the other classes there?
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Re: Sad story of poor sportsmanship at a Mopar race
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02/01/09 02:32 PM
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From time to time they do have buybacks , tracks have to do what they can to support themselves
but, in this instance ..
It was such a small amount and the money was 100% go to the Mopar club ..
Remember ALL THE PRIZE MONEY was donated as well
The lips of fools bring them strife, and their mouths invite a beating.Proverbs 18:6
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Re: Sad story of poor sportsmanship at a Mopar race
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02/01/09 03:20 PM
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What you are saying is 2 guys came to the race and bought 1 so called mulligan.One guy won and his buddy didn't.So they used the buy back.They - he paid for it. Did that buy back have a car number on or a drivers name on it so only the one guy could use it? If it did shame on the start line crew if not what is the problem? Why air this out here? Stop racing stay home. There are people that live in the gray area of rules they are not cheaters.Sounds like a Mopar race that was put for what reason? Take advange of your kindness how?
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02/01/09 04:12 PM
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Re: Sad story of poor sportsmanship at a Mopar race
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02/01/09 04:33 PM
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I have never heard of a buy-back before first round
That does sound a little odd.  And if it's just to raise money for the "club", geeze, raffle off a high end lawn chair to the car show crowd. Leave the racers to race. 
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Re: Sad story of poor sportsmanship at a Mopar race
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02/01/09 04:37 PM
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"What you are saying is 2 guys came to the race and bought 1 so called mulligan.One guy won and his buddy didn't.So they used the buy back.They - he paid for it."
Not really, had a meeting BEFORE THE RACE, went over the rules, told them we were short enough people to try to run around and collect money for a buy back,
Entry was $25.00, 2nd round mulligan was $15.00
the 2nd round mulligan went with each driver, you could not buy one and give it to whomever, it was for you to use and you alone
1st place was $850.00 .. Not a bad pay day for 40 bucks
" Did that buy back have a car number on or a drivers name on it so only the one guy could use it? If it did shame on the start line crew if not what is the problem? "
See above, yes ..you purchased it, you used it no one else could
"Why air this out here? "
Well it was promoted here, people off the site added to the payout and some prizes
I've been getting PM's about when we would do it this year, instead of that I though I'd give a better explanation of we we will not do it for third year
"Stop racing stay home. " ..Huh ??
"There are people that live in the gray area of rules they are not cheaters. "
Grey area my back side, they knew it was wrong, he went up for 2nd round and took out someone that had the right to be there when he did not
"Sounds like a Mopar race that was put for what reason? "
It was a show, race etc for the local Mopar club the plan was to try to get it bigger and better year after year
"Take advange of your kindness how?"
I donated over $1000.00 to the cash purse
The lips of fools bring them strife, and their mouths invite a beating.Proverbs 18:6
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Re: Sad story of poor sportsmanship at a Mopar race
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02/01/09 04:39 PM
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FWIW I generally think the "buy back" guys, or "mulligan" racers in this scenario, should have to go into a separate group and race each other, OR be out of the main money race all together and race for a much lesser purse.
Thats a good idea for all tracks, buy backs race for their own "buy back purse" .
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Re: Sad story of poor sportsmanship at a Mopar race
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02/01/09 05:05 PM
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FWIW I generally think the "buy back" guys, or "mulligan" racers in this scenario, should have to go into a separate group and race each other, OR be out of the main money race all together and race for a much lesser purse.
Thats a good idea for all tracks, buy backs race for their own "buy back purse" .
Why? What difference does it make, if you have to run a car that bought back or not. You have to go (x) amount of rounds to win a race. Why would it really matter if you ran the same guy every round. Cut a light, run the number, win the race. Every track wants to pay a decent purse and racers want to race for a decent purse, so why begrudge a track for allowing buy backs, to get some extra cash. The first reason you always hear, "they don't put the buyback money in the purse", again, so what. It takes money to keep the gates of that track open, for you to come out and race for that guaranteed money, in front of empty stands. It would be nice if all the racers could be on the track owner or promoters side of things, just one time and see how hard it is to keep a track open and halfway updated and on top of that, provide you with a living, if you don't have a real job.
Monte
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Re: Sad story of poor sportsmanship at a Mopar race
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02/01/09 05:21 PM
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FWIW I generally think the "buy back" guys, or "mulligan" racers in this scenario, should have to go into a separate group and race each other, OR be out of the main money race all together and race for a much lesser purse.
Thats a good idea for all tracks, buy backs race for their own "buy back purse" .
Why? What difference does it make, if you have to run a car that bought back or not. You have to go (x) amount of rounds to win a race. Why would it really matter if you ran the same guy every round. Cut a light, run the number, win the race. Every track wants to pay a decent purse and racers want to race for a decent purse, so why begrudge a track for allowing buy backs, to get some extra cash. The first reason you always hear, "they don't put the buyback money in the purse", again, so what. It takes money to keep the gates of that track open, for you to come out and race for that guaranteed money, in front of empty stands. It would be nice if all the racers could be on the track owner or promoters side of things, just one time and see how hard it is to keep a track open and halfway updated and on top of that, provide you with a living, if you don't have a real job.
Monte
 I don't really like buybacks either but Monte is 100% right. With the money the tracks pay out and the low car counts the tracks need buybacks to survive. Bigdad,sorry this happened and I hope the cheater is a first round loser all year. maybe he will wise up but I drought it. 
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Re: Sad story of poor sportsmanship at a Mopar race
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02/01/09 05:31 PM
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FWIW I generally think the "buy back" guys, or "mulligan" racers in this scenario, should have to go into a separate group and race each other, OR be out of the main money race all together and race for a much lesser purse.
Thats a good idea for all tracks, buy backs race for their own "buy back purse" .
Why? What difference does it make, if you have to run a car that bought back or not. You have to go (x) amount of rounds to win a race. Why would it really matter if you ran the same guy every round. Cut a light, run the number, win the race. Every track wants to pay a decent purse and racers want to race for a decent purse, so why begrudge a track for allowing buy backs, to get some extra cash. The first reason you always hear, "they don't put the buyback money in the purse", again, so what. It takes money to keep the gates of that track open, for you to come out and race for that guaranteed money, in front of empty stands. It would be nice if all the racers could be on the track owner or promoters side of things, just one time and see how hard it is to keep a track open and halfway updated and on top of that, provide you with a living, if you don't have a real job.
Monte
I don't really like buybacks either but Monte is 100% right. With the money the tracks pay out and the low car counts the tracks need buybacks to survive. Bigdad,sorry this happened and I hope the cheater is a first round loser all year. maybe he will wise up but I drought it.
also, with the cost of travel these days along iwth the time buy backs are a good idea imo. really doesn't matter who you are racing like Monte said. you have to beat every body you line up against to win a race.
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