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Re: SB Edelbrock knock off heads? [Re: sixpackgut] #2037954
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Originally Posted By sixpackgut
I have ported a bunch of holley intakes that say China on the bottom. Just saying


It was their choice to have it cast there.. the
intake wasnt stolen and copied
wave

Re: SB Edelbrock knock off heads? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2038074
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Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
Originally Posted By sixpackgut
I have ported a bunch of holley intakes that say China on the bottom. Just saying


It was their choice to have it cast there.. the
intake wasnt stolen and copied
wave



I get that but if you think that just because your buying from an american company doesnt mean your buying american made parts. I dont get wrapped up in this because my job relies on trade and it has slowed down alot since last August.

I buy radiator fans off ebay for $15. Sure I could spend hundreds probably for the exact same parts the claim theyre an american company. I bought a pinto rack for $100 that was made in italy. Where are the $300 flaming river racks made?


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Re: SB Edelbrock knock off heads? [Re: cdstl] #2042920
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They should change their name to "Flaming Thiever"....


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Re: SB Edelbrock knock off heads? [Re: sixpackgut] #2042997
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Originally Posted By sixpackgut
Brad, sell me your engine for 10k and Ill put it in the van and take it to drag week. You can be my co pilot.


Sounds good, let's go!!!


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Re: SB Edelbrock knock off heads? [Re: cdstl] #2043484
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so are pro comp,pro max,sidewinder,speedmaster and all the small shops buying the knock-off castings and assembling them for resale?
as for the off shore products,it's just a natural evolution of economy.The same reason everyone shops Walmart instead of the small stores any more.

Re: SB Edelbrock knock off heads? [Re: can.al] #2043509
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Originally Posted By can.al
so are pro comp,pro max,sidewinder,speedmaster and all the small shops buying the knock-off castings and assembling them for resale?
as for the off shore products,it's just a natural evolution of economy.The same reason everyone shops Walmart instead of the small stores any more.


I don't shop WalMart and I don't buy no-name Chinese parts. European, Canadian, Japanese, even Taiwanese in a pinch. But not ChiCom stuff. Sometimes it's unavoidable, like the Holley intake that Holley has cast there. Some of it is just the result of EPA, OSHA, etc. etc. chasing manufacturing off shore. It's becoming more difficult all the time, but I read labels and avoid it whenever possible. The fact that someone made 2000 horsepower with a $300 set of no name cylinder heads and they were on the car for 10 years is irrelevant to me.


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Re: SB Edelbrock knock off heads? [Re: can.al] #2043523
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Originally Posted By can.al
so are pro comp,pro max,sidewinder,speedmaster and all the small shops buying the knock-off castings and assembling them for resale?
as for the off shore products,it's just a natural evolution of economy.The same reason everyone shops Walmart instead of the small stores any more.


Yes, except pro comp...those are their own and notoriously bad.

If you can think of a catchy name and want to sell your own here you go:

http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Small-block-mopar-cylinder-head_60304867500.html

for the BB

http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/New-Developed-Cylinder-Head-for-Chrysler_1729137645.html

Re: SB Edelbrock knock off heads? [Re: CTD5.9] #2043538
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ProComp IS Speedmaster, it's not a secret. They announced the name change some time back.

It appears that there are more than one Chinese manufacturers of Mopar heads. The guy who is doing the Sidewinder heads actually posted on here.

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Re: SB Edelbrock knock off heads? [Re: CMcAllister] #2043577
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Originally Posted By CMcAllister
Originally Posted By can.al
so are pro comp,pro max,sidewinder,speedmaster and all the small shops buying the knock-off castings and assembling them for resale?
as for the off shore products,it's just a natural evolution of economy.The same reason everyone shops Walmart instead of the small stores any more.


I don't shop WalMart and I don't buy no-name Chinese parts. European, Canadian, Japanese, even Taiwanese in a pinch. But not ChiCom stuff. Sometimes it's unavoidable, like the Holley intake that Holley has cast there. Some of it is just the result of EPA, OSHA, etc. etc. chasing manufacturing off shore. It's becoming more difficult all the time, but I read labels and avoid it whenever possible. The fact that someone made 2000 horsepower with a $300 set of no name cylinder heads and they were on the car for 10 years is irrelevant to me.


Same here... the wife and I dont shop Walmart.. period
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Re: SB Edelbrock knock off heads? [Re: cdstl] #2043581
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So I guess you guys won't buy a Dodge Challenger cause it's made in Brampton Ontario.. don't be a hypocrite now.


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Originally Posted By Ice~Eagle
So I guess you guys won't buy a Dodge Challenger cause it's made in Brampton Ontario.. don't be a hypocrite now.


I have never owned one... dont plan on it either..
but I have no issue buying Canadian products if they
are made there
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Re: SB Edelbrock knock off heads? [Re: sixpackgut] #2043592
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Originally Posted By sixpackgut
Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
Originally Posted By sixpackgut
I have ported a bunch of holley intakes that say China on the bottom. Just saying


It was their choice to have it cast there.. the
intake wasnt stolen and copied
wave



I get that but if you think that just because your buying from an american company doesnt mean your buying american made parts. I dont get wrapped up in this because my job relies on trade and it has slowed down alot since last August.

I buy radiator fans off ebay for $15. Sure I could spend hundreds probably for the exact same parts the claim theyre an american company. I bought a pinto rack for $100 that was made in italy. Where are the $300 flaming river racks made?


Flaming River stuff is all made here in Cleveland in their shop, just like we make Wiseco and JE Forgings among other forgings for the industry here in Cleveland. 95% of the wrist pins in yours and my engines are not made on American soil. I wouldn't be so quick to judge, there has been vast improvements in QUALITY made parts over the years on overseas products, like American made products, you get what you pay for. You would be surprised to know were your American made cranks start life..........

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Originally Posted By Discoquik
Originally Posted By sixpackgut
Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
Originally Posted By sixpackgut
I have ported a bunch of holley intakes that say China on the bottom. Just saying


It was their choice to have it cast there.. the
intake wasnt stolen and copied
wave



I get that but if you think that just because your buying from an american company doesnt mean your buying american made parts. I dont get wrapped up in this because my job relies on trade and it has slowed down alot since last August.

I buy radiator fans off ebay for $15. Sure I could spend hundreds probably for the exact same parts the claim theyre an american company. I bought a pinto rack for $100 that was made in italy. Where are the $300 flaming river racks made?


Flaming River stuff is all made here in Cleveland in their shop, just like we make Wiseco and JE Forgings among other forgings for the industry here in Cleveland. 95% of the wrist pins in yours and my engines are not made on American soil. I wouldn't be so quick to judge, there has been vast improvements in QUALITY made parts over the years on overseas products, like American made products, you get what you pay for. You would be surprised to know were your American made cranks start life..........


I research where stuff comes from.. and I know that
most casting work is done overseas.. but I can and do
buy where I want to... its my money and I do try to
keep American jobs here if I can
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Re: SB Edelbrock knock off heads? [Re: cdstl] #2043605
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I see Vans Auto selling these.,anybody know who assemble their heads?

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Re: SB Edelbrock knock off heads? [Re: DARTH V8Я] #2043948
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Originally Posted By Ice~Eagle
So I guess you guys won't buy a Dodge Challenger cause it's made in Brampton Ontario.. don't be a hypocrite now.


I can't decide if this statement is apples to rutabagas , or just plain retarded.
Is it your Canadian insecurity popping up , or do you not understand the point of this ?
I fully understand that we were sold the rope at bargain prices and are now gakking for lack of oxygen because of our shortsightedness.
And also feel that those decisions were made a pay grade or ten above my peers , but that doesn't mean we have to be complicit.
I buy quality , and for what I have done none of it was available from China.
Even if it were , I would support domestic manufacturers on principal.

Re: SB Edelbrock knock off heads? [Re: can.al] #2044739
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Originally Posted By can.al
so are pro comp,pro max,sidewinder,speedmaster and all the small shops buying the knock-off castings and assembling them for resale?
as for the off shore products,it's just a natural evolution of economy.The same reason everyone shops Walmart instead of the small stores any more.


That's about the size of it really.


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Originally Posted By tubtar

I can't decide if this statement is apples to rutabagas , or just plain retarded.


Retarded? Listen buddy.. if Wal-Mart & all it's Chinese products ever decided to close up shop in America it would a year of National Mourning for you guys. Posting from a comp? Phone? Check to see where it's made. Throw em out. Almost everything you own is in some way connected to that part of the world. Throw it all out on "principle".


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Re: SB Edelbrock knock off heads? [Re: cdstl] #2044878
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There used to be a time where you had the choice of quality or junk, depending on what you needed and wanted to spend. I'm OK with that. Often times now though, the only option is cheap junk designed to last about 3 minutes longer than the warranty or stuff made by companies trying to see which one can make it the cheapest. Everybody is in a race to the bottom. "Good enough, barely" has replaced "the best it can be".

I have American made shop tools I bought 20 or 30 years ago, still work great, still used everyday. Stuff they sell now blow up in 6 months, go in the trash and get replaced.


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I bought a set of these from Vans.took them to my machine shop and they gave them a clean bill of health.

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I understand loyalty to our nation. It gets confusing when there is someone who only buys Ford, Chevy or Holley and have pledged their allegiance to these American companies but they have ZERO issues with these USA companies SOURCING OUT WORK TO AN OVERSEAS PART OF THE GLOBE. If someone is a buy ONLY AMERICAN person they should have stood up and protested GM Ford GE RCA Troy Built ect ect ect years even decades ago the instant those companies decided to have components,sub assemblies and entire complete products made in China. If you dont like things made outside the USA you should not lecture moparts members- you should protest/boycott the American MFGR of choice and demand they be 100% made here. Where is the line drawn? "My Ford is 80% made in the USA and your Chevy is 79% made in the USA so I am the better American by 1%..." The big 3 auto makers partnered up with a Japanese mfgr way back in the 1970s. People share disadain for Toyata and praise for GM when GM has been relying on Japanese tech, labor and parts for decades but yet someone who buys a Honda or Nissan is wrong.


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