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SB Edelbrock knock off heads? #2037357
03/23/16 07:41 PM
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What do you guys know about these heads

Heads

The part number kind of spells chinese CHZCHSB


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Re: SB Edelbrock knock off heads? [Re: cdstl] #2037361
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I think made by same guy that makes sidewinders--Nice quality--good real bronze guides--good quality seats and seat fit--nice Eddy knock off --excellent quality--lots less than Eddys when bought at right place--bout time....You can buy equal quality Chevy head for $500 a pair range so..again we get it in the shorts because we are Mopar 16 guides and seats cost same--aluminum cost same--machine work same--shipping same etc so a pattern box that takes a couple weeks--little trial and error then good to go from now on...

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Why would reward someone for copying someone's work?

Re: SB Edelbrock knock off heads? [Re: cdstl] #2037407
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I don`t know anything about them but anything China throws up a red flag for me. Not saving that much money. I would go with Edelbrocks if it were me but do what you want.

Re: SB Edelbrock knock off heads? [Re: cdstl] #2037411
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So you buy Lays chips or store brand that are way less than half price of Lays
Come on No way to build a non china part Mopar car-- Those heads are cheaper than that Egay ad at other places and Eddys have just gone up and up and up
and even they have imported valves , springs etc I would think and I have used a truck load of Sidewinders and NEVER had to hone a tight guide like good ole USA Eddys--
Little too late to start the Buy USA deal again--impossible now to source everything you want from US made--ain't happening
We did not do this--it was Done to us!

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Originally Posted By crabman173
So you buy Lays chips or store brand that are way less than half price of Lays
Come on No way to build a non china part Mopar car-- Those heads are cheaper than that Egay ad at other places and Eddys have just gone up and up and up
and even they have imported valves , springs etc I would think and I have used a truck load of Sidewinders and NEVER had to hone a tight guide like good ole USA Eddys--
Little too late to start the Buy USA deal again--impossible now to source everything you want from US made--ain't happening
We did not do this--it was Done to us!
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Re: SB Edelbrock knock off heads? [Re: cdstl] #2037451
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Ive been running them ported on a race block for some time with no issues.

Im sorry they are not made here but neither is alot of the stoker kit parts we use but no one will pay 2k more for a rot. assembly because its fully usa made.

Sorry for the Edit, they are decent castings....But on this site you would need a signed parchment from god to convince anyone.

Re: SB Edelbrock knock off heads? [Re: Porter67] #2037470
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Are they better than the Procomp heads? If so I may grab a set.


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Re: SB Edelbrock knock off heads? [Re: pittsburghracer] #2037480
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Sure am glad I buy American if at all possible..
from the sounds of it here the American companies
might as well close their doors and let China do
the engineering... oh wait.. they dont engineer
anything... they just steal from other companies
and make it
wave

Re: SB Edelbrock knock off heads? [Re: cdstl] #2037482
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And we wonder why no one wants to make the investment to make new blocks, heads and decent parts. Why would they want to create something, have the Chinese steal and copy it and watch people line up to buy the junk to save a few dollars?

I'm surprised Edelbrock, MSD, Holley, and a few others haven't thrown in the towel in frustration.

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Re: SB Edelbrock knock off heads? [Re: pittsburghracer] #2037490
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Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Are they better than the Procomp heads? If so I may grab a set.

YES!
Pro comp even gives China crap a bad name--they have sold a million SBC heads though--the guides are yellow but they are not bronze--Worst stuff in the world period but...the guy that makes these is a real business man and hard working guy--he has a clean modern factory and cares--If I had to guess he has put everything he owns on the line --taking a chance--making a good product and going for it! Now that--is chasing the dream and anyone who runs that route is OK on my list

These really are well cast, quality aluminum, quality bronze guides, seats and seat fit to head is first rate--you will like them --Think Sidewinder small block head

Re: SB Edelbrock knock off heads? [Re: cdstl] #2037591
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I have ported a bunch of holley intakes that say China on the bottom. Just saying


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Re: SB Edelbrock knock off heads? [Re: cdstl] #2037595
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Can this head be used on a magnum motor?


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Re: SB Edelbrock knock off heads? [Re: CMcAllister] #2037651
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Originally Posted By CMcAllister
And we wonder why no one wants to make the investment to make new blocks, heads and decent parts. Why would they want to create something, have the Chinese steal and copy it and watch people line up to buy the junk to save a few dollars?

I'm surprised Edelbrock, MSD, Holley, and a few others haven't thrown in the towel in frustration.
Don't look now, but MSD has thrown in the towel. They filed for Bankruptcy and sold out to Holley.

Re: SB Edelbrock knock off heads? [Re: cdstl] #2037667
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MSD went bankrupt several years ago. A holding company MSDP bought it. MSDP bought Accel group end of 2014. End of 2015 Holley Product bought MSDP.


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Re: SB Edelbrock knock off heads? [Re: cdstl] #2037730
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If these sb heads are made by the same guys that make the Sidewinder heads, I wouldn't be afraid to use them.

Does Todd Marsh offer them?

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Originally Posted By crabman173
So you buy Lays chips or store brand that are way less than half price of Lays
Come on No way to build a non china part Mopar car-- Those heads are cheaper than that Egay ad at other places and Eddys have just gone up and up and up
and even they have imported valves , springs etc I would think and I have used a truck load of Sidewinders and NEVER had to hone a tight guide like good ole USA Eddys--
Little too late to start the Buy USA deal again--impossible now to source everything you want from US made--ain't happening
We did not do this--it was Done to us!


Gee I wonder where my w9's were made. I wonder where my r1a block was made. I wonder where my Carrillo rods were made. How about the diamond pistons? Maybe my Del west valves? How about my Mopar 420 intake? Oh that's right you can't build a Mopar without China crap, I think not. You just have to look around and you can find plenty of company's that make what you need.

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Re: SB Edelbrock knock off heads? [Re: cdstl] #2037773
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Brad, sell me your engine for 10k and Ill put it in the van and take it to drag week. You can be my co pilot.


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Re: SB Edelbrock knock off heads? [Re: cdstl] #2037914
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Not enough of a discount to me, I would rather buy the edelbrok head in my opinion.


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Re: SB Edelbrock knock off heads? [Re: sixpackgut] #2037934
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Originally Posted By sixpackgut
I have ported a bunch of holley intakes that say China on the bottom. Just saying


And I have "fixed" a bunch of China`s finest carbs..........


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