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Bouchillon AC install nightmare. HELP! #1635082
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I'm installing a Bouchillon A/C kit and I've got a belt alignment issue that I can't seem to wrap my tired old brain around. The compressor drive belts are touching the driver’s side of the water pump and the front belt is touching the back of the fan pulley. I could possibly shim the fan pulley forward slightly, but I only have about 3/4” clearance between the fan clutch and the radiator. But that would still leave the issue of the belts touching the pump.

The car is a 1970 Dodge Dart Swinger and was a factory A/C car. The A/C was intact and functional (until the compressor blew a front seal) and all the belts cleared just fine. Can anyone give me some guidance on how I might be able to resolve this? I'm going to post few pictures in case that helps.

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Re: Bouchillon AC install nightmare. HELP! [Re: MadMatt] #1635083
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Re: Bouchillon AC install nightmare. HELP! [Re: MadMatt] #1635084
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Re: Bouchillon AC install nightmare. HELP! [Re: MadMatt] #1635085
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Re: Bouchillon AC install nightmare. HELP! [Re: MadMatt] #1635086
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Just looking at it, it looks like you need a multi groove water pump pulley. Contact Bouchillon, they should be able to help. HTH, Steve

Re: Bouchillon AC install nightmare. HELP! [Re: Skeptic] #1635087
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Doesn't the Bouchillon kit only use 1 belt. That was the reason I went with something else, don't like seeing the double pulleys with 1 slot open.

http://bouchillonperformance.com/inc/sdetail/467/572

Re: Bouchillon AC install nightmare. HELP! [Re: BDW] #1635088
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Doesn't the Bouchillon kit only use 1 belt. That was the reason I went with something else, don't like seeing the double pulleys with 1 slot open.

http://bouchillonperformance.com/inc/sdetail/467/572




Two belts here

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Doesn't the Bouchillon kit only use 1 belt. That was the reason I went with something else, don't like seeing the double pulleys with 1 slot open.

http://bouchillonperformance.com/inc/sdetail/467/572




Two belts here,no problem.

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Re: Bouchillon AC install nightmare. HELP! [Re: 62maxwgn] #1635090
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Thats BB isn't it?
I meant it only uses 1 belt on the double pulley AC and alternator part for SB.
My VA setup has 3 total


Re: Bouchillon AC install nightmare. HELP! [Re: BDW] #1635091
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Two belts on the A/C and alternator,one on the water pump/power steering.

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Re: Bouchillon AC install nightmare. HELP! [Re: BDW] #1635092
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Doesn't the Bouchillon kit only use 1 belt. That was the reason I went with something else, don't like seeing the double pulleys with 1 slot open.

http://bouchillonperformance.com/inc/sdetail/467/572




2 belts on the small block. The instructions say it is mandatory.


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Re: Bouchillon AC install nightmare. HELP! [Re: 62maxwgn] #1635093
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2 belts total, you have 3?

Re: Bouchillon AC install nightmare. HELP! [Re: Skeptic] #1635094
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Just looking at it, it looks like you need a multi groove water pump pulley. Contact Bouchillon, they should be able to help. HTH, Steve




It would have to be a very deep, 3-groove, pulley. And it would make the belts considerably longer. I'm just surprised that everything fit with the stock set up, but doesn't work now.


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Re: Bouchillon AC install nightmare. HELP! [Re: BDW] #1635095
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The link I posted shows 2 belts total, 1 on AC/alternator, 1 on power steering.
Am I missing something, your pic doesn't match the Bouchillon website pic for a SB setup.

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Re: Bouchillon AC install nightmare. HELP! [Re: BDW] #1635096
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The link I posted shows 2 belts total, 1 on AC/alternator, 1 on power steering.
Am I missing something, your pic doesn't match the Bouchillon website pic for a SB setup.




Hmmm... I did see the photo before I ordered and thought I would end up with one belt. I looked that instructions again and what it says is "Alternator must have double groove pulley". But later it says "Belt routing is as follows: Drive belt for crank shaft and alternator installs on 2nd groove out and then around inner groove on AC compressor. The inner groove on crank shaft pulley and alternator are not used. The A/C compressor does not use the outer groove."

Now I'm really confused. Guess I'll try it that way, and see what happens.

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Re: Bouchillon AC install nightmare. HELP! [Re: MadMatt] #1635097
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Comparing the bouchillon pic to yours it looks like the bracket from the cylinder head to compressor is on the wrong side of the ear on the compressor.

Re: Bouchillon AC install nightmare. HELP! [Re: MadMatt] #1635098
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Doesn't the Bouchillon kit only use 1 belt. That was the reason I went with something else, don't like seeing the double pulleys with 1 slot open.

http://bouchillonperformance.com/inc/sdetail/467/572




2 belts on the small block. The instructions say it is mandatory.




I'd call JR at Bouchillon, he knows his stuff and helped me when I put there AC on both my cars.

My 340 only has one belt and I have been using it a lot for 10 years now. Still the same belt now that I think about it.

Re: Bouchillon AC install nightmare. HELP! [Re: Challenger 1] #1635099
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I'd call JR at Bouchillon......



STOP right there.
That should have been the first reply.

Re: Bouchillon AC install nightmare. HELP! [Re: Commando1] #1635100
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I'd call JR at Bouchillon......



STOP right there.
That should have been the first reply.




It was in the first reply

Re: Bouchillon AC install nightmare. HELP! [Re: Challenger 1] #1635101
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compressor looks to be too far forward, look at the mounting ears and make sure they are correct side of all the brackets.


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