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Reverse rotation 360 #1629596
06/06/14 05:34 PM
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What needs to be done to use a marine reverse rotation 360 in a car?
Is it just change the cam shaft, oil pump, distributor and the drive gear?
Just the long block, no accessories.
Please tell me the crankshaft is the same

HELP


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Re: Reverse rotation 360 [Re: Copper Dart] #1629597
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Timing chain. (?) since it is a marine engine, is it a crank gear to cam gear set up?
Food for thought... Since it is a reverse rotation engine.
I also can see an oil pan.

Re: Reverse rotation 360 [Re: Rob C] #1629598
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Still a standard timing chain but what is puzzling me is the dizzy drive gear is cut opposite of the small block I'm replacing it with.
Going to take pictures to post.


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Re: Reverse rotation 360 [Re: Copper Dart] #1629599
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the knurling on the crank is backwards and will pump oil out the rear main seal.


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Re: Reverse rotation 360 [Re: Copper Dart] #1629600
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pic 1 old/bad engine

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Re: Reverse rotation 360 [Re: Copper Dart] #1629601
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pic 2 rebuilt/new engine


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Re: Reverse rotation 360 [Re: Copper Dart] #1629602
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pic 3 old on the left.
new and suspect marine on the right.


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Re: Reverse rotation 360 [Re: Copper Dart] #1629603
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timing chain on the new suspect marine


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Re: Reverse rotation 360 [Re: Copper Dart] #1629604
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hell I would run it as a reverse rotation! It will really freak people out when you nail the throttle and the right front picks up instead of the left front. But that is just me!


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Re: Reverse rotation 360 [Re: Copper Dart] #1629605
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What needs to be done to use a marine reverse rotation 360 in a car?
Is it just change the cam shaft, oil pump, distributor and the drive gear?
Just the long block, no accessories.
Please tell me the crankshaft is the same

HELP


what the heck are you trying to do?

Re: Reverse rotation 360 [Re: BJS racing] #1629606
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hell I would run it as a reverse rotation! It will really freak people out when you nail the throttle and the right front picks up instead of the left front. But that is just me!




wouldn't it be the right rear

Re: Reverse rotation 360 [Re: BJS racing] #1629607
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hell I would run it as a reverse rotation! It will really freak people out when you nail the throttle and the right front picks up instead of the left front. But that is just me!




You would have to flip the rear axle over also, otherwise its got 3 speeds in reverse LOL


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Re: Reverse rotation 360 [Re: Bad340fish] #1629608
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.....just thinking of the time a buddy and I did a "tune up" on his 302 Ford marine engine and it didn't run for a week....

Re: Reverse rotation 360 [Re: HotRodDave] #1629609
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the knurling on the crank is backwards and will pump oil out the rear main seal.




We got burned on this with a 440 some years ago.


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Re: Reverse rotation 360 [Re: 72chrgrally] #1629610
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i know some dirt guys ran them

Re: Reverse rotation 360 [Re: theraif] #1629611
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i was given one and was told it had a steel crank, i did nothing with it and it was rusty i looked at the crank it look like a cast to me

Re: Reverse rotation 360 [Re: Quicktree] #1629612
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What needs to be done to use a marine reverse rotation 360 in a car?
Is it just change the cam shaft, oil pump, distributor and the drive gear?
Just the long block, no accessories.
Please tell me the crankshaft is the same

HELP


what the heck are you trying to do?




I'm trying to use the long block to replace a hurt engine. The '74 360 is a fresh 30 over and decked. The heads were just done and resurfaced too. I started the job before I found out its a reverse rotation engine. What if I remove the rope seal and install a 2 piece lip seal? Would that help with the rear main sealing?
I have a full days labor into it already pulling, cleaning, prepping etc. I need to have this thing burning fuel by Monday.


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Re: Reverse rotation 360 [Re: Copper Dart] #1629613
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What needs to be done to use a marine reverse rotation 360 in a car?
Is it just change the cam shaft, oil pump, distributor and the drive gear?
Just the long block, no accessories.
Please tell me the crankshaft is the same

HELP


what the heck are you trying to do?




I'm trying to use the long block to replace a hurt engine. The '74 360 is a fresh 30 over and decked. The heads were just done and resurfaced too. I started the job before I found out its a reverse rotation engine. What if I remove the rope seal and install a 2 piece lip seal? Would that help with the rear main sealing?
I have a full days labor into it already pulling, cleaning, prepping etc. I need to have this thing burning fuel by Monday.


yikes, good luck with that. better find a boat guy and sell it and move on I have a nice short block roller motor out of my challenger setting here

Re: Reverse rotation 360 [Re: HotRodDave] #1629614
06/07/14 11:12 AM
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the knurling on the crank is backwards and will pump oil out the rear main seal.




Not sure on a 360 Mope, but I did a 350 GM out of my old Cruiser for a project I did and just had to use the correct rear main seal....cam and dizzy....problem solved...???

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Re: Reverse rotation 360 [Re: Quicktree] #1629615
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Is the crank OK in the "hurt" engine? Too bad you aren't closer, I've got a crank you could have.


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