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833 transmission #1575921 02/08/14 06:04 PM 02/08/14 06:04 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 23 WV, USA D donsdart OP member
donsdart OP member D Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 23 WV, USA	Any ideas why a newly rebuilt 833 will slip from 4th gear when decelerating or coasting downhill? Does not do this in any other gear or during acceleration.

Re: 833 transmission [Re: donsdart] #1575922 02/08/14 06:09 PM 02/08/14 06:09 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 18,678 Fresno, CA Jim_Lusk I Live Here
Jim_Lusk I Live Here Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 18,678 Fresno, CA	Either it wasn't fully rebuilt (the hubs, dogs, and sliders wear) or the shifter should be adjusted one turn longer on every rod (this "trick" worked on my son's 18-spline that was NOT fully rebuilt).

Re: 833 transmission [Re: Jim_Lusk] #1575923 02/08/14 06:25 PM 02/08/14 06:25 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 23 WV, USA D donsdart OP member
donsdart OP member D Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 23 WV, USA	Thanks Jim, I adjusted 4th gear out one turn with no improvement. I'll try the rest and see what happens. May have to crack it open!

Re: 833 transmission [Re: donsdart] #1575924 02/08/14 06:51 PM 02/08/14 06:51 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 18,678 Fresno, CA Jim_Lusk I Live Here
Jim_Lusk I Live Here Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 18,678 Fresno, CA	Turn it one turn the other way (so, two turns back the other way). If this doesn't work, it's time for a real full rebuild (which I have never done, and I've been through a few of these).

Re: 833 transmission [Re: Jim_Lusk] #1575925 02/08/14 07:00 PM 02/08/14 07:00 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 23 WV, USA D donsdart OP member
donsdart OP member D Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 23 WV, USA	Will do. Are you saying to back all rods off 2 turns or just 4th gear?

Re: 833 transmission [Re: donsdart] #1575926 02/08/14 07:10 PM 02/08/14 07:10 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,849 Rio Linda, CA John_Kunkel Too Many Posts
John_Kunkel Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,849 Rio Linda, CA	Bellhousing misalignment will make it pop out of 4th on deceleration. The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway

Re: 833 transmission [Re: donsdart] #1575927 02/08/14 07:12 PM 02/08/14 07:12 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska	I'm out on a limb here cuz I ain't a stick guy but I'd put the 1-2 & 3-4 trans levers in neutral the stick the drill bit thru the shifter to line it up then adj the rod threaded lengths till the L bends fit right into the hole(s) in the trans levers. If that didn't solve it then I'd: with the 3-4 trans lever disconnected I would shift the trans lever to put the trans in 4th then shift the shifter handle to 4th & see if the rod length makes it line up with the hole in the 3-4 trans lever on the side of the trans & adj it if needed & retry. live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: 833 transmission [Re: RapidRobert] #1575928 02/08/14 07:37 PM 02/08/14 07:37 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 528 SW CO HemiSportFury mopar
HemiSportFury mopar Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 528 SW CO	You may need to adjust to stop screw to make sure it goes all the way into 4th. Adjust the shift rods as described above, shift into 4th, disconnect the 4th gear rod at the lever end, and see if it needs to travel any more to get fully into gear. The FSM calls out the required free play or gap to be set at the stop. '64 Sport Fury, 528 Hemi, FiTech EFI, 4-speed, 4.10 Dana 60 '57 Belvedere 2dr sedan, current project in process '19 Cherokee Trail Hawk Elite '03 Ram 2500 CTD HO, 6-speed 214,000 miles and still going strong

Re: 833 transmission [Re: donsdart] #1575929 02/08/14 07:54 PM 02/08/14 07:54 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 18,678 Fresno, CA Jim_Lusk I Live Here
Jim_Lusk I Live Here Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 18,678 Fresno, CA	Quote: Will do. Are you saying to back all rods off 2 turns or just 4th gear? The rods all need to be adjusted the same so that neutral is even. This isn't a fix, really, but it will get you by sometimes. John has more experience than I do and he might also be correct.

Re: 833 transmission [Re: RapidRobert] #1575930 02/08/14 08:57 PM 02/08/14 08:57 PM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,889 up yours Supercuda About to go away
Supercuda About to go away Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,889 up yours	Quote: I'm out on a limb here cuz I ain't a stick guy but I'd put the 1-2 & 3-4 trans levers in neutral the stick the drill bit thru the shifter to line it up then adj the rod threaded lengths till the L bends fit right into the hole(s) in the trans levers. If that didn't solve it then I'd: with the 3-4 trans lever disconnected I would shift the trans lever to put the trans in 4th then shift the shifter handle to 4th & see if the rod length makes it line up with the hole in the 3-4 trans lever on the side of the trans & adj it if needed & retry. That is how I do it, but it was on a freshly rebuilt A833, I rebuilt it so I know all was done right, and a brand new shifter. Adjusted the rods till the slipped in without any drag and I used meatl bushings and new clips that I shimmed the slack out of. http://www.jegs.com/i/Hurst/530/332-7302/10002/-1?parentProductId=749352 Worked properly. But if things are worn you may have to fiddle with it. They say there are no such thing as a stupid question. They say there is always the exception that proves the rule. Don't be the exception.

Re: 833 transmission [Re: Supercuda] #1575931 02/08/14 09:46 PM 02/08/14 09:46 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 23 WV, USA D donsdart OP member
donsdart OP member D Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 23 WV, USA	Thanks to everyone for your help. I found no bushings in the linkage, so I will order a set of metal bushings and realign everything. This is a hemi in a 65 Belvedere and things tend to be weird!

Re: 833 transmission [Re: donsdart] #1575932 02/08/14 09:47 PM 02/08/14 09:47 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 4,013 South Park, Pa. 68LAR master
68LAR master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 4,013 South Park, Pa.	If after doing all of the adjusting that has been recommended and you see no improvement, .... When the transmission was rebuilt do the input shaft get replaced? (4th gear)? When a trans pops out on deceleration in any gear, it usually means the "dog" teeth are worn. I would,however,start with making sure the shifter is adjusted properly, and that the transmission is going all the way into gear. (ALWAYS do the easy stuff FIRST) 4 speed street legal. Best time 10.99 @ 124 mph on 93 octane pump gas @ 3926# total weight

Re: 833 transmission [Re: John_Kunkel] #1575933 02/08/14 10:33 PM 02/08/14 10:33 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 766 Ohio Dan Brewer super stock
Dan Brewer super stock Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 766 Ohio	Quote: Bellhousing misalignment will make it pop out of 4th on deceleration. this is the first thing that needs to be checked. Pilot bushing in good shape? Who did the rebuild? does the brg ret size match bell? If shifter linkage is adjusted and everything else checks ok trans needs to come apart. A833 4-speeds, parts & services http://www.brewersperformance.com/

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