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Meth injection..who runs it? #1494809
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Looking for info on meth injection. Where is methanol acquired? Cost effective? How much is used per gallon of gasoline roughly? How about suggested kits? We are going to be putting a new bullet in my brother's car soon and wondering about this option for a high comprsssion street shortblock we have laying here for it. Sorry for all the questions..I know nothing about it.

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Looking for info on meth injection. Where is methanol acquired? Cost effective? How much is used per gallon of gasoline roughly? How about suggested kits? We are going to be putting a new bullet in my brother's car soon and wondering about this option for a high comprsssion street shortblock we have laying here for it. Sorry for all the questions..I know nothing about it.




For a street build I would run E-85... if its in your
area... most of the time its way easier to get...
do you plan on driving it in cold weather

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Looking for info on meth injection. Where is methanol acquired? Cost effective? How much is used per gallon of gasoline roughly? How about suggested kits? We are going to be putting a new bullet in my brother's car soon and wondering about this option for a high comprsssion street shortblock we have laying here for it. Sorry for all the questions..I know nothing about it.




For a street build I would run E-85... if its in your
area... most of the time its way easier to get...
do you plan on driving it in cold weather



E85 is unfortunately out of the question right now as no pumps close by. As for cold driving, maybe some cool fall weather but no winter driving ect..

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E85 is unfortunately out of the question right now as no pumps close by. As for cold driving, maybe some cool fall weather but no winter driving ect..




In cool/cold weather the alky type fuels dont like to
fire up(basically below 45*) so a gas system is used
to get it fired and get a bit of temp into the engine
then change over to the alky.... just as a rule of thumb
you use 2X the amount for alky that you did for gas..
you might want to look at Rons Toilet as a site for info
and part... they sell lots of injection stuff
http://www.ronsfuel.com/killerrons.cfm

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Check out snow performance.

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E85 is unfortunately out of the question right now as no pumps close by. As for cold driving, maybe some cool fall weather but no winter driving ect..




In cool/cold weather the alky type fuels dont like to
fire up(basically below 45*) so a gas system is used
to get it fired and get a bit of temp into the engine
then change over to the alky.... just as a rule of thumb
you use 2X the amount for alky that you did for gas..
you might want to look at Rons Toilet as a site for info
and part... they sell lots of injection stuff
http://www.ronsfuel.com/killerrons.cfm




So Im guessing by your wording its not a system which supplements a standard gasoline system while running..which is what I was thinking it was.

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I have been looking at the AIS & Snow systems.Just looks too good to be true


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So Im guessing by your wording its not a system which supplements a standard gasoline system while running..which is what I was thinking it was.




Meth on the street isnt what I call street friendly
but it can work... but not with a stock fuel system..
you would really need a new tank, lines, pump and
then the injection itself(throttle body or injector
type system)... then getting meth on the street isnt
gonna happen.. that would be harder to get than E-85

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Buddy of mine runs meth injection on his 89 blown mustang. His system is from devilsown performance- about half the cost of snow performance, same quality, and I believe more adjustability. He hardly goes through any of it as you program when you want it to come in. I can't see you needing high amounts of it even in a high compression street car unless you are giving it a lot. For just cruising around, I would assume pump gas with the right camshaft to bleed off the compression would work ok

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Looking for info on meth injection. Where is methanol acquired? Cost effective? How much is used per gallon of gasoline roughly? How about suggested kits? We are going to be putting a new bullet in my brother's car soon and wondering about this option for a high comprsssion street shortblock we have laying here for it. Sorry for all the questions..I know nothing about it.




Are you talking about a ADDED system so he can run
gas then spray in meth to cool the intake charge
and add octane... OR a complete meth injection system

Re: Meth injection..who runs it? [Re: mshred] #1494819
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I'm running the snow performance meth/H2O kit. 11.2:1 440-6, no issues. I run 93 timing is set at 37* and I have no issues. Mine runs through a plate under the primary carb and it activated when the vaccum drops to 0...


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Looking for info on meth injection. Where is methanol acquired? Cost effective? How much is used per gallon of gasoline roughly? How about suggested kits? We are going to be putting a new bullet in my brother's car soon and wondering about this option for a high comprsssion street shortblock we have laying here for it. Sorry for all the questions..I know nothing about it.




Are you talking about a ADDED system so he can run
gas then spray in meth to cool the intake charge
and add octane... OR a complete meth injection system






He is talking about the use of a water and meth type kit Mike.

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Looking for info on meth injection. Where is methanol acquired? Cost effective? How much is used per gallon of gasoline roughly? How about suggested kits? We are going to be putting a new bullet in my brother's car soon and wondering about this option for a high comprsssion street shortblock we have laying here for it. Sorry for all the questions..I know nothing about it.




Are you talking about a ADDED system so he can run
gas then spray in meth to cool the intake charge
and add octane... OR a complete meth injection system






He is talking about the use of a water and meth type kit Mike.


Yes, im talking about the add on kits...sorry.

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I'm running the snow performance meth/H2O kit. 11.2:1 440-6, no issues. I run 93 timing is set at 37* and I have no issues. Mine runs through a plate under the primary carb and it activated when the vaccum drops to 0...


How much of it does it use per gallon of gas and is it hard to get?

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Check out snow performance.


That's what I run with my blower motor. IMO, one of the best systems out there. Lots of options to choose from and very tunable for almost any application.

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I'm running the snow performance meth/H2O kit. 11.2:1 440-6, no issues. I run 93 timing is set at 37* and I have no issues. Mine runs through a plate under the primary carb and it activated when the vaccum drops to 0...


How much of it does it use per gallon of gas and is it hard to get?




You can run wiper fluid in the kit and they last quite awhile apparently.

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I'm running the snow performance meth/H2O kit. 11.2:1 440-6, no issues. I run 93 timing is set at 37* and I have no issues. Mine runs through a plate under the primary carb and it activated when the vaccum drops to 0...


How much of it does it use per gallon of gas and is it hard to get?




It doesn't usde much at all, maybe 2.5"'s a day at the track. And it's washer fluid... pretty easy to find. It only fogs when the engine is under a load. I don't even "arm" it until I get to the track..or if I'm going to get on it.

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Check out snow performance.


That's what I run with my blower motor. IMO, one of the best systems out there. Lots of options to choose from and very tunable for almost any application.




kind of off topic, but are you using a 6 or 10 groove pulley system on your supercharger?


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I run meth in my supercharged 408. I am using a kit from AIS. A few year ago I was dyno testing the engine and there was a 70 HP difference when meth was used. I couldn't believe it. I actually bought the kit because it was easier to install than an intercooler. The added octane is also a big plus considering windshield washer fluid costs much less than race fuel.

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..... The added octane is also a big plus considering windshield washer fluid costs much less than race fuel.




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