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Now my Optima pooped out.. #1414804
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My red top Optima finally died. Can't really complain,it has been in my car since 2005 and has been recharged 100s of times. I don't plan on another Optima,I hear the quality just isn't there. For a car that hits the track only a few times a year,what would you fellas buy? Thanks!! Ted

Re: Now my Optima pooped out.. [Re: tboomer] #1414805
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My red top Optima finally died. Can't really complain,it has been in my car since 2005 and has been recharged 100s of times. I don't plan on another Optima,I hear the quality just isn't there. For a car that hits the track only a few times a year,what would you fellas buy? Thanks!! Ted




I've used the same old Die Hard from Sams Club... its
been in there 9 years... never been charged with a
charger.. just the alt... just the single battery in
my car
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I put the same one in my Rampage so I'll see how long
that one last

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Re: Now my Optima pooped out.. [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1414806
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Thanks,Mike! For the first 3 years,I ran without an alternator...so this thing took a beating! In my street stuff,I have had good luck with Interstate..

Re: Now my Optima pooped out.. [Re: tboomer] #1414807
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Ever consider the auto salvage yards? Nearly new batteries for $30-$35.


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Re: Now my Optima pooped out.. [Re: DaveRS23] #1414808
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Ever consider the auto salvage yards? Nearly new batteries for $30-$35.



I must admit that I am cheap..I will look!

Re: Now my Optima pooped out.. [Re: tboomer] #1414809
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I have had good luck with Die Hard and Interstate for years.


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Re: Now my Optima pooped out.. [Re: dartman366] #1414810
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I gave up on Optima after three of them went to crap in a little over a year.

I too have had good luck with Interstate


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Re: Now my Optima pooped out.. [Re: megajoltman] #1414811
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My marine Sears die hard lived in my race-car for 7 years no alternator recharge after every round then lasted another 3 years in my trailer.But I tore up 3-4 starters every year & at least one flywheel per year using it,from kick back when starting the engine.Went to a 16 Volt have not had any engine kick back nor broke any starters.My Rock battery died this year after 3 years of service.After do as much research as I could it come down to either the 16 volt Rock or XS battery.I picked the Rock again because it has 1,050 CCA VS XS 675 CCA,The tech. @ Rock said it needed 12-15 mins between rounds to fully recharge,the tech. @ XS said their battery needed 25-30 mins. between rounds to fully recharge.

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Re: Now my Optima pooped out.. [Re: megajoltman] #1414812
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Optima is made in Mexico or China now. Not the same quality they started with.

Re: Now my Optima pooped out.. [Re: viperakron] #1414813
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I get my batteries from my local CAT store.


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Re: Now my Optima pooped out.. [Re: 72Swinger] #1414814
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I have 2 Mopar batteries in my car...




Might need that second one after the other one fails.

But they've been there for 5 years now. I run a 90 amp alternator and use a battery tender when it sits. I never need to charge them at the track.


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Re: Now my Optima pooped out.. [Re: viperakron] #1414815
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Optima is made in Mexico or China now. Not the same quality they started with.




Mexico...

Just my $0.02..

Re: Now my Optima pooped out.. [Re: Sinitro] #1414816
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If you don't run an alternator....I strongly suggest a drycell such as Odyssey

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Re: Now my Optima pooped out.. [Re: rickstershemi] #1414817
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If you don't run an alternator....I strongly suggest a drycell such as Odyssey

Rickster





Yes, the odyssey batteries are very good batteries...

The sears Die hard "Platinum" battery is the same exact thing as an Odyssey battery, only a 100 bucks cheaper....made in the same exact plant, same materials, same AGM technology, just with the sears platinum badging...

I have one in my mopar, and that is the best battery iv'e ever owned.

http://www.sears.com/diehard-platinum-automotive-battery-group-size-34-price/p-02850034000P


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Re: Now my Optima pooped out.. [Re: mopardude318] #1414818
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If you don't run an alternator....I strongly suggest a drycell such as Odyssey

Rickster





Yes, the odyssey batteries are very good batteries...

The sears Die hard "Platinum" battery is the same exact thing as an Odyssey battery, only a 100 bucks cheaper....made in the same exact plant, same materials, same AGM technology, just with the sears platinum badging...

I have one in my mopar, and that is the best battery iv'e ever owned.

http://www.sears.com/diehard-platinum-automotive-battery-group-size-34-price/p-02850034000P




That is a great price....but I prefer the Odyssey PC1200MJT it's only 38lbs compared to 53lbs and the the posts are a better setup in my opinion $266.00

Rickster

Re: Now my Optima pooped out.. [Re: rickstershemi] #1414819
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Just a little update..I went to Hudson,Iowa yesterday to talk to Radar at R&J about my Victor heads. Stopped at Blaines Farm and Fleet and bought a big Diehard Gold battery with 880 CCAs...96.00 plus a 7.00 core charge. Good price for a 100 month battery with a free 3 year replacement! That should keep the MSD happy!!

Re: Now my Optima pooped out.. [Re: viperakron] #1414820
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Optima is made in Mexico or China now. Not the same quality they started with.



Really? I was going to replace mine that's been sitting dormant for the last 3 years (and assumed to have gone bad) w/ another one because I actually had good results with it. If they're not as good now as the original one I bought 5 years ago, that's too bad.

FWIW, my family's daily drivers all have either Interstate or Die Hards in them and the Interstates have generally lasted right about 5 years before needing replacement.

Re: Now my Optima pooped out.. [Re: BradH] #1414821
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Brad...They tried to sell me another Optima. I told him no thanks...I think the one he tried to sell me was like my old one...160.00!!

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Brad...They tried to sell me another Optima. I told him no thanks...I think the one he tried to sell me was like my old one...160.00!!



Yeah, I think the one I bought around 2007-2008 was close to $150, so that's not surprising.

Re: Now my Optima pooped out.. [Re: BradH] #1414823
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I have 3 of the newer optima's and although I am not happy with them shipping the labor out I have no problems with any of them. if you run a red top you need an alternator.

and I just payed $153 for mine form summit with free delivery

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I've had 3 Optima's. All had problems. I bought them at COSTCO and was able to return them. I bought an Autozne 750 CCA battery and no problems in 3 years. Car sits alot so I charge it after a long rest. I would not have another Optima even if it was free. Worst QC of anything I have bought EVER!!

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I've had 3 Optima's. All had problems. I bought them at COSTCO and was able to return them. I bought an Autozne 750 CCA battery and no problems in 3 years. Car sits alot so I charge it after a long rest. I would not have another Optima even if it was free. Worst QC of anything I have bought EVER!!



you can't let any battery set with out a trickle charge. they will loose voltage every day.

Re: Now my Optima pooped out.. [Re: babarracuda] #1414826
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save yourself a lot of bs and replace it with anything other than a optima.


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I am wondering if my MSD wasn't getting full voltage last fall with the Optima going bad. I need to get a pass or two in before making more changes...

Re: Now my Optima pooped out.. [Re: tboomer] #1414828
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You can get a 880cca industrial grade battery from your local Caterpiller dealer for around $105. They dont weigh anymore than an Optima either.


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My 2 cents,,, Optima is what I have had in my race car going on 4 years, no issue, I run 2 , with an alternator!
Optima along with several other battery names have been made now by Johnson controls for @ 4 years now, All of Autozone are as well as Advances, and most of Orielys, Altho they do have some Excide batteries.
All of Sears are Johnsons controls ,Walmart has a combo of excide, and Johnson control.
Only a few batteries makes are made here in the USA, All of Johnson Controls are made either mexico, or china/japan!
I believe the Excide Brothers may still be in jail??
Be that as it may, most batteries have a life of # 3 - 4 years!
Acid or glass mate, or gel. batteries can be influence by alternators issues, or battery drain issues, the more the battery goes dead by improper wiring issues and such it takes life out of the battery,
Improper charging technics is the biggest issue I have seen , use the correct charger for the type of battery you have

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My 2 cents,,, Optima is what I have had in my race car going on 4 years, no issue, I run 2 , with an alternator!
Optima along with several other battery names have been made now by Johnson controls for @ 4 years now, All of Autozone are as well as Advances, and most of Orielys, Altho they do have some Excide batteries.
All of Sears are Johnsons controls ,Walmart has a combo of excide, and Johnson control.
Only a few batteries makes are made here in the USA, All of Johnson Controls are made either mexico, or china/japan!
I believe the Excide Brothers may still be in jail??
Be that as it may, most batteries have a life of # 3 - 4 years!
Acid or glass mate, or gel. batteries can be influence by alternators issues, or battery drain issues, the more the battery goes dead by improper wiring issues and such it takes life out of the battery,
Improper charging technics is the biggest issue I have seen , use the correct charger for the type of battery you have


there you have it, it's to easy to just blame the battery.

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Ever consider the auto salvage yards? Nearly new batteries for $30-$35.



I must admit that I am cheap..I will look!




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My 2 cents,,, Optima is what I have had in my race car going on 4 years, no issue, I run 2 , with an alternator!
Optima along with several other battery names have been made now by Johnson controls for @ 4 years now, All of Autozone are as well as Advances, and most of Orielys, Altho they do have some Excide batteries.
All of Sears are Johnsons controls ,Walmart has a combo of excide, and Johnson control.
Only a few batteries makes are made here in the USA, All of Johnson Controls are made either mexico, or china/japan!
I believe the Excide Brothers may still be in jail??
Be that as it may, most batteries have a life of # 3 - 4 years!
Acid or glass mate, or gel. batteries can be influence by alternators issues, or battery drain issues, the more the battery goes dead by improper wiring issues and such it takes life out of the battery,
Improper charging technics is the biggest issue I have seen , use the correct charger for the type of battery you have




Johnson controls has several plants in the us that make batteries, at least 4-5 that I can think of.


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My 2 cents,,, Optima is what I have had in my race car going on 4 years, no issue, I run 2 , with an alternator!
Optima along with several other battery names have been made now by Johnson controls for @ 4 years now, All of Autozone are as well as Advances, and most of Orielys, Altho they do have some Excide batteries.
All of Sears are Johnsons controls ,Walmart has a combo of excide, and Johnson control.
Only a few batteries makes are made here in the USA, All of Johnson Controls are made either mexico, or china/japan!
I believe the Excide Brothers may still be in jail??
Be that as it may, most batteries have a life of # 3 - 4 years!
Acid or glass mate, or gel. batteries can be influence by alternators issues, or battery drain issues, the more the battery goes dead by improper wiring issues and such it takes life out of the battery,
Improper charging technics is the biggest issue I have seen , use the correct charger for the type of battery you have




My first optima lasted me 12 years. I may have squeezed the last year out of it though. So I bought a new one and took a "bad" one that was offered to me from the store also. The "bad" one was 2 years old at the time. I charged the "BAD" one with my AGM charger and well one year later I have 2 good Optimas. I do believe there had been a quality control issue but not nearly as bad as people think.

Re: Now my Optima pooped out.. [Re: dezduster] #1414834
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Great..... read this post two days ago, and now the Optima's in my truck are dead! Thinking I installed them in 09 or 10.

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