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Fluidampr with Eagle Crank Problem
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03/02/13 05:44 PM
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I went to put on a Fluidampr (bought used) for my 440/505 build. I put the damper on and found that it does not go on the crank snout deep enough. After some researching I see the snout on the Eagle crank is about 1.75" while a stock 440 crank is around 2.5". So I see my problem, but what do you guys do? Do you switch out the center of the Fluidampr? Looks like it needs to be about 3/4" shorter to work?
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Re: Fluidampr with Eagle Crank Problem
[Re: Clanton]
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03/02/13 06:15 PM
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The timing gear does go against the crank (bottomed out), but with it in that position its about an 1" too far out to line up the pulleys
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Re: Fluidampr with Eagle Crank Problem
[Re: Clanton]
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03/02/13 06:31 PM
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I suppose having it milled would work, but just wondering if there is a different hub out there..
No, I do not know of anybody who could do that..
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Re: Fluidampr with Eagle Crank Problem
[Re: Clanton]
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03/02/13 06:48 PM
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No part number.. here is a pic.. I would guess take an 1" off the snout it would work? but I don't know..
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Re: Fluidampr with Eagle Crank Problem
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03/02/13 07:38 PM
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I have the damper itself and it is a fluidampr, I just unbolted the hub from the damper. It is suppose to be for a 440, and I think it would work fine with a standard 440 steel crank, its just I have an eagle crank..
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Re: Fluidampr with Eagle Crank Problem
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03/02/13 07:55 PM
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IMO too much.. about an 1" It is also bottomed out on the crank at that point as well and cannot go on anymore.
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Re: Fluidampr with Eagle Crank Problem
[Re: Mopar_Mike]
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03/02/13 08:57 PM
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I went to put on a Fluidampr (bought used) for my 440/505 build. I put the damper on and found that it does not go on the crank snout deep enough. After some researching I see the snout on the Eagle crank is about 1.75" while a stock 440 crank is around 2.5". So I see my problem, but what do you guys do? Do you switch out the center of the Fluidampr? Looks like it needs to be about 3/4" shorter to work?
Thanks.
Are you sure that your crank is going to be ok? It may be possible that you are attempting to shoot yourself in the foot.
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Re: Fluidampr with Eagle Crank Problem
[Re: Mopar-Al]
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03/02/13 10:36 PM
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Well, the reason why I asked was, I haven't never had to use any type of special cut balancer on a b rb block fit. I have a fluid on my eagle crank and it fits, so does a stock damper. I'm wondering if you got something wrong with that 1 particular crank. I do not claim to no it all, or even close, but I do know that I hadn't seen that big of a difference on a crank snout as of yet.
I have used tons of Eagle Cranks and never had any dimensional problems as you suggest(OP), unless I am misunderstanding what you are trying to do.
As for a suggestion, I use nothing but ATI dampers on all race(even hot street)builds.. Sure there are cheaper alternatives, but I stick to what works for me...
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Re: Fluidampr with Eagle Crank Problem
[Re: Mopar_Mike]
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03/02/13 10:40 PM
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I have a Fluidamper on my Eagle crank with no issues  But I don't remember it being a two piece unit though,in fact I have never seen one in the last four I installed on engines I have built  Gus 
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Re: Fluidampr with Eagle Crank Problem
[Re: Mopar_Mike]
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03/02/13 11:01 PM
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The timing gear does go against the crank (bottomed out), but with it in that position its about an 1" too far out to line up the pulleys
Are you saying the chain is not in line or that the
damper sticks out to far... if the cam lobes line up
with the lifters and the chain is straight then its
the damper.... as said already both the BB and SB fluid
units I have are 1 piece(might have to call them)
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Re: Fluidampr with Eagle Crank Problem
[Re: Mopar_Mike]
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03/02/13 11:28 PM
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No part number.. here is a pic.. I would guess take an 1" off the snout it would work? but I don't know..
Wondering why there is 2 oil lip seal grooves on the hub? Is that hub a 6 bolt pulley system? A bb chevy is 3 for the most part, but has about the same ID diameter, just a few thou smaller.
With race season right on us, I sure hope you can get the 2 issues sorted out quick.
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