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Sealing pinhole in aluminum heads #1208309 04/02/12 03:32 PM 04/02/12 03:32 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 854 Bloomingdale , OH super451b OP super stock
super451b OP super stock Joined: May 2003 Posts: 854 Bloomingdale , OH	Hi guys, I've got a pinhole in the intake port on one of my EZ heads, that's leaking water. Is there a good sealer that will fix this ? Or will it have to be welded? Thanks, Wade

Re: Sealing pinhole in aluminum heads [Re: super451b] #1208310 04/02/12 03:40 PM 04/02/12 03:40 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	There is a ceramic block sealer thats real good... and lasts... you can get it at the auto parts store

Re: Sealing pinhole in aluminum heads [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1208311 04/02/12 03:54 PM 04/02/12 03:54 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 854 Bloomingdale , OH super451b OP super stock
super451b OP super stock Joined: May 2003 Posts: 854 Bloomingdale , OH	Is that the kind that you pour in the radiator? I have the heads off right now.

Re: Sealing pinhole in aluminum heads [Re: super451b] #1208312 04/02/12 04:43 PM 04/02/12 04:43 PM
Joined: May 2007 Posts: 1,443 Maryland D Dads426 pro stock
Dads426 pro stock D Joined: May 2007 Posts: 1,443 Maryland	Quote: Is that the kind that you pour in the radiator? I have the heads off right now. Yes, you pour it in the radiator and there are specific instructions for getting heat in the motor for making it work. Off the car I think welding or metal stitching are your only options for an area under pressure. 2012 422 Allstars NSS Champion 2013 422 Allstars NSS Champion 2014 422 Allstars NSS Champion

Re: Sealing pinhole in aluminum heads [Re: super451b] #1208313 04/02/12 06:53 PM 04/02/12 06:53 PM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA B G Racing master
B G Racing master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA	If it's just one pinhole,rub some LabMetal or similar in it and lightly peen it over.Then when engine is run(heat cycled) pour some Dyke Sealer or similar in the cooling system.Use as instructed. [IMG]http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq21/ajcasini/max_zpsdppwd9km.jpg[/IMG]

Re: Sealing pinhole in aluminum heads [Re: B G Racing] #1208314 04/02/12 07:14 PM 04/02/12 07:14 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 854 Bloomingdale , OH super451b OP super stock
super451b OP super stock Joined: May 2003 Posts: 854 Bloomingdale , OH	Thanks guys, while I was looking around on the web , I found this : http://www.angelfire.com/biz/sealall/ Has anyone here ever tried it ?

Re: Sealing pinhole in aluminum heads [Re: Dads426] #1208315 04/02/12 07:15 PM 04/02/12 07:15 PM
Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,407 Ambridge, Pa. R rickraw top fuel
rickraw top fuel R Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,407 Ambridge, Pa.	head is off. repair it right. get it welded.

Re: Sealing pinhole in aluminum heads [Re: rickraw] #1208316 04/02/12 08:10 PM 04/02/12 08:10 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,618 long island NY A Ari440 master
Ari440 master A Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,618 long island NY	Quote: head is off. repair it right. get it welded. the last thing you want to do is pull the head off if it leaks again 1.39 9.85 - 137 mph

Re: Sealing pinhole in aluminum heads [Re: super451b] #1208317 04/02/12 08:21 PM 04/02/12 08:21 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,544 Syracuse,NY CompWedgeEngines master
CompWedgeEngines master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,544 Syracuse,NY	Seal All is an excellent product if used right.Its not cheap, but it will work perfectly. Many shops that do extensive porting use it on everything they touch. NASCAR used it as well. RIP Monte Smith Your work is a reflection of yourself, autograph it with quality. WD for Diamond Pistons,Sidewinder cylinder heads, Wiseco, K1 rods and cranks,BAM lifters, Morel lifters, Molnar Technologies, Harland Sharp, Pro Gear, Cometic, King Engine Bearings and many others.

Re: Sealing pinhole in aluminum heads [Re: CompWedgeEngines] #1208318 04/03/12 12:53 AM 04/03/12 12:53 AM
Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 49 Sterling Heights, MI M MCHBOB member
MCHBOB member M Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 49 Sterling Heights, MI	If you go with a sealer and it doesnt work.Your gonna give the guy that will try welding it up a nightmare Hence why i said TRY.Hes gonna fight welding it up with that crap contaminating the weld.It'll go something like weld grind weld grind weld grind pressure test weld grind pressure test weld grind.Add a sealer you can turn a 5 min weld repair into a whole days job If the head is off why would you not weld it????

Re: Sealing pinhole in aluminum heads [Re: MCHBOB] #1208319 04/03/12 01:20 AM 04/03/12 01:20 AM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,091 Delray beach, Florida P Performance Only top fuel
Performance Only top fuel P Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,091 Delray beach, Florida	i was thinking the same thing. i wouldn't put it back together just to put a sealer in it. weld it now and forget about it. machine shop owner and engine builder

Re: Sealing pinhole in aluminum heads [Re: Performance Only] #1208320 04/03/12 02:36 AM 04/03/12 02:36 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md 3 383man Too Many Posts
383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	By all means if you have it apart I would just weld it now. Ron

Re: Sealing pinhole in aluminum heads [Re: super451b] #1208321 04/03/12 10:20 AM 04/03/12 10:20 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Is that the kind that you pour in the radiator? I have the heads off right now. Since you said the head is off.... have it welded

Re: Sealing pinhole in aluminum heads [Re: super451b] #1208322 04/03/12 12:30 PM 04/03/12 12:30 PM
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mopar400 member Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 164 Savannah, GA	1965 Fury II 1970 Challenger 440, 509 cam, 11:1 w/ 452 iron heads, 6.99 1/8, 11.29@ 120mph 1/4 (1999 Magnolia Drag strip track champion) 1992 Jeep XJ Crawler

Re: Sealing pinhole in aluminum heads [Re: super451b] #1208323 04/03/12 12:50 PM 04/03/12 12:50 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,544 Syracuse,NY CompWedgeEngines master
CompWedgeEngines master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,544 Syracuse,NY	It seems that a couple of people are confused with the Seal All process. Its not something you pour into a engine that is already together. This is a sealer thats done with the head already off.Two totally different process'.Most often used to protect proting jobs and so forth, and it DOES work, IF done right.This isnt a can in the radiator fix. I would tend to agree, if its off already, then weld it. I answered the question that was asked. I was assuming there may be a reason the OP didnt want to, or possibly couldnt weld it. Dont know for sure. RIP Monte Smith Your work is a reflection of yourself, autograph it with quality. WD for Diamond Pistons,Sidewinder cylinder heads, Wiseco, K1 rods and cranks,BAM lifters, Morel lifters, Molnar Technologies, Harland Sharp, Pro Gear, Cometic, King Engine Bearings and many others.

Re: Sealing pinhole in aluminum heads [Re: CompWedgeEngines] #1208324 04/03/12 01:14 PM 04/03/12 01:14 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 684 St. Charles, MO. S Slingshot383 mopar
Slingshot383 mopar S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 684 St. Charles, MO.	Devcon or Hysol EA934, both 2 part epoxies with aluminum powder in the base. Both high-temp, aviation grade products. Once cured, they are harder than the aluminum. 1994 Undercover Chassis 125" altered stack injected big block, soon blown and injected Member of The Torque and Recoil Club

Re: Sealing pinhole in aluminum heads [Re: Slingshot383] #1208325 04/03/12 01:25 PM 04/03/12 01:25 PM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA B G Racing master
B G Racing master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA	If it has already been run and sealer and other contaminates are present then you maybe in for a PIA weld job.If it's a thin area you may create a bigger project. [IMG]http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq21/ajcasini/max_zpsdppwd9km.jpg[/IMG]

Re: Sealing pinhole in aluminum heads [Re: B G Racing] #1208326 04/03/12 02:47 PM 04/03/12 02:47 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,174 PA. pittsburghracer "Little"John
pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,174 PA.	I saved this post from speed talk after reading it just in case I had one that I couldn't weld up. http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=26040 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: Sealing pinhole in aluminum heads [Re: pittsburghracer] #1208327 04/03/12 07:25 PM 04/03/12 07:25 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 854 Bloomingdale , OH super451b OP super stock
super451b OP super stock Joined: May 2003 Posts: 854 Bloomingdale , OH	Quote: I saved this post from speed talk after reading it just in case I had one that I couldn't weld up. http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=26040 Thats why I asked about alternatives to welding. The hole is in a very tough spot to get to , at least with the equipment that I have. It's right where the port floor starts to transition into the short side radius. I have everything here, that I would need , to try the seal-all. Cost is also a factor. The plant that I worked at closed last fall and I havent been able to find anything that comes close to what I was making before, so my race car budget is substantially less than it used to be.

Re: Sealing pinhole in aluminum heads [Re: super451b] #1208328 04/03/12 08:48 PM 04/03/12 08:48 PM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA B G Racing master
B G Racing master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA	Quote: Quote: I saved this post from speed talk after reading it just in case I had one that I couldn't weld up. http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=26040 Thats why I asked about alternatives to welding. The hole is in a very tough spot to get to , at least with the equipment that I have. It's right where the port floor starts to transition into the short side radius. I have everything here, that I would need , to try the seal-all. Cost is also a factor. The plant that I worked at closed last fall and I havent been able to find anything that comes close to what I was making before, so my race car budget is substantially less than it used to be. Wade,bring it buy the shop and we will take a look at it and try to fix it for you,no charge [IMG]http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq21/ajcasini/max_zpsdppwd9km.jpg[/IMG]

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