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Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99 [Re: Chris'sBarracuda] #1140853
12/23/11 09:03 AM
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I have encountered other racers oil on the track at 150+ speeds and I don't like it one bit

If it's a race car PUT A DIAPER ON IT....

Rickster

Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99 [Re: CHAPPER] #1140854
12/23/11 11:28 AM
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If this is the case, anybody want to buy a iron headed 448 incher?

I have a 225/6 I can just build. Sure would be less hassle




GREG,,,,???..!!!..it looks like a business opportunity to me!!!
Build DIAPERS,,,I'm sure you have a backload inventory of gaskets..get to work,,,expand your business,,make diapers for all of us!! I will let you use my car for a pattern...just come on down..




Fred I'd rather sell gaskets & seals to keep oil off the track
I may take you up on your offer to visit and have a sometime though

I know it's safer to have one but can't imagine the headaches I'd encounter. BB A Body with 2 #12 lines from the pan, center link through pan and the K member right close to the pan among other clearance & fitment issues.
Can you get a zipper on one to access the drain plug when changing the oil?

Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99 [Re: roadhazard] #1140855
12/23/11 12:23 PM
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Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99 [Re: rickstershemi] #1140856
12/23/11 12:31 PM
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If it's a race car PUT A DIAPER ON IT....

Rickster




You guys that make statements like that make me laugh. Its the one size fits all theory."I've got one on mine so everybody should be able to fit one on" When this diaper stuff came up originally about 4yrs ago,I took my car over to get the cage recertified. I told the tech director to get down and look and see what he thought about putting a diaper on an A-body with a hemi in it. He got up off the ground with his head shaking. He said no way. Why do you think the west coast hemi team petitioned NHRA to let them put racks on there SS/AH cars? Because it would have been a nightmare with the drag link,#12 oil lines,the headers lay right next to the block and the simple fact there is no room.Right after the NHRA refused to let them alter the steering,they dropped the diaper rule.There were even some chevys complaining because on certain yrs the drag link is right next to the pan. Ya, having a diaper is a great idea, but on some cars is just isn't feasible.

Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99 [Re: OUTLAWSSAA] #1140857
12/23/11 01:03 PM
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Its been a long time sense I had a old race car (dragster guy now for long time) so just asking how hard would it be to put a containment pan under your car?Would it be too low to the ground?I think the rule is two inch lip and from the damper to the mid plate and from rail to rail.I have seen some killer pans on some chassis cars but don't know if this would be a option for you guys.


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Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99 [Re: old_racer] #1140858
12/23/11 01:14 PM
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I mounted mine to tabs on the block rather than to the header bolts. Keeps it tighter to the block.
this is a DRE bought about 5 years ago.
What a waist of a chrome pan

Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99 [Re: RADAMX] #1140859
12/23/11 01:26 PM
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I like the idea of a diaper.... I just don't have any idea how I will get one to work with my junk. My crossover pipe and turbo manifold REST against the side of the block. You couldn't get a .020" feeler gauge between the pipe and the block. And I don't think a pan running under the stock Dakota truck frame is gonna work either.

Now what? LOL

I guess I now have an 11.0 truck.

Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99 [Re: Duner] #1140860
12/23/11 01:53 PM
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I like the idea of a diaper.... I just don't have any idea how I will get one to work with my junk. My crossover pipe and turbo manifold REST against the side of the block. You couldn't get a .020" feeler gauge between the pipe and the block. And I don't think a pan running under the stock Dakota truck frame is gonna work either.

Now what? LOL

I guess I now have an 11.0 truck.




Come down to Tucson IHRA you don't even need a license untill 8.99

Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99 [Re: RADAMX] #1140861
12/23/11 02:09 PM
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I just might do that.

Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99 [Re: OUTLAWSSAA] #1140862
12/23/11 02:55 PM
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If it's a race car PUT A DIAPER ON IT....

Rickster




You guys that make statements like that make me laugh. Its the one size fits all theory."I've got one on mine so everybody should be able to fit one on" When this diaper stuff came up originally about 4yrs ago,I took my car over to get the cage recertified. I told the tech director to get down and look and see what he thought about putting a diaper on an A-body with a hemi in it. He got up off the ground with his head shaking. He said no way. Why do you think the west coast hemi team petitioned NHRA to let them put racks on there SS/AH cars? Because it would have been a nightmare with the drag link,#12 oil lines,the headers lay right next to the block and the simple fact there is no room.Right after the NHRA refused to let them alter the steering,they dropped the diaper rule.There were even some chevys complaining because on certain yrs the drag link is right next to the pan. Ya, having a diaper is a great idea, but on some cars is just isn't feasible.




Well said Outlaw... Try putting one of them on a Fairlane with a FE in it and big tube headers.....


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Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99 [Re: RADAMX] #1140863
12/23/11 03:32 PM
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I like the idea of a diaper.... I just don't have any idea how I will get one to work with my junk. My crossover pipe and turbo manifold REST against the side of the block. You couldn't get a .020" feeler gauge between the pipe and the block. And I don't think a pan running under the stock Dakota truck frame is gonna work either.

Now what? LOL

I guess I now have an 11.0 truck.




Come down to Tucson IHRA you don't even need a license untill 8.99


Now THAT`S what I`m talkin bout..........


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Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99 [Re: OUTLAWSSAA] #1140864
12/23/11 04:39 PM
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If it's a race car PUT A DIAPER ON IT....

Rickster




You guys that make statements like that make me laugh. Its the one size fits all theory."I've got one on mine so everybody should be able to fit one on" When this diaper stuff came up originally about 4yrs ago,I took my car over to get the cage recertified. I told the tech director to get down and look and see what he thought about putting a diaper on an A-body with a hemi in it. He got up off the ground with his head shaking. He said no way. Why do you think the west coast hemi team petitioned NHRA to let them put racks on there SS/AH cars? Because it would have been a nightmare with the drag link,#12 oil lines,the headers lay right next to the block and the simple fact there is no room.Right after the NHRA refused to let them alter the steering,they dropped the diaper rule.There were even some chevys complaining because on certain yrs the drag link is right next to the pan. Ya, having a diaper is a great idea, but on some cars is just isn't feasible.




i can't even imagine putting a diaper on my dart, guess if they enforce that its gonna be a street only car.


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69 Roadrunner 511 six pack 10.92 drive to track street car
Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99 [Re: 68 HEMI GTS] #1140865
12/23/11 05:46 PM
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If it's a race car PUT A DIAPER ON IT....

Rickster




You guys that make statements like that make me laugh. Its the one size fits all theory."I've got one on mine so everybody should be able to fit one on" When this diaper stuff came up originally about 4yrs ago,I took my car over to get the cage recertified. I told the tech director to get down and look and see what he thought about putting a diaper on an A-body with a hemi in it. He got up off the ground with his head shaking. He said no way. Why do you think the west coast hemi team petitioned NHRA to let them put racks on there SS/AH cars? Because it would have been a nightmare with the drag link,#12 oil lines,the headers lay right next to the block and the simple fact there is no room.Right after the NHRA refused to let them alter the steering,they dropped the diaper rule.There were even some chevys complaining because on certain yrs the drag link is right next to the pan. Ya, having a diaper is a great idea, but on some cars is just isn't feasible.




i can't even imagine putting a diaper on my dart, guess if they enforce that its gonna be a street only car.




Maybe you need to be Just a street car. Pretty soon Track liability will catch up with the rules.

Put a diaper on the 10 second Hemroid, I know of 3 outlaw 68 Hemi cars that have Diapers on them.
one with draglink bar through the pan.


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Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99 [Re: tboomer] #1140866
12/23/11 07:11 PM
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Division One and a notice on our local tracks website, any car running 9.99 and quicker requires a diaper. especially participants in the Summit Racing Series.


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Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99 [Re: 11secdart] #1140867
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especially participants in the Summit Racing Series.



what, they blow up the most?


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Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99 [Re: maximum entropy] #1140868
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we need more outlaw tracks


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Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99 [Re: dusturbd340W5] #1140869
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and we wonder why there is so much street racing.


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Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99 [Re: dusturbd340W5] #1140870
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I bought a $90 from jegs last year an made it work. I cant see spending hundreds of dollars on something like that.


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Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99 [Re: 572_dup2] #1140871
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No one should be against doing everything we can to maximize safety.....but, you've got to be practical. We could all build our cars to have the protection of a 40 ton WWII Sherman Tank, and it would be safe, but would it be practical? Is the cost and the hassle worth the result? With a diaper on a stock type, N/A car, I personally don't think so. And, I am not a johnny come lately at this...I've been doing it for over forty years. I have a good cage, good car, and my stuff is up to snuff. But, you are never going to make what we do 100% safe.

Very, very seldom do you see a prepared, Stock/SS type N/A car oil the track down. It rarely, rarely happens.

Who oils the track are the guys who have the money for a 200 shot of nitrous but not enough for good stuff in the motor. Go to any local track on a Saturday night, and you'll see cars in the lanes that you would be scared to sit in while it was standing still...but it gets through tech. Or, a Pro Mod type guy who just don't have quite enough money to do what he's doing, and makes up for it with nitrous or blowers. And, of course, at the big races, the fuel boys.

Call me too cynical, but this is what I see. Once diapers are mandated, it will be discovered that your front runner tires have an adverse effect by UV rays and have to be replaced every two years, or your braided fuel lines will need to be replaced every six months, or.....

Just another way to beat money out of everyone they can.


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Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99 [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1140872
12/23/11 11:32 PM
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I am with you MR P I would hate to try and put depends on my 69 dart.


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This rule i can agree with, i was planning on putting one on my bracket car.
Kevin




Weather I agree or dis-agree I'm getting REALLY FEED UP
with that useless bunch of money grabbing A$$ holes
telling me what I have to do all the time with my
money... thank GOD I dont need a SFI one where it
needs to be re-certed every year... I guess I wont
attend any NHRA events
FLAME ON guys... I dont care




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