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Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99 [Re: 70dusterjohn] #1140813
12/21/11 08:54 PM
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The only other thing I can suggest is to buy a cheapo diaper and make it fit. I know of one racer that sliced and diced one and it is half back together with velcro holding it up. Tech guy looks from above and sees diaper straps and says OK. Rulebook doesn't say anything about modifying them, or requiring that they work.

Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99 [Re: 70dusterjohn] #1140814
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contact D R E they can even help with custom stuff on diapers,
as for me I will have one , It's one of those rules they shouldn't have to have , but with the speeds getting ever faster, and the use of sythetic oils, we as racers should have been doing this on our own and not have to have it pushed on us! Maybe some of these crashed drag cars and injured racers, never would have happened?
just a thought

Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99 [Re: dennismopar73] #1140815
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This rule i can agree with, i was planning on putting one on my bracket car.
Kevin

Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99 [Re: roadhazard] #1140816
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If this is the case, anybody want to buy a iron headed 448 incher?

I have a 225/6 I can just build. Sure would be less hassle




GREG,,,,???..!!!..it looks like a business opportunity to me!!!
Build DIAPERS,,,I'm sure you have a backload inventory of gaskets..get to work,,,expand your business,,make diapers for all of us!! I will let you use my car for a pattern...just come on down..


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Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99 [Re: 604 Hemi GTX] #1140817
12/21/11 10:15 PM
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This rule i can agree with, i was planning on putting one on my bracket car.
Kevin




Weather I agree or dis-agree I'm getting REALLY FEED UP
with that useless bunch of money grabbing A$$ holes
telling me what I have to do all the time with my
money... thank GOD I dont need a SFI one where it
needs to be re-certed every year... I guess I wont
attend any NHRA events
FLAME ON guys... I dont care

Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99 [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1140818
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this topic cracks me up.. in the grand scheme of things with all the other money tied up in your cars, whats another $200 for your protection and the protection of other?...and the time it will save in clean ups. plus synthetic oil is a [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] to clean up...its like bitching about having to buy a helmit, why should anyone else care if you bash your skull while crashing? its for the greater good.. heres some help.
Ram Jet Racing will be offering custom and universal engine diapers at a discounted price. These are top quality NHRA approved engine diapers.You can contact Adam at S&M MOTORSPORTS (513-236-2355) to place your orders.
Universal diaper-140.00
Custom diaper- 200.00

Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99 [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1140819
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I'm just going to build a bellypan out of left over stuff I have here.


"Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind"


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'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
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Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99 [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1140820
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On one hand, there's no such thing as "too many" safety devices....within reason for the car's ET/Speed.

I haven't seen too many oil downs at the bracket level around here in the last couple of years.

That said, the rule making them required for S/ST (an entry level class, by the way...hahahaha) makes S/ST for us a NO GO for this year. If/when they require one for a 10-sec bracket car, we will slow it down to the low-11's...or put it back on the street. That means we're NOT spending $2000 on a Dana, $2500 on a t-brake 727/converter which is money NOT being spent with those vendors. So in our case, everyone loses.

Reason it's deal breaker for us is...NO WAY am I getting a diaper on the Duster with a drag link through the pan and 1 7/8" Hookers that nearly touch the pan in 2 places are in the way of everything.

Therefore, a tube k-member, motor plate, R&P steering and coil overs, new headers and oil pan would be required. At $5000-$6000-PLUS THAT aint happening. OR, MAYBE we could make it work with a motor plate, new oil pan and custom fenderwell headers. That alone is a $1500-$2000 fix. Screw that.

NHRA is doing all they can to reduce car counts even further. This might have been a better idea when there is some economic stability in this country and people are back to work.

Of course to complete my RANT, if it were up to me, S/ST would be limted to 130-or less MPH, with NO electronics, OEM front end and OEM rear frame rails and limited to a max 10.5" wide tire. You know, ENTRY LEVEL. The class has really become Stupid STreet allowing tube frame 150+ mph cars.

Thanks for listening, I'm done!

Merry Christmas!

Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99 [Re: cudadoug] #1140821
12/21/11 10:53 PM
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On one hand, there's no such thing as "too many" safety devices....within reason for the car's ET/Speed.

I haven't seen too many oil downs at the bracket level around here in the last couple of years.

That said, the rule making them required for S/ST (an entry level class, by the way...hahahaha) makes S/ST for us a NO GO for this year. If/when they require one for a 10-sec bracket car, we will slow it down to the low-11's...or put it back on the street. That means we're NOT spending $2000 on a Dana, $2500 on a t-brake 727/converter which is money NOT being spent with those vendors. So in our case, everyone loses.

Reason it's deal breaker for us is...NO WAY am I getting a diaper on the Duster with a drag link through the pan and 1 7/8" Hookers that nearly touch the pan in 2 places are in the way of everything.

Therefore, a tube k-member, motor plate, R&P steering and coil overs, new headers and oil pan would be required. At $5000-$6000-PLUS THAT aint happening. OR, MAYBE we could make it work with a motor plate, new oil pan and custom fenderwell headers. That alone is a $1500-$2000 fix. Screw that.

NHRA is doing all they can to reduce car counts even further. This might have been a better idea when there is some economic stability in this country and people are back to work.

Of course to complete my RANT, if it were up to me, S/ST would be limted to 130-or less MPH, with NO electronics, OEM front end and OEM rear frame rails and limited to a max 10.5" wide tire. You know, ENTRY LEVEL. The class has really become Stupid STreet allowing tube frame 150+ mph cars.

Thanks for listening, I'm done!

Merry Christmas!



just build a belly pan.... problem solved

Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99 [Re: mcat4321] #1140822
12/21/11 11:07 PM
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Belly pan?

The belly pan must extend
from framerail to framerail and extend forward of the harmonic
balancer and to the rear of the engine block and must incorporate a
minimum 2-inch-high lip on all sides unless specified in Class
Requirements. Minimum number of slots or holes in the walls to
clear frame, steering, or lines permitted. A nonflammable, oil-
absorbent liner mandatory inside of retention device.

Funny you say that. I was under the car for 2 hours with cardboard and scissors when I heard about it last year. NO GO with an OEM k-member!

Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99 [Re: WadeMetzinger] #1140823
12/21/11 11:20 PM
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I'm sure all these people that are too lazy to drain their antifreeze before they go to the track will be all over installing diapers.


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Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99 [Re: Evil Spirit] #1140824
12/21/11 11:36 PM
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well it looks like getting ride of my ride may have been a good thing NHRA is getting worst by the day.
I have been looking at a bike to get back to going fast on the cheap and it keeps looking better and better.


70 duster full chassis super pro 416 CNC Indybrock heads 727 w/brake

best so far 1.212 60 6.219 in 1/8 at 110.88 9.768 at 137.81 1/4
Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99 [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1140825
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This rule i can agree with, i was planning on putting one on my bracket car.
Kevin




Weather I agree or dis-agree I'm getting REALLY FEED UP
with that useless bunch of money grabbing A$$ holes
telling me what I have to do all the time with my
money... thank GOD I dont need a SFI one where it
needs to be re-certed every year... I guess I wont
attend any NHRA events
FLAME ON guys... I dont care



I her ya Mike and agree.............when they ask me how fast my car goes I`m gonna tell em it went 11.20`s last time out and that I just freshoned it up and am hopeing for 11.00 flat.


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Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99 [Re: Thumperdart] #1140826
12/21/11 11:40 PM
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summit diaper 139.00 jegs 80.00 with shipping on sale prices r in racer program pricing!!!!!!not sfi approved nhra only

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Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99 [Re: pattyboy 572] #1140827
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whats gunna happen first time someone throws a rod through a diaper and oils down the trak,KEVLAR?

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Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99 [Re: bonefish] #1140828
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If you go on yellow Bullet and search you find some good threads on the belly pans. AND you be surprised the NHRA seems to accept a lot less than you read in the rule book about a belly pan. Also on here if you look in the Silverfish progress/chassis build thread there is a pic of a pretty nice belly pan, also Bigtime bob has one on his car. Hey look this really is a Pain but if you kick a rod or whatever, you prob be very happy you or the guy in the other lane had one.


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Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99 [Re: n20mstr] #1140829
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I was hoping for a street car like my 63 I dont have to use one. I mean I only race a few times a year mostly at T & T's as I enjoy running the car every now and then. But I drive it on the street 99% of the time so I hope they dont make me put one on now that I have hit the high 10's. I will do what I have to so I can still race it a few times a year but I wont put one on my 63 unless I have too. Ron

Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99 [Re: 383man] #1140830
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Why is everyone making this out to be a big deal?
#1 saves down time
#2 save your car
#3 save your guys car next to you
#4 some tracks have been awarding you if you run one anyways
#5 it is a smart thing to have, like it or not.

Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99 [Re: WadeMetzinger] #1140831
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I know they are a pain in the butt,but the gain in safety out weighs the pain in the but factor.A good friend of mine broke a rod going threw the traps put two holes in the block you could put your fist threw at 150mph.No oil on the track and didn't wreck,saved a two hour cleanup,his car and maybe his life.Its a great Idea guys think about how many times you sat waiting on a clean up I bet you could cut that time by 75% or maybe a containment tray


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Re: NE1 else hearing that Diapers will be required on 10.99 [Re: julian2007] #1140832
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Even if it is an option for a slow pooch like mine...It isn't that bad of an idea. I can live with it. I have seen mid 11 second cars puke thier guts out on the track. So yeah...I will go ahead and get one..


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