Re: engine and tranny install
[Re: POS Dakota]
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08/16/11 12:49 PM
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So...about those carb lift plates...I look at them and I just think it would really suck to drop a motor and trans if it pulled out on ya.
Are they really that strong? Can I trust it? I've never tried one, but i think I am going to have to this time around since I will be doing it all myself.
I have used that plate on many different motors, like 15-20 motors with never a failure. As long as the the studs are bottemed in the manifold, they won't fail. Failure can occur if someone uses bolts that are not bottomed in the threads. It's the handiest most compact way to do it, way better than those cheap tilters sold by HF.
I have lifted International truck 392 and 404 gas engines which are much bigger than a 440. gETTING MY MONnIES WORTH OUT of that lift plate(it was free)
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Re: engine and tranny install
[Re: dOc …]
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08/16/11 12:52 PM
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This guy here appears to be a first-timer... lots of the cheapO cranes being tippy.... And AGAIN .. him being a newbie.
Then there's no better way to learn, then, is there. No coddling around here. You throw them into the deep end of the pool. They learn to swim REAL FAST.
GOIN' Commando .... a DOUBLE ...at choo' !
The prob is ... is that if the M/T combo gets-away from the OP ... it can damage the car SEVERELY ...or he can damage HISself !
same thing will happen if he drops just the engine or just the tranny. It would be assaine to do it separately.
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Re: engine and tranny install
[Re: dOc …]
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08/16/11 02:41 PM
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So...about those carb lift plates...I look at them and I just think it would really suck to drop a motor and trans if it pulled out on ya.
Are they really that strong? Can I trust it? I've never tried one, but i think I am going to have to this time around since I will be doing it all myself.
I am not a FAN of plates with alum intake manifolds. I have seen one pull-through the threads and badly damage the pan ...and have heard of others.
This is what I am deathly afraid of happening. I guess I can thread a bolt into the front and back of each head and use a 4 way chain...I always looked at those lift plates and felt funny.
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Re: engine and tranny install
[Re: Challenger 1]
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08/16/11 02:43 PM
08/16/11 02:43 PM
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So...about those carb lift plates...I look at them and I just think it would really suck to drop a motor and trans if it pulled out on ya.
Are they really that strong? Can I trust it? I've never tried one, but i think I am going to have to this time around since I will be doing it all myself.
I have used that plate on many different motors, like 15-20 motors with never a failure. As long as the the studs are bottemed in the manifold, they won't fail. Failure can occur if someone uses bolts that are not bottomed in the threads. It's the handiest most compact way to do it, way better than those cheap tilters sold by HF.
I have lifted International truck 392 and 404 gas engines which are much bigger than a 440. gETTING MY MONnIES WORTH OUT of that lift plate(it was free)
I am only lifting an iron headed smallblock....but the intake is aluminum...I take it I should get some grade 8s instead of using the normal carb studs if I do try this.
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Re: engine and tranny install
[Re: POS Dakota]
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08/16/11 02:49 PM
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So...about those carb lift plates...I look at them and I just think it would really suck to drop a motor and trans if it pulled out on ya.
Are they really that strong? Can I trust it? I've never tried one, but i think I am going to have to this time around since I will be doing it all myself.
I have used that plate on many different motors, like 15-20 motors with never a failure. As long as the the studs are bottemed in the manifold, they won't fail. Failure can occur if someone uses bolts that are not bottomed in the threads. It's the handiest most compact way to do it, way better than those cheap tilters sold by HF.
I have lifted International truck 392 and 404 gas engines which are much bigger than a 440. gETTING MY MONnIES WORTH OUT of that lift plate(it was free)
I am only lifting an iron headed smallblock....but the intake is aluminum...I take it I should get some grade 8s instead of using the normal carb studs if I do try this.
I always used the studs that were in the manifold even with iron heads, no grade 8 needed.
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Re: engine and tranny install
[Re: Challenger 1]
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08/16/11 02:57 PM
08/16/11 02:57 PM
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dOc …
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same thing will happen if he drops just the engine or just the tranny. It would be assaine to do it separately.
Chally_1 .... YOU of all people .. the 1 that appears to have two diff cranes/hoists ....one a ChinaMart and the other being a BlueBird
To even suggest that a first-timer would have the same probs or luck with doing an install both ways ? ....
A triple ..at choo' ! ..
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Re: engine and tranny install
[Re: POS Dakota]
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08/16/11 03:04 PM
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I am only lifting an iron headed smallblock....but the intake is aluminum...I take it I should get some grade 8s instead of using the normal carb studs if I do try this.
NEVER heard of a carb-studs breaking using a plate .... just saw the one pull-out what remained of the threads in the alum intake. I did not actually eyeball the actual failure in-progress ... but from what my Bud saw was the one fail ...and that failed the other one on that end ...THEN the other two went. It was lucky the engine was only a foot or so off the ground.
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Re: engine and tranny install
[Re: buildanother]
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08/16/11 04:11 PM
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You can place trans up in there first, put crossmember in and trans mount, and can leave floor jack under it until eng is dropped in. Have done it a few times.
I've done it like this and can then use a carb flange plate to install the engine without taking the hood off (worst part of the whole job), and I can do it all without help.
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Re: engine and tranny install
[Re: bonefish]
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08/17/11 12:01 PM
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get one of these,worth its weight in gold
Where and how muchos?
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Re: engine and tranny install
[Re: POS Dakota]
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08/17/11 12:26 PM
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get one of these,worth its weight in gold
Where and how muchos? [/quote the info is in the pic.on the tool.
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Re: engine and tranny install
[Re: Drip]
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08/21/11 11:17 PM
08/21/11 11:17 PM
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Thanks for all the help. Put it in with motor and tranny as a unit from the top. used the intake plate. Was accually pretty easy. Did it by myself. thanks again.
And you still have both arms and legs... I'm shocked!
Nice job and good to read you got it installed.
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