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Re: "C" clip eliminators. [Re: DoctorDiff] #934257 02/24/11 12:40 PM 02/24/11 12:40 PM
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,776 Ontario Canada M MattW master
MattW master M Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,776 Ontario Canada	Quote: Luckily, 8 3/4" housing ends fit OEM 9 1/4" brakes. Didn't Rick Ehrenburg used Ford end in his 64. It had an 83/4 and he Ford end and kept the existing brakes. He does not like the green bearing. He use a sealed tapered Ford bearing. Matt

Re: "C" clip eliminators. [Re: MattW] #934258 02/24/11 02:27 PM 02/24/11 02:27 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila OP master
Crizila OP master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Quote: Quote: Luckily, 8 3/4" housing ends fit OEM 9 1/4" brakes. Didn't Rick Ehrenburg used Ford end in his 64. It had an 83/4 and he Ford end and kept the existing brakes. He does not like the green bearing. He use a sealed tapered Ford bearing. Matt Doesn't answer your question, but here is a pic of how the axle tube transitions from 4" to 3" about mid way on the tube. I would guess you could use any end that is made for a 3" tube with a press in bearing? I would perfer to use my existing brakes ( 11"x 2 1/2") as they stop my heavy weight well and are well matched to the fronts. 6493968-axletube.jpg (179 downloads) Fastest 300

Re: "C" clip eliminators. [Re: MattW] #934259 02/24/11 02:32 PM 02/24/11 02:32 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,016 Polson, MT DoctorDiff master
DoctorDiff master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,016 Polson, MT	You can use your existing brakes as-is if you use standard 8 3/4" billet ends. You can also use hybrid 3.15" bore Mopar housing ends and a Timken set 20 or a Ford sealed ball wheel bearing if you want to bore the center out of your original backing plates. If a few people are interested, I could probably make a bolt-on C-clip eliminator/axle package for a 9 1/4" rearend. Contact info

Re: "C" clip eliminators. [Re: DoctorDiff] #934260 02/24/11 02:36 PM 02/24/11 02:36 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,969 Chandler, AZ Duner top fuel
Duner top fuel Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,969 Chandler, AZ	Like Adobe said above - there's a whole bunch of Dakota guys running the 9.25 that are skirting the rules that would be VERY interested in a bolt-on option. So far, none of us have broken axles or really torn up much more than the LSD unit.

Re: "C" clip eliminators. [Re: Duner] #934261 02/24/11 03:01 PM 02/24/11 03:01 PM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 193 MD A ADakotaRTGuy member
ADakotaRTGuy member A Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 193 MD	I took the hard road, Moser big ford ends, fit perfectly, Moser 31 spline axles, Moser Torino Budget brakes. Come on Dave, You know I did this on my truck already.

Re: "C" clip eliminators. [Re: DoctorDiff] #934262 02/24/11 05:00 PM 02/24/11 05:00 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila OP master
Crizila OP master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Quote: You can use your existing brakes as-is if you use standard 8 3/4" billet ends. You can also use hybrid 3.15" bore Mopar housing ends and a Timken set 20 or a Ford sealed ball wheel bearing if you want to bore the center out of your original backing plates. If a few people are interested, I could probably make a bolt-on C-clip eliminator/axle package for a 9 1/4" rearend. I'm interested! Fastest 300

Re: "C" clip eliminators. [Re: ADakotaRTGuy] #934263 02/24/11 08:26 PM 02/24/11 08:26 PM
Joined: May 2006 Posts: 1,260 New Mexico A Adobedude pro stock
Adobedude pro stock A Joined: May 2006 Posts: 1,260 New Mexico	Quote: I took the hard road, Moser big ford ends, fit perfectly, Moser 31 spline axles, Moser Torino Budget brakes. Come on Dave, You know I did this on my truck already. Two words...Hard & Road...LOL There's more than enough interest for c-clip eliminator axle packages. Last edited by Adobedude; 02/24/11 08:27 PM. 2001 Dodge Dakota 408 All Motor 11.27 @ 117.83 mph 2017 NM Mopar Challenge Series Champion.

Re: "C" clip eliminators. [Re: Adobedude] #934264 02/24/11 09:36 PM 02/24/11 09:36 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 10,201 Someplace you aren't S SomeCarGuy I Live Here
SomeCarGuy I Live Here S Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 10,201 Someplace you aren't	What is the cost of changing ends, etc on the 9.25? How close would you be to getting a Dana 60 and being done with the issue and have a better selling point if you decide to get out?

Re: "C" clip eliminators. [Re: DoctorDiff] #934265 02/24/11 10:12 PM 02/24/11 10:12 PM
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MattW master M Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,776 Ontario Canada	Quote: You can use your existing brakes as-is if you use standard 8 3/4" billet ends. You can also use hybrid 3.15" bore Mopar housing ends and a Timken set 20 or a Ford sealed ball wheel bearing if you want to bore the center out of your original backing plates. If a few people are interested, I could probably make a bolt-on C-clip eliminator/axle package for a 9 1/4" rearend. Would the timken # BR20 fit the original axles? I am thinking cheap. Weld ends on and press bearings on original axles and go.

Re: "C" clip eliminators. [Re: SomeCarGuy] #934266 02/24/11 11:43 PM 02/24/11 11:43 PM
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ADakotaRTGuy member A Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 193 MD	Quote: What is the cost of changing ends, etc on the 9.25? How close would you be to getting a Dana 60 and being done with the issue and have a better selling point if you decide to get out? If all you are doing is changing the ends and putting in new axles its not bad. 100 for the ends, 200 to cut off and weld new ends, then the cost of the axles. Assuming your brakes cross over.

Re: "C" clip eliminators. [Re: MattW] #934267 02/25/11 12:08 AM 02/25/11 12:08 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,016 Polson, MT DoctorDiff master
DoctorDiff master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,016 Polson, MT	Unfortunately, no unitized bearing would be a simple, press on deal. I looked at a few options today, and I think a 9.25" C-clip eliminator/axle package is do-able. I will start to chip away at the design. Contact info

Re: "C" clip eliminators. [Re: DoctorDiff] #934268 02/25/11 01:05 AM 02/25/11 01:05 AM
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bad360rt enthusiast B Joined: May 2006 Posts: 274 Greenville, SC	Quote: I looked at a few options today, and I think a 9.25" C-clip eliminator/axle package is do-able. I will start to chip away at the design.

Re: "C" clip eliminators. [Re: bad360rt] #934269 02/25/11 11:43 AM 02/25/11 11:43 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila OP master
Crizila OP master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Quote: Quote: I looked at a few options today, and I think a 9.25" C-clip eliminator/axle package is do-able. I will start to chip away at the design. Thanks!! Fastest 300

Re: "C" clip eliminators. [Re: DoctorDiff] #934270 02/25/11 03:21 PM 02/25/11 03:21 PM
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HR3128 mopar H Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 430 Michigan	Quote: You can use your existing brakes as-is if you use standard 8 3/4" billet ends. You can also use hybrid 3.15" bore Mopar housing ends and a Timken set 20 or a Ford sealed ball wheel bearing if you want to bore the center out of your original backing plates. If a few people are interested, I could probably make a bolt-on C-clip eliminator/axle package for a 9 1/4" rearend. Let me know when you get the package worked out. I will take one.

Re: "C" clip eliminators. [Re: HR3128] #934271 02/25/11 04:35 PM 02/25/11 04:35 PM
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,776 Ontario Canada M MattW master
MattW master M Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,776 Ontario Canada	Quote: Quote: You can use your existing brakes as-is if you use standard 8 3/4" billet ends. You can also use hybrid 3.15" bore Mopar housing ends and a Timken set 20 or a Ford sealed ball wheel bearing if you want to bore the center out of your original backing plates. If a few people are interested, I could probably make a bolt-on C-clip eliminator/axle package for a 9 1/4" rearend. Let me know when you get the package worked out. I will take one. X2 Seriously there are over a million of these rear ends out there, once the word gets out maybe spool, pro gears. i

Re: "C" clip eliminators. [Re: MattW] #934272 02/25/11 04:41 PM 02/25/11 04:41 PM
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ADakotaRTGuy member A Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 193 MD	A spool for bigger axles would be great.

Re: "C" clip eliminators. [Re: ADakotaRTGuy] #934273 02/25/11 06:38 PM 02/25/11 06:38 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,016 Polson, MT DoctorDiff master
DoctorDiff master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,016 Polson, MT	Do you think street/strip '97-'04 6 lug Dakota axles with 3" studs would be the most popular application? I assume everyone understands installing C-clip eliminators requires cutting the wheel bearing pockets off the housing, so nothing protrudes past the brake backing plates? Contact info

Re: "C" clip eliminators. [Re: DoctorDiff] #934274 02/25/11 07:26 PM 02/25/11 07:26 PM
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Adobedude pro stock A Joined: May 2006 Posts: 1,260 New Mexico	5 lug, one of the more common Dakota complaints is lack of wheels for a 6 lug. 2001 Dodge Dakota 408 All Motor 11.27 @ 117.83 mph 2017 NM Mopar Challenge Series Champion.

Re: "C" clip eliminators. [Re: Adobedude] #934275 02/26/11 12:55 AM 02/26/11 12:55 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,016 Polson, MT DoctorDiff master
DoctorDiff master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,016 Polson, MT	I could supply axles with dual 6 and 5 lug patterns. Contact info

Re: "C" clip eliminators. [Re: DoctorDiff] #934276 02/26/11 03:34 PM 02/26/11 03:34 PM
Joined: May 2006 Posts: 1,260 New Mexico A Adobedude pro stock
Adobedude pro stock A Joined: May 2006 Posts: 1,260 New Mexico	Sounds good...5 lug would seal the deal for a lot of guys. I have 6 lug Bogarts...But they were stupid expensive, and strip only. When we do find 6 lug race wheels, that's all they are, race only...Never street/strip. I could post up an info thread in a couple Dakota forums when you get more info 2001 Dodge Dakota 408 All Motor 11.27 @ 117.83 mph 2017 NM Mopar Challenge Series Champion.

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