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Re: is tti exaust worth the money [Re: Ramrod39] #922980
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Glad to see this thread. I am thinking of ordering the TTI system for by '65 B-body. I have to decide:

1) 2.5" or 3"? Motor is a 493, dynoed at 586 HP, 620 ft/lbs
2) H pipe or X pipe? What are the pros and cons of each?

Also, does anyone know if the US Cartool "bolt to the crossmember" driveshaft loop will work with the TTI exhaust (either H or X tube)?




Definatly 3"!!! A 3 inch over a 2.5 is actually 44% bigger That is a lot of flow man. The hp loss difference is quite substantial and At about the same money??? guess on your motor a 2.5" system will cost you 60 hp over open and a 3" will cost you 20 hp over open!!!

Re: is tti exaust worth the money [Re: Dodgem] #922981
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No way you lose 60hp on a 2 1/2 from an open. A 3" isn't necessary unless you have the engine built for all out performance.

Re: is tti exaust worth the money [Re: stumpy] #922982
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My last 2.5 dynomax on a 452 iron head moter duals cost me 5 tenths in the quarter a change to 3" gained me .4 and only cost .1 closed! you know not of what you speak



Once at a midus muffler 2.5 turbo muffler system that cost almost .9

Re: is tti exaust worth the money [Re: Dodgem] #922983
02/10/11 02:58 PM
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bang Problem solved. Ease of a 2.5 system and no power loss at the track.

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Re: is tti exaust worth the money [Re: Dodgem] #922984
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My last 2.5 dynomax on a 452 iron head moter duals cost me 5 tenths in the quarter a change to 3" gained me .4 and only cost .1 closed! you know not of what you speak



Once at a midus muffler 2.5 turbo muffler system that cost almost .9




I know exactly of what I speak. You seem to have missed the last part of my statement. There is no way a basic stock motor will lose 60 hp between open and 2 1/2" exhaust.

Re: is tti exaust worth the money [Re: stumpy] #922985
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My last 2.5 dynomax on a 452 iron head moter duals cost me 5 tenths in the quarter a change to 3" gained me .4 and only cost .1 closed! you know not of what you speak



Once at a midus muffler 2.5 turbo muffler system that cost almost .9





I know exactly of what I speak. You seem to have missed the last part of my statement. There is no way a basic stock motor will lose 60 hp between open and 2 1/2" exhaust.




Stumpy.. The poster said he had a 493... Over 500hp... not a basic stock motor....


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Re: is tti exaust worth the money [Re: Mr.Yuck] #922986
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bang Problem solved. Ease of a 2.5 system and no power loss at the track.




But I want it all everywhere!

Re: is tti exaust worth the money [Re: Boosted] #922987
02/10/11 04:15 PM
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I didn't see the quote and didn't realize the post had been hijacked.

Re: is tti exaust worth the money [Re: stumpy] #922988
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My last 2.5 dynomax on a 452 iron head moter duals cost me 5 tenths in the quarter a change to 3" gained me .4 and only cost .1 closed! you know not of what you speak



Once at a midus muffler 2.5 turbo muffler system that cost almost .9





I know exactly of what I speak. You seem to have missed the last part of my statement. There is no way a basic stock motor will lose 60 hp between open and 2 1/2" exhaust.




Stumpy.. The poster said he had a 493... Over 500hp... not a basic stock motor....





Please show me where on this post the op said that.




RAM ROD stated he had 493...not the OP. I think the OP's car is a fairly stock 440 and 3" would be over-kill.

Re: is tti exaust worth the money [Re: Ramrod39] #922989
02/10/11 05:37 PM
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Glad to see this thread. I am thinking of ordering the TTI system for by '65 B-body. I have to decide:

1) 2.5" or 3"? Motor is a 493, dynoed at 586 HP, 620 ft/lbs
2) H pipe or X pipe? What are the pros and cons of each?

Also, does anyone know if the US Cartool "bolt to the crossmember" driveshaft loop will work with the TTI exhaust (either H or X tube)?




go with the H pipe and 3 inch system. Its easier to put in a drive shaft loop with the H pipe.! H pipe also sounds better IMHO!

Re: is tti exaust worth the money [Re: 1962Savoy] #922990
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I say no. I have Hooker Super Comps on my Charger (that were free). I also have a cutom home built complete 3-1/2 X pipe exhaust with Series 40 Flowmaster reduced down to 3" after the mufflers up over the axle thru the stock tips. I re-used my stock tips & just cut the 2-1/4' portion of it off & welded the rest of the tip onto the 3" pipe with stock hangers. I made the X-pipe myself & used mandrel bends for everything. I have about $170.00 into my whole system.


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1974 Chrysler New Yorker 440
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Re: is tti exaust worth the money [Re: DennisH ] #922991
02/11/11 12:35 AM
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TTI are fine but, the day you get them mock them up on a head and make sure you can get a spark plug socket on all your plugs. Also make sure you have 3/8 inch minimum clearance between your spark plug boot and the header, 1/2 inch to spark plug it self. DO NOT WAIT PASSED THER 90 DAY period. I have bought many sets of TTIs, and have got more than one set that I had to beat up. My own fault, I waited too long. P.S. there isn't a spark plug boot made that can touch a header and not burn.

Re: is tti exaust worth the money [Re: bigblockbryan] #922992
02/11/11 08:24 AM
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Everyone I know who is running a TTI system is happy with it. I am only running the old TTI 3" H-Pipe system with the large super-turbo mufflers. This was after spending good money on a 3.5" muffler shop system with race bullet mufflers that dumped before the rear axle. The muffler shop system has badly crumpled bends, and the turn downs would blast debris off the ground right back up onto the rear axle and the bottom of the car. It also sounded like I was running uncapped mufflers, even after I installed the larger welded race mufflers. The TTI system fit, came with all the hangers, and reduced the exhaust noise to a tolarable level, and there was no difference in performance in my car which just runs 12.5 in Denver, but 11.80's @ 115 in Vegas.

I currently have Hooker 2" supercomp headers, but they don't fit worth a darn, and I can't get them to seal at the head. I may bite the bullet and get the TTI headers.

Re: is tti exaust worth the money [Re: 451Mopar] #922993
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Everyone I know who is running a TTI system is happy with it. I am only running the old TTI 3" H-Pipe system with the large super-turbo mufflers. This was after spending good money on a 3.5" muffler shop system with race bullet mufflers that dumped before the rear axle. The muffler shop system has badly crumpled bends, and the turn downs would blast debris off the ground right back up onto the rear axle and the bottom of the car. It also sounded like I was running uncapped mufflers, even after I installed the larger welded race mufflers. The TTI system fit, came with all the hangers, and reduced the exhaust noise to a tolarable level, and there was no difference in performance in my car which just runs 12.5 in Denver, but 11.80's @ 115 in Vegas.

I currently have Hooker 2" supercomp headers, but they don't fit worth a darn, and I can't get them to seal at the head. I may bite the bullet and get the TTI headers.




The trick with those POS super comps (I had three sets before TTI Heaven) is to get the good fel pro header gaskets coat liberally on both sides with Hi temp RTV. Then just snug up and wait 1 hour. Then tighten leave over night, tighten again heat cycle and tighten again.
Then check for tight once every week or two!

Re: is tti exaust worth the money [Re: Dodgem] #922994
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Everyone I know who is running a TTI system is happy with it. I am only running the old TTI 3" H-Pipe system with the large super-turbo mufflers. This was after spending good money on a 3.5" muffler shop system with race bullet mufflers that dumped before the rear axle. The muffler shop system has badly crumpled bends, and the turn downs would blast debris off the ground right back up onto the rear axle and the bottom of the car. It also sounded like I was running uncapped mufflers, even after I installed the larger welded race mufflers. The TTI system fit, came with all the hangers, and reduced the exhaust noise to a tolarable level, and there was no difference in performance in my car which just runs 12.5 in Denver, but 11.80's @ 115 in Vegas.

I currently have Hooker 2" supercomp headers, but they don't fit worth a darn, and I can't get them to seal at the head. I may bite the bullet and get the TTI headers.




The trick with those POS super comps (I had three sets before TTI Heaven) is to get the good fel pro header gaskets coat liberally on both sides with Hi temp RTV. Then just snug up and wait 1 hour. Then tighten leave over night, tighten again heat cycle and tighten again.
Then check for tight once every week or two!




I think most of my hooker header problems is my engine configuration, Low deck 'B' block with Edelbrock Victor MW heads. They may fit better if using a 440 with stock location exhaust ports, which is their "specified" application.

TTI is about the only place that makes off-the-shelf headers specific for odd-ball block/head combinations like this.

Along time ago I had the regular smaller tube size hooker comp headers, on a 383 with 906 heads, and they fit great.

Re: is tti exaust worth the money [Re: dangina] #922995
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bump for some videos at idle and at while driving - looking into this setup for my runner...




Video of my wife's Barracuda idling.

TTI 3" X-pipe system with Dynomax mufflers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCZUOrMQQrY

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Re: is tti exaust worth the money [Re: bigblockbryan] #922996
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Killer headers.! i have them and love them but i also had to have them with the heads i run and block combo.! Very good quality i was very happy.!


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Re: is tti exaust worth the money [Re: Blues_Cuda] #922997
02/12/11 09:22 AM
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bump for some videos at idle and at while driving - looking into this setup for my runner...




Video of my wife's Barracuda idling.

TTI 3" X-pipe system with Dynomax mufflers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCZUOrMQQrY




Yes! more of this!!

Re: is tti exaust worth the money [Re: dangina] #922998
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No problem with this TTI system,worth every penny.Also,most muffler shops can't mandrel bend 3" pipe.I have a friend that had a local shop put 3" on a 64 Polara,both sides from the collector back are in three section welded together.There are some good shops but most around here wouldn't touch anything I own.Try and find a muffler shop that can duplicate TTI,I doubt you'll find one.

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Re: is tti exaust worth the money [Re: 62maxwgn] #922999
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I think most people are forgetting that part of the equation.

I put a TTI system on my wife's car because I never intend to run it open headers. How it is raced is 100% how it is driven on the street. The system fits very well, for it's barely visible from a side profile.

I'll never say it was inexpensive, but I felt the car deserved it. With that said, would I put a $1000+ exhaust system on a $5k car? No.

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