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chrysler techs need help #904037
01/13/11 10:04 PM
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My son has a 2008 ram 1500,went to start it wont turn over,dash lights up,battery fully charged,if he unhooks battery &then hooks it back up it will start right. This has happened twice in the last 3 months,dealer has no idea,I say must be in the security system or pcm,sorta hard i am in ny hes in fla. any help is appreciated,thanks.

Re: chrysler techs need help [Re: GarageDodge] #904038
01/13/11 10:17 PM
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usually if its security it will disable the spark or fuel...


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Re: chrysler techs need help [Re: GarageDodge] #904039
01/13/11 10:20 PM
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replace key
or use another key

Re: chrysler techs need help [Re: GarageDodge] #904040
01/13/11 11:59 PM
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Typically this is due to "lockup" of the WCM/SKREEM (wireless control module), There is a TSB for this.
The easy way to tell if that IS the problem is to see if the keyless entry is also not functioning (If it has keyless) as when the WCM goes non responsive, the keyless entry will also quit.
Pulling the IOD fuse (number 11 under hood IIRC) for at least 10 seconds will clear the WCM and verify the problem if it starts after this (No need to discon the battery)
What causes this is static discharge from the person thru the key, it locks up the module and you are done.
The module will have to be replaced with the updated one to fix it.

Reference TSB 08-007-08


The keys have NOTHING to do with this as even with a bad or incorrect key it will still start and die 3 times before security lockout will prevent cranking


Rick


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Re: chrysler techs need help [Re: Blown71X] #904041
01/14/11 10:43 AM
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Quote:

Typically this is due to "lockup" of the WCM/SKREEM (wireless control module), There is a TSB for this.
The easy way to tell if that IS the problem is to see if the keyless entry is also not functioning (If it has keyless) as when the WCM goes non responsive, the keyless entry will also quit.
Pulling the IOD fuse (number 11 under hood IIRC) for at least 10 seconds will clear the WCM and verify the problem if it starts after this (No need to discon the battery)
What causes this is static discharge from the person thru the key, it locks up the module and you are done.
The module will have to be replaced with the updated one to fix it.

Reference TSB 08-007-08


The keys have NOTHING to do with this as even with a bad or incorrect key it will still start and die 3 times before security lockout will prevent cranking


Rick


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Re: chrysler techs need help [Re: C-Tech] #904042
01/14/11 01:37 PM
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Thanks for the help Rick,yes the keyless wont work when this happens,passed this info to my son.thanks again Joe.

Re: chrysler techs need help [Re: Blown71X] #904043
01/14/11 11:10 PM
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dumb question,,
if this went to a dealer ,, why didnt the
dealer fix this issue?
they know of this tsb
maybe just waiting for warranty to expire??
i disrregarded the tsb because it had been to a dealer?

Re: chrysler techs need help [Re: C-Tech] #904044
01/15/11 12:32 AM
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Quote:

Quote:

Typically this is due to "lockup" of the WCM/SKREEM (wireless control module), There is a TSB for this.
The easy way to tell if that IS the problem is to see if the keyless entry is also not functioning (If it has keyless) as when the WCM goes non responsive, the keyless entry will also quit.
Pulling the IOD fuse (number 11 under hood IIRC) for at least 10 seconds will clear the WCM and verify the problem if it starts after this (No need to discon the battery)
What causes this is static discharge from the person thru the key, it locks up the module and you are done.
The module will have to be replaced with the updated one to fix it.

Reference TSB 08-007-08


The keys have NOTHING to do with this as even with a bad or incorrect key it will still start and die 3 times before security lockout will prevent cranking


Rick


Listen to Rick he knows what he is talking about





Ah come on Rick is just another dumb Chrysler tech. Just fooling as I know he knows his stuff. Ron







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