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TORSION BAR REMOVAL...WHAT DO I NEED TO KNOW #902091 01/11/11 03:37 PM 01/11/11 03:37 PM
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mopar rookie OP enthusiast M Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 309 central ohio	I have 64 Plymouth and I want to remove the front end to get it all powder coated. Do I need special tools or what do I need to know about removing the torsion bars. People I have asked around here act like its a major deal? Also where is the place to buy a total front end rebuild kit for a Mopar. I have used PST in the past. Thanks for any advice.

Re: TORSION BAR REMOVAL...WHAT DO I NEED TO KNOW [Re: mopar rookie] #902092 01/11/11 03:47 PM 01/11/11 03:47 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,438 Florida STAYcation dOc ! The village idiot's idiot
dOc ! The village idiot's idiot Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,438 Florida STAYcation	WHY powder coat vs good paint ?

Re: TORSION BAR REMOVAL...WHAT DO I NEED TO KNOW DELETED [Re: mopar rookie] #902093 01/11/11 04:04 PM 01/11/11 04:04 PM
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Re: TORSION BAR REMOVAL...WHAT DO I NEED TO KNOW [Re: JoesMopar] #902094 01/11/11 04:07 PM 01/11/11 04:07 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,438 Florida STAYcation dOc ! The village idiot's idiot
dOc ! The village idiot's idiot Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,438 Florida STAYcation	VISE GRIPS ? ... on a TB ?? ... you must want to change-them-OUT again

Re: TORSION BAR REMOVAL...WHAT DO I NEED TO KNOW [Re: JoesMopar] #902095 01/11/11 04:09 PM 01/11/11 04:09 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,315 MOPAR HEADQUARTERS IN ALDEN NY H hemigod426 top fuel
hemigod426 top fuel H Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,315 MOPAR HEADQUARTERS IN ALDEN NY	Quote: You have to loosen the adjusting nut in the LCA all the way down to take the pressure off. Get the car in the air, remove the retaining ring in the back of the torsion bar, take a big pair of vise grips or anything "Craftsman" (lifetime warranty....), clamp it on the torsion bar and bang it out. do not use vise grips if you want to reuse the bar,it will mar,chip bar and may break there while driving. MOPAR OR NO CAR

Re: TORSION BAR REMOVAL...WHAT DO I NEED TO KNOW DELETED DELETED DELETED [Re: hemigod426] #902096 01/11/11 04:11 PM 01/11/11 04:11 PM
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Re: TORSION BAR REMOVAL...WHAT DO I NEED TO KNOW [Re: JoesMopar] #902097 01/11/11 04:19 PM 01/11/11 04:19 PM
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JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,042 U.S.S.A.	Quote: I've never had that problem, and I've done it many times. The torsion bar is much stronger than any pressure applied from a pair of vise grips. Maybe you guys can tell him (and me) the correct way to get them out without buying the "one time tool" or whatever it's called. Remove the nut for the pivot shaft and the strut on the lower control arm, after removing the tension off the T bar, and pry the control arm back with a long bar. Visegrips will put marks in the T bar and could cause it to break according to the internet and the factory service manual .

Re: TORSION BAR REMOVAL...WHAT DO I NEED TO KNOW [Re: JoesMopar] #902098 01/11/11 04:31 PM 01/11/11 04:31 PM
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Kern Dog Striving for excellence Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 18,493 Granite Bay CA	Quote: You have to loosen the adjusting nut in the LCA all the way down to take the pressure off. Get the car in the air, remove the retaining ring in the back of the torsion bar, take a big pair of vise grips or anything "Craftsman" (lifetime warranty....), clamp it on the torsion bar and bang it out. This idea WILL work, and I agree that it may never produce any ill effects, but it isnt good advice. I have used vice grips, pipe wrenches and Channel locks to remove T bars. I have also removed them by pulling the LCAs as well. I have never had a torsion bar fail, but it can happen. On cars I dismantle, I'll use a pipe wrench. On the Charger and Frankenduster, I just pull the control arm to be safe.

Re: TORSION BAR REMOVAL...WHAT DO I NEED TO KNOW [Re: Kern Dog] #902099 01/11/11 04:43 PM 01/11/11 04:43 PM
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469runner pro stock 4 Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,250 North Carolina	Usually when all the tension is removed, they will just slide out; unless rusted badly. I've never used a tool before. Just make sure the adjusting bolt is out, and remove the upper control arm rebound bumper to allow the suspension to droop all the way. Sometimes the strut will need to be loosened as it can put a slight twist on the lower control arm, but since you're dismantling the whole shebang anyway, save the torsion bar for last.

Re: TORSION BAR REMOVAL...WHAT DO I NEED TO KNOW [Re: 469runner] #902100 01/11/11 05:01 PM 01/11/11 05:01 PM
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mopar rookie OP enthusiast M Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 309 central ohio	I do want to reuse the bars so hopefuly they will come out easy. I am going to take a good look at it tonight. I have never messed with any front end stuff before so its time to learn. As far as powder coat I guess if its all out and getting blasted I figure why not powder coat, plus I got a buddy in that business Thanks for the advice for sure.

Re: TORSION BAR REMOVAL...WHAT DO I NEED TO KNOW [Re: mopar rookie] #902101 01/11/11 05:12 PM 01/11/11 05:12 PM
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Savoy1964 mopar Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 632 Casco, MI	You might not want to paint OR powdercoat the flats on the ends could make it hard to reinstall them. Last edited by Savoy1964; 01/11/11 05:25 PM.

Re: TORSION BAR REMOVAL...WHAT DO I NEED TO KNOW [Re: Savoy1964] #902102 01/11/11 05:19 PM 01/11/11 05:19 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,315 MOPAR HEADQUARTERS IN ALDEN NY H hemigod426 top fuel
hemigod426 top fuel H Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,315 MOPAR HEADQUARTERS IN ALDEN NY	Quote: You might not want to paint the flats on the ends could make it hard to reinstall them. paint ok do not powder coat hex that will make it to big MOPAR OR NO CAR

Re: TORSION BAR REMOVAL...WHAT DO I NEED TO KNOW [Re: hemigod426] #902103 01/11/11 05:40 PM 01/11/11 05:40 PM
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,212 QLD Australia Keith Black® pro stock
Keith Black® pro stock Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,212 QLD Australia	buy the proper tool, it's like $40, easy to use & a no sweat job removing torsion bars, takes 15 mins tops provided adjusters aren't rusted. -------------------------------- Darren Beale Keith Black Racing Engines®

Re: TORSION BAR REMOVAL...WHAT DO I NEED TO KNOW [Re: Keith Black®] #902104 01/11/11 05:51 PM 01/11/11 05:51 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,315 MOPAR HEADQUARTERS IN ALDEN NY H hemigod426 top fuel
hemigod426 top fuel H Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,315 MOPAR HEADQUARTERS IN ALDEN NY	Quote: buy the proper tool, it's like $40, easy to use & a no sweat job removing torsion bars, takes 15 mins tops provided adjusters aren't rusted. i cnc make and sell them 47.50 shipped all 48 6411405-4517473-100_1551.jpg (90 downloads) MOPAR OR NO CAR

Re: TORSION BAR REMOVAL...WHAT DO I NEED TO KNOW [Re: hemigod426] #902105 01/11/11 05:58 PM 01/11/11 05:58 PM
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JohnH mopar J Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 549 WV	Remember to put a good coat of wheel bearing grease on the end of the torsion bar that goes into the rear of the bar when reinstalling to bar with a new seal.. there is a snap ring on the rear also that has to be removed prior to taking the bar out..

Re: TORSION BAR REMOVAL...WHAT DO I NEED TO KNOW DELETED [Re: hemigod426] #902106 01/11/11 08:29 PM 01/11/11 08:29 PM
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Re: TORSION BAR REMOVAL...WHAT DO I NEED TO KNOW [Re: JoesMopar] #902107 01/11/11 08:42 PM 01/11/11 08:42 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,315 MOPAR HEADQUARTERS IN ALDEN NY H hemigod426 top fuel
hemigod426 top fuel H Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,315 MOPAR HEADQUARTERS IN ALDEN NY	Quote: Quote: Quote: buy the proper tool, it's like $40, easy to use & a no sweat job removing torsion bars, takes 15 mins tops provided adjusters aren't rusted. i cnc make and sell them 47.50 shipped all 48 What if that tool puts a scratch in the torsion bar? Looks very similar to the "vise grips" I've used.. Guess you don't plan on re-installing them after using that tool? ive used it about 100 times never mared a bar yet, on show cars and drag car with painted bars i wrap 2 winds of masking tape around t-bar does not even take paint off during removeal,tell me you can do that with hackinstien vise grips. and if you have aftermarket bars that are bigger and cost $$ why would you even think of putting vise grips on them. MOPAR OR NO CAR

Re: TORSION BAR REMOVAL...WHAT DO I NEED TO KNOW [Re: hemigod426] #902108 01/11/11 08:54 PM 01/11/11 08:54 PM
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johnscudashop pro stock J Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,462 Mrytle Beach SC	I have been making these for years , They feature a comfortable round knurled handle with 3/8 16 Grade 8 bolts . Makes it easy to pop out the most stubborn torsion bars. $37.99 + $9.99 shipping . Order online at custommachinecomponents.com or 843-324-3586 6411746-100_1719.jpg (125 downloads)

Re: TORSION BAR REMOVAL...WHAT DO I NEED TO KNOW [Re: johnscudashop] #902109 01/11/11 09:29 PM 01/11/11 09:29 PM
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mopar rookie OP enthusiast M Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 309 central ohio	I will just paint the sway bars. I'm just going to powder coat the k member, a arms ect. I didn't make it out to the garage tonight but I will tomorrow for sure. Been plowing snow . Thanks again

Re: TORSION BAR REMOVAL...WHAT DO I NEED TO KNOW DELETED [Re: hemigod426] #902110 01/11/11 09:46 PM 01/11/11 09:46 PM
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