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What are the fastest SB mopar stockers ( with carbs ) #810316 09/21/10 01:35 PM 09/21/10 01:35 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 411 Big Island ,VA J JC Childress OP mopar
JC Childress OP mopar J Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 411 Big Island ,VA	Just curious what some the fastest small block Mopar stockers are ? How would a 71 340 Duster do ? Just thinking out loud and looking for some input. Thanks for any info. J.C. Childress (434) 665-9541

Re: What are the fastest SB mopar stockers ( with carbs ) [Re: JC Childress] #810317 09/21/10 01:52 PM 09/21/10 01:52 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,225 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,225 Bend,OR USA	NHRA,in all of its of its wisdom, has raised the HP rating in stock on all of the 340 motors high enough that a lot of the better 340 racers (and 360 and 318) have not raced them do to raising the HP rating on those motors which raises the cars up in class or cause them to add weight to stay in the class they ran it in. To answer your question the 1971 340 was hit the most next to the 1970 T/A Challenger six pak motors One thing you need to keep in mind when deciding to race in NHRA stock is unless your running another car in the same class your bracket racing, the faster cars(run more under the NHRA class index) get to dial under more than the same but slower class car can I ran a NHRA stocker off and on for a lot of years, the only time I got to race a car in the same class was at the races where they held class run offs. I never ran a car in the same class on Sunday in over 15 years of running Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: What are the fastest SB mopar stockers ( with carbs ) [Re: JC Childress] #810318 09/21/10 01:53 PM 09/21/10 01:53 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,528 Mansfield, Tx Jacob Pitt master
Jacob Pitt master Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,528 Mansfield, Tx	The fastest are the new Challengers they are really flying. A lot of guys run the Dusters in F/SA and G/SA which is usually a 10.80-11.20 car. My Volare is a H/SA car and has to weigh 3490 for NHRA and has run 11.20's with a 360. 2013 NHRA D4 Stock Champ #4 in the World IHRA Stock 2x IHRA Div.4 Stock Champ 14x Track Champ All using a Ultimate Converter Concepts converter. Call Lenny today 704-892-6837

Re: What are the fastest SB mopar stockers ( with carbs ) [Re: JC Childress] #810319 09/21/10 02:08 PM 09/21/10 02:08 PM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 294 mi V vcummins enthusiast
vcummins enthusiast V Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 294 mi	Quote: Just curious what some the fastest small block Mopar stockers are ? How would a 71 340 Duster do ? Just thinking out loud and looking for some input. Thanks for any info. J.C Its to bad IHRA stop running top stock. It was A lot of fun. I think you were building your car for top stock weren't you ?

Re: What are the fastest SB mopar stockers ( with carbs ) [Re: vcummins] #810320 09/21/10 04:34 PM 09/21/10 04:34 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 411 Big Island ,VA J JC Childress OP mopar
JC Childress OP mopar J Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 411 Big Island ,VA	It was built specially for Top Stock but since that was a flop, I am kicking around different ideas. I love stock and super stock, just dont have all the funds I need to get it all going right now. In due time I guess.....Rome wasnt built in a day ! LOL.... I think it would make a killer stocker with a few changes.Just looking for ideas and suggestions. J.C. Childress (434) 665-9541

Re: What are the fastest SB mopar stockers ( with carbs ) [Re: JC Childress] #810321 09/21/10 04:46 PM 09/21/10 04:46 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,894 Florida Locomotion master
Locomotion master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,894 Florida	Overall ET or under the index? A 340-6 Challenger T/A had the C/SA record in the 10.30's a while back and I believe and I've seen '71 340 A-bodies running around mid-10's in ideal conditions. But as Cab pointed out, they got hit with with more HP. Under the index would take some research, including watching all qualifying sheets. But there is no telling how much $$$ has gone into any of the faster combos. What body or bodies do you have to work with? Last edited by Locomotion; 09/21/10 04:49 PM.

Re: What are the fastest SB mopar stockers ( with carbs ) [Re: Locomotion] #810322 09/22/10 09:46 AM 09/22/10 09:46 AM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 411 Big Island ,VA J JC Childress OP mopar
JC Childress OP mopar J Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 411 Big Island ,VA	All I have is 2 Dusters. I meant fastest as far as overall ET, not how far under the index they can go. Last edited by Super Stk Duster; 09/22/10 09:47 AM. J.C. Childress (434) 665-9541

Re: What are the fastest SB mopar stockers ( with carbs ) [Re: JC Childress] #810323 09/22/10 10:19 PM 09/22/10 10:19 PM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 6,257 acworth / N. georgia - south e... cheapstreetdustr master
cheapstreetdustr master Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 6,257 acworth / N. georgia - south e...	Quote: All I have is 2 Dusters. I meant fastest as far as overall ET, not how far under the index they can go. the reason this is relevant..is...its the only class of racing your gonna find Truely "stock" so to find a fast stock car time...you have to factor if against the index.. alot of cars are capable of much faster... if i was gonna take a stab at a number id say. 10.80s off the bat... now when you add to the engine capable of that et.. gun drilled axles, alloy drive shafts, seriously worked over transmissions...a very well sourced chassis...with relative 60ft times... i can see another .4 -.5 off of the 10.80 number id put it about right there... (stab a real cam in the car and it would blow that number out of the water..but i digress) i feel a 360 on paper should get it done over a 340...but some of dem 340 cars are scootin... cheapst 365" Iron J heads,,3480lbs best 1.39 60ft on SS springs.10.54,124 mph ...6.67 1/8th et.average 60fts 1.46 w/ small cam &.063 no2 pill tagged & insured [image][/image]

Re: What are the fastest SB mopar stockers ( with carbs ) [Re: JC Childress] #810324 09/22/10 10:30 PM 09/22/10 10:30 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,894 Florida Locomotion master
Locomotion master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,894 Florida	Quote: All I have is 2 Dusters. I meant fastest as far as overall ET, not how far under the index they can go. The model year of the Dusters limit your options also, unless you run IHRA-only Stock GT or Crate Motor which allow non-OEM engines in the car used. But for regular Stockers, you have to use only the engines that were available in the model year car being used. The horsepower factors determine what class you end up and the index to run under. The hard part is figuring out which has the most favorable/underfactored HP rating. But the Mopar combos have been worked on for decades and the fastest ones are pretty fast.

Re: What are the fastest SB mopar stockers ( with carbs ) [Re: Locomotion] #810325 09/23/10 11:28 AM 09/23/10 11:28 AM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 411 Big Island ,VA J JC Childress OP mopar
JC Childress OP mopar J Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 411 Big Island ,VA	It may not be the ideal combo, but I'm liking the 71' hi-comp 340 combination in my Duster as a D/SA car. I have been talking to Bruce at Parsons and Myers and he has been very helpful as well as a guy in Missouri named Brad Van Lant ( last name is prolly wrong, but close..). They are both very sharp on the small block Mopar stockers. I'm always open to any and all suggestions. J.C. Childress (434) 665-9541

Re: What are the fastest SB mopar stockers ( with carbs ) [Re: JC Childress] #810326 09/23/10 11:35 AM 09/23/10 11:35 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 11,179 Atco NJ DJVCuda I Live Here
DJVCuda I Live Here Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 11,179 Atco NJ	Not alot of in-depth information but some interesting reading on the car about some details. LINK HERE

Re: What are the fastest SB mopar stockers ( with carbs ) [Re: DJVCuda] #810327 09/23/10 11:52 AM 09/23/10 11:52 AM
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,906 IL, Aurora A ademon master
ademon master A Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 6,906 IL, Aurora	i see they don't have to run the correct year t-quad? i wonder why they leave the choke plate and rods on when if removed can pick up 50 cfm's or so

Re: What are the fastest SB mopar stockers ( with carbs ) [Re: ademon] #810328 09/23/10 11:54 AM 09/23/10 11:54 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 11,179 Atco NJ DJVCuda I Live Here
DJVCuda I Live Here Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 11,179 Atco NJ	I'd refer you to the rule book ( NHRA ) as I dont know all the ins and outs of the class... it is very specific in some areas ( carb base gaskets , for example)

Re: What are the fastest SB mopar stockers ( with carbs ) [Re: ademon] #810329 09/23/10 01:00 PM 09/23/10 01:00 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,894 Florida Locomotion master
Locomotion master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,894 Florida	Quote: i see they don't have to run the correct year t-quad? i wonder why they leave the choke plate and rods on when if removed can pick up 50 cfm's or so Throttle bores and venturi have to be the same size as OEM. Otherwise, it's the rules! In IHRA Crate Motor Stock, small blocks are allowed a 750 Holley and big blocks an 850 Holley. But they have to retain the choke tower and plate also with no additional mods (besides jets, squirters, pump cams, etc.). J.C., Yes, the fast Stock racers and builders are the most knowledgable. Last edited by Locomotion; 09/23/10 01:02 PM.

Re: What are the fastest SB mopar stockers ( with carbs ) [Re: Locomotion] #810330 09/23/10 01:17 PM 09/23/10 01:17 PM
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hotairballoonpilot master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,668 South Dakota	If you are going to work with Brad Van Lant all I can say is watch out! and be carefull. He will lets say make you need to change your pants. He knows his way around a small block mopar. Seen his cars flat run, He use to live in Luverne Minnesota and I belive he lives around the ozarks now. last I heard he was working for a guy that ran a mechanic shop around the lakes that use to live in Sioux Falls. Can't remember his name. Good luck. Contact Me about AMD Prices

Re: What are the fastest SB mopar stockers ( with carbs ) [Re: Locomotion] #810331 09/23/10 01:39 PM 09/23/10 01:39 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 411 Big Island ,VA J JC Childress OP mopar
JC Childress OP mopar J Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 411 Big Island ,VA	I'm pretty familiar with the rules, just fishing for ideas and suggestions. Nothing personal Myron, but the crate motor class isnt my cup of tea. You are awesome at it and I admire you and what you've accomplished, so please dont take it the wrong way, it just doesnt interest me. Anything I do is based on a small budget. If I was able to run this deal, it would be with a production 340 block, and maybe some X heads. Anyone have any x heads ? I may also talk to Bub Whitaker, as I know his stuff runs great also. Last edited by Super Stk Duster; 09/23/10 03:16 PM. J.C. Childress (434) 665-9541

Re: What are the fastest SB mopar stockers ( with carbs ) [Re: JC Childress] #810332 09/23/10 05:11 PM 09/23/10 05:11 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,894 Florida Locomotion master
Locomotion master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,894 Florida	No problem J.C., just putting out options. Sometimes I wish I could have the flexibilty of runnibng a "regular" Stocker. But the CM classes are most affordable for me. As for heads, don't make up your mind prematurely. Most engines have some options that may work better. The engine builders mentioned will know.

Re: What are the fastest SB mopar stockers ( with carbs ) [Re: Locomotion] #810333 09/23/10 05:58 PM 09/23/10 05:58 PM
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mbogina enthusiast M Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 293 Kansas City Metro	Brad VanLant's 71 340 Duster is awesome, I have seen it run high 10.40's/50's in E/SA trim, I am sure he could run even quicker if he wished. Very knowledgable with this combo. Prior to the 340 Duster, he ran a 440-6 Challenger in B/SA. Be a Rebel- Break the Laws of Physics!

Re: What are the fastest SB mopar stockers ( with carbs ) [Re: JC Childress] #810334 09/23/10 06:02 PM 09/23/10 06:02 PM
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Quicktree I Win Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394	Quote: I'm pretty familiar with the rules, just fishing for ideas and suggestions. Nothing personal Myron, but the crate motor class isnt my cup of tea. You are awesome at it and I admire you and what you've accomplished, so please dont take it the wrong way, it just doesnt interest me. Anything I do is based on a small budget. If I was able to run this deal, it would be with a production 340 block, and maybe some X heads. Anyone have any x heads ? I may also talk to Bub Whitaker, as I know his stuff runs great also. I have a complete X head 340 core motor

Re: What are the fastest SB mopar stockers ( with carbs ) [Re: Quicktree] #810335 09/23/10 08:12 PM 09/23/10 08:12 PM
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5343stk member 5 Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 10 MN	Speaking from a little experience, Brad Van Lant is the best in the country in regards to small block mopars. I have won F/SA at Indy the last two years with his power under the hood. Without his knowledge and help it wouldn't have been possible. James Findell 5343 Stock 1973 Plymouth Duster 340 10.67 @ 124

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