"It Could Be Worse!" ADVISORY
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08/21/10 02:22 AM
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I get so sick of hearing that. This time I have to agree.
We took the car up to US-131 for Friday Test & Tune after I fixed a leaking head last week. 1st pass off the trailer car goes 9.9804 @ 130.9 MPH and I catch some flack picking up my slip from the ET shack for not having a license. We're there testing air pressures and shock setting for 60 ft. times anyway so I start clicking it off at the 1000'
Burnout for the 3rd pass felt "weird".........I stage the car and lift at the 1000' cone. Coming back the return road, I notice my steering wheel is crooked. I knew immediately something was wrong. Something was.
I was doing 123 MPH when I lifted. It could have been worse.
Anybody using this style of steering arm......Please inspect them thoroughly for cracks, etc.
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Re: "It Could Be Worse!"
[Re: dc426]
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08/21/10 10:43 AM
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wow, you got lucky....that's the good thing. Who's parts are those?
hint land of lincoln
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Re: "It Could Be Worse!"
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08/21/10 12:56 PM
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The steering arm extention is plenty strong, but its attachment point to the spindle is Extremely weak!! Is that what?? about 1/8 to 3/16,s thick Id want a 1/2" minimum. Both of those steering arms need to be replaced with stronger, smarter versions before Id run that car again. Somebody focused on the strength of the steering arm extention and not its attachment points. Im sure they know that now, Get her fixed Vic! Im glad you missed the bullet on that one , mike
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Re: "It Could Be Worse!"
[Re: Sport440]
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08/22/10 01:42 AM
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The steering arm extention is plenty strong, but its attachment point to the spindle is Extremely weak!!
Is that what?? about 1/8 to 3/16,s thick Id want a 1/2" minimum.
Both of those steering arms need to be replaced with stronger, smarter versions before Id run that car again. Somebody focused on the strength of the steering arm extention and not its attachment points. Im sure they know that now, Get her fixed Vic! Im glad you missed the bullet on that one , mike
Wow! do I ever agree with you. Lightweight is fine but that setup is suicidal. I would NEVER use aluminum for those parts.
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Re: "It Could Be Worse!"
[Re: BobR]
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08/22/10 10:06 AM
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I'll have to go and look at mine, I have an LRT k-member. I know mine is an older version and Rob was building a new design of steering arm, but has told me that he is not interested in making any more Mopar front end parts. If mine are a similar design I'll be oredering a set of Bob's. Steve
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Re: "It Could Be Worse!"
[Re: BobR]
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08/22/10 11:01 AM
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Lightweight is fine but that setup is suicidal. I would NEVER use aluminum for those parts.
You need to buy a lottery ticket .
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Re: "It Could Be Worse!"
[Re: BobR]
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08/22/10 02:53 PM
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Wow! do I ever agree with you. Lightweight is fine but that setup is suicidal. I would NEVER use aluminum for those parts.
my steering arms are 70-75 billet alum.
and i dont sell them seperately to use with other front ends.
Bob
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Re: "It Could Be Worse!"
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08/22/10 04:46 PM
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i guess 2600 pounds come with a price... glad you are still in one piece
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Re: "It Could Be Worse!"
[Re: S/ST 3040]
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08/23/10 12:22 AM
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As posted earlier, parts were not aluminum. I didn't mean for this to be a "vendor bash". I am just extremely thankful I didn't crash the car.
Whats More Important! "IS"
Is, to let people know that may be using these same steering arms is, that they may have some weak design flaw issues. I dont care who the vendor is. Its not about the "Vendor"
Its about a Weak design flaw, As is,IMO and from your own experience. I would want every possible Moparts user of same said parts to "Beware" and check for the same said structure cracks for their own safety.
I will add that the part as is could be reinforced to work safely, IMO. But taking fatigue into consideration, maybe it would be best to start from scratch/new. mike
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Re: "It Could Be Worse!"
[Re: Sport440]
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08/23/10 08:40 AM
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As posted earlier, parts were not aluminum. I didn't mean for this to be a "vendor bash". I am just extremely thankful I didn't crash the car.
Whats More Important! "IS"
Is, to let people know that may be using these same steering arms is, that they may have some weak design flaw issues. I dont care who the vendor is. Its not about the "Vendor"
Its about a Weak design flaw, As is,IMO and from your own experience. I would want every possible Moparts user of same said parts to "Beware" and check for the same said structure cracks for their own safety.
I will add that the part as is could be reinforced to work safely, IMO. But taking fatigue into consideration, maybe it would be best to start from scratch/new. mike
Very good point Mike. As a matter of fact, my car has had an inherent front end vibration that very well could have unduely stressed these arms and expidited their breaking. I advise anybody using these to take the time to thoroughly inspect their steering arms for cracks, etc.
Leigh, I am undecided on the method of repair or replacement.
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Re: "It Could Be Worse!"
[Re: S/ST 3040]
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09/01/10 09:14 PM
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Very good point Mike. As a matter of fact, my car has had an inherent front end vibration that very well could have unduely stressed these arms and expidited their breaking. I advise anybody using these to take the time to thoroughly inspect their steering arms for cracks, etc. OR and more likely... the weak design COULD have been the vibration (wheels moving back and forth)
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Re: "It Could Be Worse!"
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09/01/10 09:29 PM
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In the interest of safety, get some stock parts modified to work. The extra 1/2 pound is well worth it! These arms were cut off and welded back on at the right height and length. They have proven to be extremely durable.
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Re: "It Could Be Worse!"
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09/01/10 10:33 PM
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In the interest of safety, get some stock parts modified to work. The extra 1/2 pound is well worth it! These arms were cut off and welded back on at the right height and length. They have proven to be extremely durable.
or get lucky and just use a stock lower ball joint arm installed on the opposite side with no cutting and just a little bending
or put a set of billet ones on
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Re: "It Could Be Worse!"
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09/01/10 11:21 PM
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In the interest of safety, get some stock parts modified to work. The extra 1/2 pound is well worth it! These arms were cut off and welded back on at the right height and length. They have proven to be extremely durable.
or get lucky and just use a stock lower ball joint arm installed on the opposite side with no cutting and just a little bending
That's exactly the way mine has been for 18 years now. And it wheel stands quite a bit.
Chris..
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Re: "It Could Be Worse!"
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09/02/10 09:20 AM
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In the interest of safety, get some stock parts modified to work. The extra 1/2 pound is well worth it! These arms were cut off and welded back on at the right height and length. They have proven to be extremely durable.
or get lucky and just use a stock lower ball joint arm installed on the opposite side with no cutting and just a little bending
I thought you were not supposed to heat front end components?
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Re: "It Could Be Worse!" ADVISORY
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09/08/10 03:33 PM
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Boy some of our members do some beautiful work. I'm glad their on our side.(mopar or no car)
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Re: "It Could Be Worse!"
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01/02/11 10:39 PM
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whos stuff was that?
LRT. Again, I wasn't throwing anybody under a bus. I just wanted to inform other people with the same stuff to check their's. My stuff was bought second or third hand and maybe these parts were upgraded it later kits.
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