Re: 440 Engine Pad Decoding
[Re: JohnRR]
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01/04/08 07:29 PM
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all 440's are 6-packs just like all chev 350's are LT1s
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Re: 440 Engine Pad Decoding
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01/04/08 07:59 PM
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all 440's are 6-packs just like all chev 350's are LT1s
Smart [Edited by Moparts - Keep it clean].
The engine needs a rebuild, block looks untouched (other than being torn down) and has the six pack crank and connecting rods. That and the engine shop that has it says it came from a six pack car. The engine was dropped off for a rebuild awhile ago and work started but then divorce hit, couldn't pay the bills and forfeited the engine block in lieu of payment.
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Re: 440 Engine Pad Decoding
[Re: Dodge Don]
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01/04/08 08:21 PM
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The "C" on the pad means "Special Rods & Pistons". That is a six pack block. There should also be a "C" on another spot on that block if it's a real six pack and someone hasn't just put the C on the pad. I'll PM you with that location.
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Re: 440 Engine Pad Decoding
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01/04/08 09:10 PM
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The "C" on the pad means "Special Rods & Pistons". That is a six pack block. There should also be a "C" on another spot on that block if it's a real six pack and someone hasn't just put the C on the pad. I'll PM you with that location.
so it's a secret??? I thought this was a "question & answer" board...just think the havoc I could wreck if I knew the secret location of the magical "C" stamp.
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Re: 440 Engine Pad Decoding
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01/04/08 09:14 PM
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i think he's talking about about the stamp on the back of the engine by the cam plug.
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Re: 440 Engine Pad Decoding
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01/04/08 10:18 PM
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There are hidden numbers and symbols on all vehicles that the general public doesn't know about. These are put there for reasons you should be able to figure out. The world is filled with scam artists, car thieves, chop shops. Just ask the people that have been ripped off by them. If everybody knew where these were there could be no justice, the criminals would win. There are more out there than you think. I've dealt with many of them.
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Re: 440 Engine Pad Decoding
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01/05/08 02:14 PM
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The "C" on the pad means "Special Rods & Pistons". That is a six pack block. There should also be a "C" on another spot on that block if it's a real six pack and someone hasn't just put the C on the pad. I'll PM you with that location.
Sorry dude, I'm calling BS on that one, I've owned more than one numbers matching 1970 440 Six Pack car and NONE of them have had the magical "C" you mentioned. I'm not saying that SOME may have had a "C" stamp, but it's certainly not something that positively identifies any 440 as a six pack block, there is only one way to do that and that is to match the blocks VIN sequence# to an original 440 Six pack car, as far as cranks and rods go, all 70 440's used the same rods and cranks, the Six Packs did use unique pistons which had valve reliefs on both sides, but that's an easily changed out componant so unless you know for certain the engines never been appart it's not sure bet. PERIOD END OF STORY!
Same goes for your comment about "secret" numbers stamped into cars in hidden places (other than the already well known locations). I hate crooks and thieves as well but that's pure fantasy urban legend.
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Re: 440 Engine Pad Decoding
[Re: Dodge Don]
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01/05/08 02:42 PM
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Just curious, have you had the bathtub/intake gasket off on all those 'matching numbers' cars?
I've never owned one with the original intake gaskets, they'd all been R&R'd at one time or another, but I do have good clear photos of the block pad stampings as well as the block VIN# sequence stampings and matching VIN tags if you ever need to see proof to say, settle a bet?
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Re: 440 Engine Pad Decoding
[Re: Dodge Don]
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01/05/08 03:21 PM
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all 440's are 6-packs just like all chev 350's are LT1s
Smart [Edited by Moparts - Keep it clean].
The engine needs a rebuild, block looks untouched (other than being torn down) and has the six pack crank and connecting rods. That and the engine shop that has it says it came from a six pack car. The engine was dropped off for a rebuild awhile ago and work started but then divorce hit, couldn't pay the bills and forfeited the engine block in lieu of payment.
has the 6pk crank ???
does the shop still have the pistons they removed from that engine ???
i'm not buying the its a 6 pk because every knows that a 6pk block is an HP2 ...
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Re: 440 Engine Pad Decoding
[Re: JohnRR]
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01/05/08 03:49 PM
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all 70-71 440 hp 440 4bbl or 6bbl have a six pack crank and connecting rods and damper hemi oil pan the 70 6bbl has 10.5 pistons 4bbl has 9.7 716bbl has 10.3 4bbl 9.5 the 70-71 440 lp do not have them
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Re: 440 Engine Pad Decoding
[Re: Dodge Don]
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01/05/08 06:14 PM
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Oh and my understanding is that HP2 does not mean anything other that second shift of production.
Well yes, the 2 portion of it does. HP stands for High Performance, which would have been on any 440+4 HP or any 440+6 engine.
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