Alright, I'm at a loss - my engine's killing carbs *DELETED*
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10/24/09 12:35 PM
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Re: Alright, I'm at a loss - my engine's killing carbs
[Re: sharpie]
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10/24/09 12:50 PM
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May not be your problem, just going to "toss" it out there,.......sounds very similar to a "ghost" problem I onced chased, it was eventualy found to be very minute rust particles, unseen by the human eye that were clogging/gunking up the fuel system,....apon initial tank inspection the tank seemed clean,.....but condensation (from sitting) had formed fine rust particles on the ceiling of the gas tank, didn't find this until I had rebuilt the carb, replaced the pump, the fuel filter, replaced the fuel lines, etc, etc ,......finally after still having bouts of intermitten days of good and bad running, I finally installed a clear sight, smallest micron gas filter I could, then the rust started showing up on the screen, the rust, being so small, was more like a film, not particles, but none the less it was clogging the small passages of the carb,.....replaced the tank, flushed the system, never had a problem afterwards Mike
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Re: Alright, I'm at a loss - my engine's killing carbs
[Re: DAYCLONA]
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10/24/09 01:03 PM
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take the carb off & flush it good w starting fluid & hang a container of clean gas above it like a bag of plasma in a hospital & now see if your OK
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Re: Alright, I'm at a loss - my engine's killing carbs
[Re: Racer413]
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10/24/09 01:05 PM
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joedust451
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It sounds like the fuel has trash in it, most likely rust or something stopping up the carbs, if it was ignition, it would most likely act the same with any carb, even a vacuum leak, i would check the fuel filter (cut it open) to see whats in it, there must be small particals getting through & stopping up the metering in the carbs, this will cause idle issues & stalling/hard starting.
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Re: Alright, I'm at a loss - my engine's killing carbs
[Re: sharpie]
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10/24/09 01:11 PM
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Could fuel really be giving me intermittent problems like this?
The fuel filter I replaced was actually pretty new. I know some garbage is coming through the lines. Maybe it's time to clean the tank, because I haven't messed with any of that yet.
Yes, yes.. The time is now.
If you can see a "bunch of garbage" in the little amount if miles you've put on that new fuel filter you need to follow the issue upstream. "some garbage" is too much garbage.
Do you have pictures of the fuel filter garbage you have in it now? How many miles on this second? filter?
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Re: Alright, I'm at a loss - my engine's killing carbs
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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10/24/09 01:11 PM
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Carb diagnosis without being there is next to impossible, but as a guess? I'd say you still have a fuel contamination issue somewhere.
Sounds like the small passages are getting clogged in areas you can't clean easily during a carb rebuild. I have a junk brand new 600 Edelbrock a customer put on without a fuel filter because the previous carb "stopped working". When I pulled the tank tons of the most fossilized gas and crud I've ever seen came out. The bottom of the float bowls had a cement like substance that was impervious to a 48 hour carb cleaner soak. I suspect that same substance is inside the small passages I can't get to with a small wire and compressed air does not push it out.
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Re: Alright, I'm at a loss - my engine's killing carbs
[Re: sharpie]
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10/24/09 01:13 PM
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I don't build a car without replacing the tank the lines and the pick up. 40 year old sludge builds up and breaks away slowly. I've cut solid looking lines only to have them crumple from rot.
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Re: Alright, I'm at a loss - my engine's killing carbs
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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10/24/09 02:15 PM
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You're giving up that easy? Heck it's not that expensive, all in you'll probably only spend $300.00 or so, and that's a reach.
You'd never believe it if you saw what I was paid annually, but I am having serious issues with money right now, and probably will continue for the next, oh, 19 years or so.
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Re: Alright, I'm at a loss - my engine's killing carbs
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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10/24/09 02:17 PM
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You're giving up that easy? Heck it's not that expensive, all in you'll probably only spend $300.00 or so, and that's a reach.
I saw new tanks a Fall Fling for $170 or so.
A raditor shop might clean it out for $50. A new sending unit pickup screen is under $10.
Fact is, if you want to sell it you have to get it running. The loss in selling it the way it's running now is more than $300.
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Re: Alright, I'm at a loss - my engine's killing carbs
[Re: Neil]
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10/24/09 03:22 PM
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It does sound like a large vaccuum leak. Check the back of the intake manifold. I put an intake manifold on a small block one time and there was a space on the rear between the manifold and block. I did not notice it at first because when I first put the manifold on, in ran like a raped ape. About a week later it was acting exactly as you stated above. I replaced the car with one I knew was good and same thing. The firewall did not give access to see it. It was on a derby car (5th ave). When I cut the firewall out from the inside to make clearance for the dist, I could see it plain as day, part of the intake manifold gasket was missing. It was only a derby car so I wadded some RTV in there rather than replacing the intake gasket, problem solved. I am not saying this is the corresct way, but check the intake manifold gaskets. Don't over look the cheap fix. Good Luck
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