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Slant 6 guys I have a couple of ?. #436860
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My /6 runs great in the morning or when I just fire up the motor but after it gets hot it won't idle. The carb is hot as heck!!

2nd ? What should the timing be set at for stock?

3. What is the hot or cold lash?

4. Where is the best place to get info on these things?

thx Diego

Re: Slant 6 guys I have a couple of ?. [Re: Diego_Ted] #436861
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www.slantsix.org

Diego What part of Diego are you in... I work in Old Town, live in Oside.....


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Re: Slant 6 guys I have a couple of ?. [Re: Noblewk] #436862
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Hey, thx for the link, I am in Chula!! lOL
Send me a PM and let's get togeather.

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Do the fuel line mod over there at www.slantsix.org


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Re: Slant 6 guys I have a couple of ?. [Re: Rug_Trucker] #436864
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Do the fuel line mod over there at www.slantsix.org




I also made an aluminum heat dissapation plate from some sheet aluminum and 2 of the thicker base gaskets. It helped more than doing the fuel line mod, which left me with the same symptoms.

The ideal way is to do both of those mods and add a return line from a 3 nipple fuel filter to the tank to bleed off the residual fuel pressure between the fuel pump and the needle and seat, once the car is shut off.

This bypass line reduces the volume of gas that drips into the intake when the car is shut off and the fuel boils into the intake causing hard starting condition. The fuel in the carb is still going to make it in there, but at least the presurized fuel in the line can't keep flowing past the needle and seat to add more fuel to the problem, because the presure will have been relieved and that fuel sent back to the tank. It also affords some cooling of the fuel by allowing some circulation.

I need to replace my fuel tank anyway, and bought all the parts to do that and plumb the new return line at the same time. Now, I just need to get out and install it. The heat plate eliminated most of my hot start problems.


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Re: Slant 6 guys I have a couple of ?. [Re: Diego_Ted] #436865
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are you a member of the local mopar club? there,s acouple of guys in it that are really savy on the /6 they meet almost every sat in clairmont. also they are having thier anual car shor in carlsbad on the 12 of sept.

Re: Slant 6 guys I have a couple of ?. [Re: Rug_Trucker] #436866
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Do the fuel line mod over there at www.slantsix.org



I personally think this is this biggest joke out there, It didn't do jack dooky for me. I think it's more of a gas problem than anything else. I have pics of the plate that someone made on the / board, one of these years I'll get around to trying that idea. Maybe even wrap the manifold with headder tape to keep the heat down.

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Do the fuel line mod over there at www.slantsix.org



I personally think this is this biggest joke out there, It didn't do jack dooky for me. I think it's more of a gas problem than anything else. I have pics of the plate that someone made on the / board, one of these years I'll get around to trying that idea. Maybe even wrap the manifold with headder tape to keep the heat down.





I shot my fuel line and carb with an infared gauge on my Dart without the mod. 180*!!!!!!! It is hot before it gets to the carb.


My Duster had the problem too. I did the mod when I went 2bbl. No problems. I have never shot temp on the Duster.

Re: Slant 6 guys I have a couple of ?. [Re: Rug_Trucker] #436868
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Cool guys I appriciate the info, I will try them all as the cost is minimal, Stubbs do you have the pic of the plate. What to you do lay a gasket down and cut out the voids and then use a gasket top and bottom?

Yes I am a mem of the SD mopar club and I know the guys you are talking about.

thx Ted

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Stubbs do you have the pic of the plate? thx Ted



Ted- Disregard the PM I sent you as I found your E-mail address. Check your Yahoo mail.

Re: Slant 6 guys I have a couple of ?. [Re: stubbs300 ] #436870
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Also check the heat riser.
I'd suggest doing a full on tuneup.
Most of those little things get a basic plugs and points and keep running.
Get everything set up, new ignition parts, freshened carb, clean all the grounds and wiring connections, lube all the moving parts, and it's amazing how they respond to some TLC!

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Also check the heat riser.



Crank it off & lock it there. 10 BTDC might get you started. .010" intakes. .020 exhausts


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Also check the heat riser.



Crank it off & lock it there. 10 BTDC might get you started. .010" intakes. .020 exhausts




Good advise here.
I went 19.40 with a stock '68 V200 when I first bought it.
When going thru everything, I found the heat riser on was stuck shut, timing was at 4* before with 24* in the dist(28* total), the valves averaged .013/.025, all of it going out a 1.875 exh pipe.
I freed up the riser, set the timing to 12* before with 18* in the dist(30* total), reset the valves to .010/.020, went to a 2.25 pipe and cheap turbo muff.
Went 18.10 next time out.

Re: Slant 6 guys I have a couple of ?. ((Update)) [Re: B5 Bee] #436873
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OK, set the lash, had a couple of exh too tight and a couple of intakes too loose, Did both the fuel line and the heat shield under the carb mod with a single gasket under the shield and a double gasket under the carb and wa la no more rough idle under hot stop and go conditions. I did have the fuel pump take a dump after the fuel line mod!! :x :x

THanks for all the help and lets see what I need to do next?? LOL

Diego

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lets see what I need to do next?? LOL

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THanks for all the help and lets see what I need to do next?? LOL

Diego



Yank it out, sell it on craigslist, and drop in a 360.

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I'd be willing to bet your problem was with the lash. Enjoy!

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