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SB head comparisions, Indy 360 versus ported iron T/A heads? #3175279 09/15/23 12:34 AM 09/15/23 12:34 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,141 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge OP I Win
Cab_Burge OP I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,141 Bend,OR USA	I'm getting ready to put a small stroker pump gas 360 motor together and was looking at the old post about the L.A. heads used back in the day My question is has any one on here ran both types of those heads and if so what are your thoughts about which ones are to get now Thanks in advance Cab Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: SB head comparisions, Indy 360 versus ported iron T/A heads? [Re: Cab_Burge] #3175294 09/15/23 07:46 AM 09/15/23 07:46 AM
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usp4u member U Joined: May 2019 Posts: 162 W. Pa	T/A heads are basically just J heads with the pushrods holes moved. While there may be a bit more material on the outside of the ports, they dont make for a huge improvement over what can be done with a regular J head. The Indy 360-2 will offer more performance. The 360-1 will offer significantly more.

Re: SB head comparisions, Indy 360 versus ported iron T/A heads? [Re: Cab_Burge] #3175326 09/15/23 10:32 AM 09/15/23 10:32 AM
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n20mstr master N Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,673 On the parachute mount	Originally Posted by Cab_Burge I'm getting ready to put a small stroker pump gas 360 motor together and was looking at the old post about the L.A. heads used back in the day My question is has any one on here ran both types of those heads and if so what are your thoughts about which ones are to get now Thanks in advance Cab Why not a magnum head?? ....BAD A$$ STREET CAR.....

Re: SB head comparisions, Indy 360 versus ported iron T/A heads? [Re: Cab_Burge] #3175843 09/17/23 03:03 PM 09/17/23 03:03 PM
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P7 Engineering member P Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 44 Pennsylvania	For an entry level motor, I would advise just going with a set of out of the box Edelbrock heads. Most cost effective route. Or you can buy the Large port commandos I just posted in the small block engine classifieds. Shameless plug. Sorry. LOL My 1974 2WD shortbed Chevy Truck build thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=525098

Re: SB head comparisions, Indy 360 versus ported iron T/A heads? [Re: P7 Engineering] #3175856 09/17/23 04:24 PM 09/17/23 04:24 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,406 Michigan MarkZ Worthy
MarkZ Worthy Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,406 Michigan	Don't those T/A heads have a significant value to the restoration crowd? 1987 Fifth Avenue - 512/518/D60

Re: SB head comparisions, Indy 360 versus ported iron T/A heads? [Re: MarkZ] #3175934 09/17/23 10:33 PM 09/17/23 10:33 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,141 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge OP I Win
Cab_Burge OP I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,141 Bend,OR USA	I should have stated originally that I want to buy a new set of aluminum heads, not a used set of ported W2 or T/A iron heads Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: SB head comparisions, Indy 360 versus ported iron T/A heads? [Re: Cab_Burge] #3176638 09/20/23 11:44 AM 09/20/23 11:44 AM
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Streetwize master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,872 Weddington, N.C.	Check with Brian Halfinger (IMM Racing engines) , I'd like to hear his opinion I have a set of the Airwolfs that are I believe were CNC ported Pro Comps, they flow really well but they only made a few sets of them on my 414. They flow around 310 @ .600 the only downside to them is the roof to spring pocket thickness is very thin but I don't run a very high spring pressure so they work fine in my motor/combination. I believe the Pro-comps were actually cast thicker in this area then the Edelbrocks, so I think that's probably where much of the additional flow potential comes from. If I was running a .750 lift solid with a lot of spring pressure I'd be a bit nervous but i think if I wanted to run that big a Cam I'd be looking at a W9 (or something similar) anyway. Last edited by Streetwize; 09/20/23 12:05 PM. WIZE World's Quickest Diahatsu Rocky (??) 414" Stroker Small block Mopar Powered. 10.84 @ 123...and gettin' quicker! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mWzLma3YGI In Car: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjXcf95e6v0

Re: SB head comparisions, Indy 360 versus ported iron T/A heads? [Re: Streetwize] #3176644 09/20/23 11:52 AM 09/20/23 11:52 AM
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B3422W5 I Live Here B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,711 Portage,michigan	Vote here for the Bloomer heads Rod and Vic Bloomer designed and sell They are a factory replacement type head( like an Edelbrock) that take all factory type parts( headers, intakes, rocker gear, etc) Make excellent power as delivered( fully CNC’ed, 2.08 valve, springs of choice) I am very happy with the set I have. A friend is running them on his 2880 pound AMX, and has been as quick as 5.94 I believe at 113+, just the way they come. My best with them is in my signature, plenty more I could do(bigger and or roller cam) but with stock block I don’t want to push any further. I took ported Eddie’s off, swapped on these heads and new headers, have thus far picked up 3 tenths over 5 mph. 69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight 418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4 1.41 best 60 foot 6.60 at 103.90 1/8

Re: SB head comparisions, Indy 360 versus ported iron T/A heads? [Re: Streetwize] #3176807 09/20/23 09:12 PM 09/20/23 09:12 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,141 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge OP I Win
Cab_Burge OP I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,141 Bend,OR USA	Originally Posted by Streetwize Check with Brian Halfinger (IMM Racing engines) , I'd like to hear his opinion I have a set of the Airwolfs that are I believe were CNC ported Pro Comps, they flow really well but they only made a few sets of them on my 414. They flow around 310 @ .600 the only downside to them is the roof to spring pocket thickness is very thin but I don't run a very high spring pressure so they work fine in my motor/combination. I believe the Pro-comps were actually cast thicker in this area then the Edelbrocks, so I think that's probably where much of the additional flow potential comes from. If I was running a .750 lift solid with a lot of spring pressure I'd be a bit nervous but i think if I wanted to run that big a Cam I'd be looking at a W9 (or something similar) anyway. For some reason Brian doesn't like me, probably because my pump gas street Duster was faster through the full exhaust system than his race gas drag race Duster was with open headers. His car had a LA SB race motor and mine had a 400 pump gas stroker motor What he didn't know was that I was building and racing Mopar's before he was born Last edited by Cab_Burge; 09/20/23 09:14 PM. Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: SB head comparisions, Indy 360 versus ported iron T/A heads? [Re: P7 Engineering] #3176822 09/20/23 10:31 PM 09/20/23 10:31 PM
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Mr PotatoHead Half Baked Joined: Aug 2019 Posts: 9,437 Super Spudsville	Would not touch those swap meet half machined commando heads... Originally Posted by P7 Engineering For an entry level motor, I would advise just going with a set of out of the box Edelbrock heads. Most cost effective route. Or you can buy the Large port commandos I just posted in the small block engine classifieds. Shameless plug. Sorry. LOL STOP POTATO HATE!

Re: SB head comparisions, Indy 360 versus ported iron T/A heads? [Re: Cab_Burge] #3176897 09/21/23 11:18 AM 09/21/23 11:18 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,684 W. Kentucky justinp61 I Live Here
justinp61 I Live Here Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,684 W. Kentucky	I was well pleased with my ported Edelbrocks. On my 10.8-1 408 they went 6.57 @ 104 and change at 3230ish pounds on pump 93 with an off the shelf flat solid cam.

Re: SB head comparisions, Indy 360 versus ported iron T/A heads? [Re: justinp61] #3176901 09/21/23 11:37 AM 09/21/23 11:37 AM
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B3422W5 I Live Here B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,711 Portage,michigan	Originally Posted by justinp61 I was well pleased with my ported Edelbrocks. On my 10.8-1 408 they went 6.57 @ 104 and change at 3230ish pounds on pump 93 with an off the shelf flat solid cam. Was one of the best running combos ever! Last edited by B3422W5; 09/21/23 11:37 AM. 69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight 418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4 1.41 best 60 foot 6.60 at 103.90 1/8

Re: SB head comparisions, Indy 360 versus ported iron T/A heads? [Re: Cab_Burge] #3176959 09/21/23 02:39 PM 09/21/23 02:39 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,484 SoCal Brian Hafliger master
Brian Hafliger master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,484 SoCal	Originally Posted by Cab_Burge Originally Posted by Streetwize Check with Brian Halfinger (IMM Racing engines) , I'd like to hear his opinion I have a set of the Airwolfs that are I believe were CNC ported Pro Comps, they flow really well but they only made a few sets of them on my 414. They flow around 310 @ .600 the only downside to them is the roof to spring pocket thickness is very thin but I don't run a very high spring pressure so they work fine in my motor/combination. I believe the Pro-comps were actually cast thicker in this area then the Edelbrocks, so I think that's probably where much of the additional flow potential comes from. If I was running a .750 lift solid with a lot of spring pressure I'd be a bit nervous but i think if I wanted to run that big a Cam I'd be looking at a W9 (or something similar) anyway. For some reason Brian doesn't like me, probably because my pump gas street Duster was faster through the full exhaust system than his race gas drag race Duster was with open headers. His car had a LA SB race motor and mine had a 400 pump gas stroker motor What he didn't know was that I was building and racing Mopar's before he was born That right there is the reason I prefer to keep clear of you. Unfortunate to see your still the same. Brian Hafliger

Re: SB head comparisions, Indy 360 versus ported iron T/A heads? [Re: Brian Hafliger] #3177305 09/22/23 08:03 PM 09/22/23 08:03 PM
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tvt59 enthusiast T Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 324 Northport, al.	I I beleave that Bloomers heads make more power than any other conventional LA style head. But I don't know what he sells them for. My AMX weighs 2910 with me in it. It goes 5.94 @114.5 in the 1/8. And 9.43 @ 139 in the 1/4. Have not played with the timing or jetting yet. This is with a unported super victor. I beleave that there's a few more hundredths and 1 more mph to be had in my combo. If you can fit his heads in the budget you'll be glad that you did. Nothing worth anything comes easy. It is always harder to do the right thing. My Grandfather

Re: SB head comparisions, Indy 360 versus ported iron T/A heads? [Re: B3422W5] #3177520 09/23/23 04:27 PM 09/23/23 04:27 PM
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b1dartsport super stock Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 982 western pennsylvania	Originally Posted by B3422W5 Vote here for the Bloomer heads Rod and Vic Bloomer designed and sell They are a factory replacement type head( like an Edelbrock) that take all factory type parts( headers, intakes, rocker gear, etc) Make excellent power as delivered( fully CNC’ed, 2.08 valve, springs of choice) I am very happy with the set I have. A friend is running them on his 2880 pound AMX, and has been as quick as 5.94 I believe at 113+, just the way they come. My best with them is in my signature, plenty more I could do(bigger and or roller cam) but with stock block I don’t want to push any further. I took ported Eddie’s off, swapped on these heads and new headers, have thus far picked up 3 tenths over 5 mph. How much did you pay for your Bloomer Heads?

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