wiring/terminals Q
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Wiring up the stock car. other than the battery to the main cutoff then to the starter which are large welding cables, for general wiring (alt/reg/ignition) is it acceptable to crimp on the terminals or should I crimp & solder them? these are 10 gauge (alt to battery) & the rest are smaller (alt field/reg/ignition) & the crimp on terminals are cheap overseas ones which is all I could find at the time. thank you for your time. RR
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Re: wiring/terminals Q
[Re: RapidRobert]
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09/01/23 10:54 AM
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Crimps work fine as long as they are properly done. Its a personal preference
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Re: wiring/terminals Q
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yes that is what I did, removed the plastic covers. I did start to solder em but my small soldering iron is not hot enough & I would have to go get one
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Re: wiring/terminals Q
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I should have mentioned that I buy non-insulated terminals; easier on the hands than cutting those plastic covers off I Crimp/Solder and heat shrink with adhesive lined tube...every size. I use non insulated connectors from Del-City but there are other suppliers.
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Re: wiring/terminals Q
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Yes, save yourself headaches and get one of the "ratcheting" crimpers. I got a pair off Amazon for about $30.
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Re: wiring/terminals Q
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I should have mentioned that I buy non-insulated terminals; easier on the hands than cutting those plastic covers off I Crimp/Solder and heat shrink with adhesive lined tube...every size. I use non insulated connectors from Del-City but there are other suppliers. Another vote for Del-City non insulated connectors and good quality shrink sleeve. I crimp, solder, and shrink all terminals. Gus
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Re: wiring/terminals Q
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Last edited by Cab_Burge; 09/01/23 09:59 PM.
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Re: wiring/terminals Q
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Uninsulated terminals, crimped, heat shrunk. I haven't soldered any of it in years.
2 ga battery cable, tops. Once the engine starts, anything bigger is just dead weight,
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Re: wiring/terminals Q
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Good comprehensive info! I will make some changes. thanks guys. RR
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Re: wiring/terminals Q
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Do not solder. Not a good idea. Ton of info on the net for reference. Tinning the wire is fine, but not a full solder joint.
A quality lug properly crimped will be the best solution. Non-insulated lugs are best.
Last edited by markz528; 09/02/23 12:11 PM.
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Re: wiring/terminals Q
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Do not solder. Not a good idea. Ton of info on the net for reference. Tinning the wire is fine, but not a full solder joint.
A quality lug properly crimped will be the best solution. Non-insulated lugs are best. What is your reasoning about not soldering? Corrosion affects many electrical circuit throughout our country that have humidity levels above 35% most of the time Soldering eliminates that Corrosion is an issue with soldering. Very difficult to remove all the flux from a solder joint. The left over flux will cause corrosion over time. Proper crimp with a proper heat shrink (sealant filled heat shrink is best) addresses the corrosion issues. Biggest problem is cracking. The solder does not do well in vibration environments and a car is a vibration environment. Bad connections have caused my company millions of dollars in failures over the past decade. We put a team together that addressed the connection problems . The conclusion is a proper sized good quality lug properly crimped is the solution.
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Re: wiring/terminals Q
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FWIW I order most my wiring supplies Del City as well. I also use Duetsch connectors for all my stuff.
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