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1970 Charger OEM Disc Brake Caliper Location #3142160
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Redoing my 70 Charger and not sure if the calipers should go on the front side of the rotor or rear of the rotor. I have everything together and am now second guessing things. I pulled the service manual to check something and it looks like they show the caliper to the rear of rotor (passenger side caliper is closer to the door). I have it back together the opposite (passenger side caliper to closer to front bumper).

Does anyone have any pictures of some that they are certain are the factory set up? I already googled a bunch of pictures and some are showing each way but all I have found are aftermarket and then seen a couple of restored pictures and it looks like they are using A Body style with the sliders on them. I do have some pictures of an all original 71 satellite I parted and they are showing to the front like I have mine put back together but I do not have any pictures of a 70 B Body. Looking at old pictures of my car it looks like the calipers are in the front but the Crager ss wheels are on it and i'm not positive.

Thanks for any help, again I have done several searches and can't find anything original. Hope I am explaining it the right way.

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They go to the front,


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They go towards the rear.


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Front 70 Cuda. Also hiding place for my MSD coil. Lol

My calipers are 70 but the disc are the later bigger bearing hubs.

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Front. Part of the reason why the sway bar was redesigned was to make room for the single piston caliper.


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Originally Posted by ruderunner
Front. Part of the reason why the sway bar was redesigned was to make room for the single piston caliper.


This! Front side

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Swapping the spindles so the calipers mount behind the spindles moves that weight to the rear which help the cars I've done that on stop and corner better. The skinny front drag tires didn't lock up as easy after moving them shruggy
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Thanks so much guys, I appreciate it. Glad I don't have to take it all back apart.

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Originally Posted by 6PKRTSE
They go towards the rear.


The 70 Charger FSM shows them mounted to the rear.

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70-72 KH Single piston was B and E body. So assuming that these are original they would be front mounted, but not sure how they could even be mounted in the rear. Spindles and Calipers were Right/Left specific.

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Originally Posted by dragon slayer
70-72 KH Single piston was B and E body. So assuming that these are original they would be front mounted, but not sure how they could even be mounted in the rear. Spindles and Calipers were Right/Left specific.


I can only state what the FSM shows. Was 69 disc to the rear? Could there be an up to and after build? Parts manual may clear this up.

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Originally Posted by NITROUSN
Originally Posted by dragon slayer
70-72 KH Single piston was B and E body. So assuming that these are original they would be front mounted, but not sure how they could even be mounted in the rear. Spindles and Calipers were Right/Left specific.


I can only state what the FSM shows. Was 69 disc to the rear? Could there be an up to and after build? Parts manual may clear this up.


69 down calipers were to the rear , 70 they moved to the front .

The spindles are not side specific as far as I know ... but I don't know everything shruggy


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I can not say for sure front or back because from an engineering standpoint they are the same.

BUT

I can tell you that the brake hoses will only work one way.

If you mount the caliper and and hose, when turning the tire side to side it will be obvious if the hose is in it's natural position or overly stretched/kinked.

Make sure you mount the calipers with the bleeder up top.

That is how I have determined it when building a car from a box of parts.

Hope it helps.

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i think Mopar switch disc brakes in mid year 1969 on their B Bodies from the 4 piston Kelsey Hayes to the later larger single piston disc brakes confused shruggy
I did a frame off restoration on a 1969 Charger 500 in the mid to late 1980s for a lady who husband I had done some work for before he was killed in a road racing accident, I believe all of those cars (1969 Charger 500) were bult in late 1968 before Christmas, the 1969 Charger Daytona 500 were built after that..
My message is I think that car had the early K.H 4 piston disc brakes, but that was a long time ago and I may be mixing up memory as I had a early production 1970 Charger R/T V code car that i was working on back then also shruggy work


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Cab your way off. Not sure why necessary to post to a thread when you're just guessing. 67-69 B bodies and your 69 Charger 500 where BENDIX 4 caliper. The KH 4 piston were A body. No mid year change. 67-69 B body Bendix with 11.02" rotor. The whole set up of spindles and calipers and rotors are different in 70-72. No mix or match of parts. 70 B &E started the KH single piston with 10.98" rotors.

Yes the parts are side specific except rotors. Caliper brackets, Calipers to position bleed/hose in correct spot and spindles. Think about it. If you move the driver spindle with caliper forward to the passenger side the caliper winds up in the rear.

The 67-69 system seemed to be limited in production and part support. By the mid 90s rotors were not available. I am sure a lot of the early cars had a mismatch of parts installed trying to get them driveable if the original rotors were shot. Even today, you can only buy a rotor disc and must salvage a hub to restore the 6-69 Bendix system. Front is correct for OEM 70-72 B body.

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My 69 Roadrunner had 4 piston disc mounted to front. I changed to the big rotors and single piston.


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Originally Posted by ruderunner
My 69 Roadrunner had 4 piston disc mounted to front. I changed to the big rotors and single piston.


69 Is to the rear. FSM clearly states the Bendix and KH are mounted to the rear of the steering axis. FSM illustrates it also. Parts manual also shows it. 69 also had a short steel brake line from the hose to the caliper. 70 went to the front and the hose screwed directly into the caliper.

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Originally Posted by NITROUSN
Originally Posted by 6PKRTSE
They go towards the rear.


The 70 Charger FSM shows them mounted to the rear.


I know, that's why I asked the question. I'm leaving them in the front. Thanks for all of your help guys!

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Let me throw this out there, where does the hard line come to? Ahead or behind the knuckle?.

My understanding is the hose should cross the steering axis, so hard line at back means caliper to front and vice versa.


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Originally Posted by ruderunner
Let me throw this out there, where does the hard line come to? Ahead or behind the knuckle?.

My understanding is the hose should cross the steering axis, so hard line at back means caliper to front and vice versa.


Front of knuckle has hose screwed into the caliper.
Rear of knuckle has a short steel line between the hose and the caliper.
I posted differences in the hoses above.

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