Re: Factory fast ratio steering boxes
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Original quick ratio steering boxes have a raised βTAβ in the casting. Pic from the web.
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Re: Factory fast ratio steering boxes (manual)
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Sounds like fast ratio box to me. I had a '66 Barracuda that came with a standard ratio manual box, which was close to 5 turns lock to lock. I bought a fast ratio 16:1 manual box and it looked exactly the same on the outside, but it had a little over 3 turns lock to lock.
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'67 is an abbreviation of 1967 67' is an abbreviation of 67 feet They are not interchangeable.
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Re: Factory fast ratio steering boxes (manual)
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Re: Factory fast ratio steering boxes (manual)
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Firm feel sells a kit to convert from the factory 24:1 ratio to a 20:1 or a 16:1. It was very easy to do.
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Re: Factory fast ratio steering boxes (manual)
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It would have been an upgrade / modification, Chrysler sold assemblies & kits;
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Re: Factory fast ratio steering boxes (manual)
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Re: Factory fast ratio steering boxes
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Original quick ratio steering boxes have a raised βTAβ in the casting. Pic from the web. Nope. I ordered a '69 Barracuda with fast steering back in the fall of 1968 and still have it. There's no "TA" on the casting. It does have a green paint daub and some stenciled numbers/letters: "E0919G".
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Re: Factory fast ratio steering boxes
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Here's the original factory green paint daub before restoration.
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Re: Factory fast ratio steering boxes
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Original quick ratio steering boxes have a raised βTAβ in the casting. Pic from the web. Nope. I ordered a '69 Barracuda with fast steering back in the fall of 1968 and still have it. There's no "TA" on the casting. It does have a green paint daub and some stenciled numbers/letters: "E0919G". Floyd forgot to put "Power Steering" quick ratio boxes had T/A cast on them. Manual boxes didn't have external marking that I know of but I could be mistaken on that. The standard power steering boxes were 3.5 turns lock to lock. The T/A boxes had modified stops inside to make them 2.5 turns lock to lock. It is still the same turning ratio but the internal stops prevent it from rotating more than 2.5 turns. To make the T/A box power steering cars car turn the wheels to the full amount it also had have the longer pitman arm. Less turns and longer arm made the wheels turn the same angle as the standard power steering boxes. I always felt the T/A boxes were a bandaid approach to faster steering. l think the engineers did the manual boxes correctly by changing the turn ratio and not slapping on a longer pitman arm and limiting the rotations. Kinda hokie,, but I still have one for my Challenger. Good detail on those pics.
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