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IS THERE A TORQUE ON HURST MOUNTING PLATE #3101298 12/11/22 01:34 PM 12/11/22 01:34 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 386 milwaukee superbird OP enthusiast
superbird OP enthusiast Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 386 milwaukee	Does anyone know if there is a torque on the Allen head screws the hold the mounting plate to the tail shaft on a 833. I have spent 20 minutes looking in the service manual and can't find anything

Re: IS THERE A TORQUE ON HURST MOUNTING PLATE [Re: superbird] #3101303 12/11/22 01:52 PM 12/11/22 01:52 PM
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Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,152 Bend,OR USA	I've never heard any mention of a torque number to use on them, measure the thread diameter, I'm thinking it is 3/8 course thread grade five fasteners, but make sure and look up the torque for that size. I wouldn't hesitate to use between 25 and 30 Ft. lbs. with red Loctite Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: IS THERE A TORQUE ON HURST MOUNTING PLATE [Re: Cab_Burge] #3101310 12/11/22 02:06 PM 12/11/22 02:06 PM
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moparx "Butt Crack Bob" Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 19,383 north of coder	crank 'em up till they break or strip the threads, then back 'em off 1/2 a thread................... [i couldn't resist ! ]

Re: IS THERE A TORQUE ON HURST MOUNTING PLATE [Re: superbird] #3101328 12/11/22 03:02 PM 12/11/22 03:02 PM
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Sinitro master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,439 So Cal	Originally Posted by superbird Does anyone know if there is a torque on the Allen head screws the hold the mounting plate to the tail shaft on a 833. I have spent 20 minutes looking in the service manual and can't find anything Hurst specs are 10 lbs... Just my $0.02...

Re: IS THERE A TORQUE ON HURST MOUNTING PLATE [Re: Sinitro] #3101334 12/11/22 03:16 PM 12/11/22 03:16 PM
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Sniper master S Joined: May 2019 Posts: 6,237 nowhere	Are you screwing into aluminum? Then be very careful you select the right spec otherwise your next post will be "should I use a helicoil?" https://www.engineersedge.com/torque_table_sae.htm

Re: IS THERE A TORQUE ON HURST MOUNTING PLATE [Re: Sniper] #3101363 12/11/22 05:08 PM 12/11/22 05:08 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,152 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,152 Bend,OR USA	The early NP833 main cases and tail shaft housing are cast steel, the adapter is cast aluminum with two mounting holes through them to hold the adapter onto the tail shaft housings Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: IS THERE A TORQUE ON HURST MOUNTING PLATE [Re: Cab_Burge] #3101428 12/11/22 08:50 PM 12/11/22 08:50 PM
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PhillyRag top fuel P Joined: May 2006 Posts: 1,754 Phila	Originally Posted by Cab_Burge The early NP833 main cases and tail shaft housing are cast steel, the adapter is cast aluminum with two mounting holes through them to hold the adapter onto the tail shaft housings Some Serviceable Loctite and that will be fine, with a good tightening by hand. No need to over-think such things.

Re: IS THERE A TORQUE ON HURST MOUNTING PLATE [Re: Cab_Burge] #3101466 12/11/22 10:55 PM 12/11/22 10:55 PM
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TJP I Live Here T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,338 Omaha Ne	Originally Posted by Cab_Burge I've never heard any mention of a torque number to use on them, measure the thread diameter, I'm thinking it is 3/8 course thread grade five fasteners, but make sure and look up the torque for that size. I wouldn't hesitate to use between 25 and 30 Ft. lbs. with red Loctite I would also Loctite (Red or Blue should be fine) the shifter mounting bolts. Do remember to heat the fasteners on the mounting plate if you need to remove it later. I have had the allens round out if one tries to remove them without a little heat. it doesn't take a lot but really helps in removal without destroying the fastener Last edited by TJP; 12/11/22 10:58 PM. www.tandmautomotive-omaha.com

Re: IS THERE A TORQUE ON HURST MOUNTING PLATE [Re: TJP] #3101522 12/12/22 09:40 AM 12/12/22 09:40 AM
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superbird OP enthusiast Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 386 milwaukee	Thanks guys. I wanted to ask cause i have a tendency to over tighten stuff

Re: IS THERE A TORQUE ON HURST MOUNTING PLATE [Re: superbird] #3101704 12/12/22 08:27 PM 12/12/22 08:27 PM
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71GTX471 top fuel 7 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,893 Harriman NY	A true machinic knows tight vs too tight.

Re: IS THERE A TORQUE ON HURST MOUNTING PLATE [Re: 71GTX471] #3101745 12/12/22 09:50 PM 12/12/22 09:50 PM
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TJP I Live Here T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,338 Omaha Ne	Originally Posted by 71GTX471 A true machinic knows tight vs too tight. My elbow pops LOL I was just thinking a Torx socket will take more torque but not sure how much www.tandmautomotive-omaha.com

Re: IS THERE A TORQUE ON HURST MOUNTING PLATE [Re: Sniper] #3101810 12/13/22 01:27 AM 12/13/22 01:27 AM
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MoonshineMattK enthusiast M Joined: Sep 2017 Posts: 287 NW Illinois	Originally Posted by Sniper Are you screwing into aluminum? Then be very careful you select the right spec otherwise your next post will be "should I use a helicoil?" https://www.engineersedge.com/torque_table_sae.htm I'd recommend Time Sert. Hopefully it doesn't come to that.

Re: IS THERE A TORQUE ON HURST MOUNTING PLATE [Re: 71GTX471] #3101993 12/13/22 04:28 PM 12/13/22 04:28 PM
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Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,152 Bend,OR USA	Originally Posted by 71GTX471 A true machinic knows tight vs too tight. I remember hearing years ago an older mechanic say I have a calibrated elbow when ask why he wasn't using a torque wrench when working on his cars Last edited by Cab_Burge; 12/13/22 04:28 PM. Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: IS THERE A TORQUE ON HURST MOUNTING PLATE [Re: 71GTX471] #3102058 12/13/22 08:28 PM 12/13/22 08:28 PM
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Sniper master S Joined: May 2019 Posts: 6,237 nowhere	Originally Posted by 71GTX471 A true machinic knows tight vs too tight. Appropriate that you misspelled mechanic.

Re: IS THERE A TORQUE ON HURST MOUNTING PLATE [Re: Cab_Burge] #3102837 12/16/22 12:55 PM 12/16/22 12:55 PM
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71GTX471 top fuel 7 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,893 Harriman NY	Originally Posted by Cab_Burge Originally Posted by 71GTX471 A true machinic knows tight vs too tight. I remember hearing years ago an older mechanic say I have a calibrated elbow when ask why he wasn't using a torque wrench when working on his cars It just comes naturally with many years of experience, but there are many cases a torque wrench is mandatory such as K frame to frame rail bolts. Last edited by 71GTX471; 12/16/22 12:56 PM.

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