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IS THERE A TORQUE ON HURST MOUNTING PLATE

Posted By: superbird

IS THERE A TORQUE ON HURST MOUNTING PLATE - 12/11/22 05:34 PM

Does anyone know if there is a torque on the Allen head screws the hold
the mounting plate to the tail shaft on a 833.
I have spent 20 minutes looking in the service manual
and can't find anything
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: IS THERE A TORQUE ON HURST MOUNTING PLATE - 12/11/22 05:52 PM

I've never heard any mention of a torque number to use on them, measure the thread diameter, I'm thinking it is 3/8 course thread grade five fasteners, but make sure scope and look up the torque for that size.
I wouldn't hesitate to use between 25 and 30 Ft. lbs. with red Loctite scope wrench luck grin up
Posted By: moparx

Re: IS THERE A TORQUE ON HURST MOUNTING PLATE - 12/11/22 06:06 PM

crank 'em up till they break or strip the threads, then back 'em off 1/2 a thread................... biggrin [i couldn't resist ! boogie]
beer
Posted By: Sinitro

Re: IS THERE A TORQUE ON HURST MOUNTING PLATE - 12/11/22 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by superbird
Does anyone know if there is a torque on the Allen head screws the hold
the mounting plate to the tail shaft on a 833.
I have spent 20 minutes looking in the service manual
and can't find anything


Hurst specs are 10 lbs...

Just my $0.02... wink
Posted By: Sniper

Re: IS THERE A TORQUE ON HURST MOUNTING PLATE - 12/11/22 07:16 PM

Are you screwing into aluminum? Then be very careful you select the right spec otherwise your next post will be "should I use a helicoil?"

https://www.engineersedge.com/torque_table_sae.htm
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: IS THERE A TORQUE ON HURST MOUNTING PLATE - 12/11/22 09:08 PM

The early NP833 main cases and tail shaft housing are cast steel, the adapter is cast aluminum with two mounting holes through them to hold the adapter onto the tail shaft housings wrench
Posted By: PhillyRag

Re: IS THERE A TORQUE ON HURST MOUNTING PLATE - 12/12/22 12:50 AM

Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
The early NP833 main cases and tail shaft housing are cast steel, the adapter is cast aluminum with two mounting holes through them to hold the adapter onto the tail shaft housings wrench


Some Serviceable Loctite and that will be fine, with a good tightening by hand. No need to over-think such things.
Posted By: TJP

Re: IS THERE A TORQUE ON HURST MOUNTING PLATE - 12/12/22 02:55 AM

Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
I've never heard any mention of a torque number to use on them, measure the thread diameter, I'm thinking it is 3/8 course thread grade five fasteners, but make sure scope and look up the torque for that size.
I wouldn't hesitate to use between 25 and 30 Ft. lbs. with red Loctite


iagree

I would also Loctite (Red or Blue should be fine) the shifter mounting bolts. Do remember to heat the fasteners on the mounting plate if you need to remove it later. I have had the allens round out if one tries to remove them without a little heat. it doesn't take a lot but really helps in removal without destroying the fastener wink
Posted By: superbird

Re: IS THERE A TORQUE ON HURST MOUNTING PLATE - 12/12/22 01:40 PM

Thanks guys.
I wanted to ask cause i have a tendency to over tighten stuff
Posted By: 71GTX471

Re: IS THERE A TORQUE ON HURST MOUNTING PLATE - 12/13/22 12:27 AM

A true machinic knows tight vs too tight.
Posted By: TJP

Re: IS THERE A TORQUE ON HURST MOUNTING PLATE - 12/13/22 01:50 AM

Originally Posted by 71GTX471
A true machinic knows tight vs too tight.


My elbow pops smile LOL beer

I was just thinking a Torx socket will take more torque but not sure how much shruggy beer
Posted By: MoonshineMattK

Re: IS THERE A TORQUE ON HURST MOUNTING PLATE - 12/13/22 05:27 AM

Originally Posted by Sniper
Are you screwing into aluminum? Then be very careful you select the right spec otherwise your next post will be "should I use a helicoil?"

https://www.engineersedge.com/torque_table_sae.htm



I'd recommend Time Sert. Hopefully it doesn't come to that.
Posted By: Cab_Burge

Re: IS THERE A TORQUE ON HURST MOUNTING PLATE - 12/13/22 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by 71GTX471
A true machinic knows tight vs too tight.
I remember hearing years ago an older mechanic say I have a calibrated elbow when ask why he wasn't using a torque wrench when working on his cars work shruggy
Posted By: Sniper

Re: IS THERE A TORQUE ON HURST MOUNTING PLATE - 12/14/22 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by 71GTX471
A true machinic knows tight vs too tight.


Appropriate that you misspelled mechanic.
Posted By: 71GTX471

Re: IS THERE A TORQUE ON HURST MOUNTING PLATE - 12/16/22 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
Originally Posted by 71GTX471
A true machinic knows tight vs too tight.
I remember hearing years ago an older mechanic say I have a calibrated elbow when ask why he wasn't using a torque wrench when working on his cars work shruggy


It just comes naturally with many years of experience, but there are many cases a torque wrench is mandatory such as K frame to frame rail bolts.
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