Re: Block sleeves
[Re: cudaman1969]
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12/04/22 02:04 PM
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Last edited by Cab_Burge; 12/05/22 05:48 PM.
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Re: Block sleeves
[Re: polyspheric]
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12/04/22 05:33 PM
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I thing you dropped a decimal number poly. I don't believe i have ever checked a factory block that was only 0.0625 thick. 3/16 I would buy or even 1/8
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Re: Block sleeves
[Re: SCATPACK 1]
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12/04/22 08:24 PM
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Smaller than 1/16" invites distortion when installing. Thicker than 1/16" invites transecting the water jacket. Only use a bigger size if you know it's been done before.
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Re: Block sleeves
[Re: varunner]
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12/04/22 09:07 PM
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the melling sleeve for a 440 is p/n CSL121. it is 3/32 and an outside Dia. of 4.510
There is a 1/8 version but no 1/16.
Last edited by B1MAXX; 12/04/22 09:09 PM.
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Re: Block sleeves
[Re: B1MAXX]
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12/05/22 01:12 PM
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Also, melling makes thousands of standard sleeves, so yes you can pick a different one for a different application, if desired. This^^^^. Get the thickest sleeve you can with the closest nominal bore size you can find.
Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
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Re: Block sleeves
[Re: madscientist]
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12/05/22 01:20 PM
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On typical small and big block V8 engines, I never installed anything thinner than an 1/8" sleeve.
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Re: Block sleeves
[Re: cudaman1969]
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12/05/22 05:47 PM
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Well good answers but I didn’t want the cat out of the bag at first. My bore is 4.53, pistons are $1900 new, I have a set of 4.31 on shelf so I figured sleeve it down to that size, not even boring the block just get the nominal outside size, drive em in with green loctite then bore-hone to fit pistons. If you want to distort the bores drive them in, if not wanting to drive them in chill them in the freezer several days or pack them in dry ice and then drop them in. Make sure the O.D. of the new sleeves is less than .0030 of the bore sizes, check all 8 bi=ores before ordering the sleeves. Most of the better auto machine shops I've used out here leave a small step at the bottom of the bores when prepping the blocks for sleeves
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Re: Block sleeves
[Re: an8sec70cuda]
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12/06/22 12:41 AM
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On typical small and big block V8 engines, I never installed anything thinner than an 1/8" sleeve. I've used the 3/32 sleeves many times and always chill them in the freezer, they're not always round so you have to take an average.
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Re: Block sleeves
[Re: Scully]
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12/06/22 09:30 AM
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Yes to leaving a step at the bottom of the bore so the sleeve can't drop. I'd throw the block in the hot tank for about 20 minutes and put the sleeve in the freezer for several hours. Take the block out and as soon as it was dry, drive the sleeve in w/ green loctite/sleevetite. I was concerned about the moisture from it being cold w/ the loctite, but never had an issue. Repaired one really bad 454 chevy block out of a tow truck once that had a huge piece of cylinder wall missing. Concerned enough that I told the owner I'd try it, but if it failed it was his, lol. It ran for several years that I know of after I fixed it.
CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75 '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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