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Re: Found it!....Stupid Hemi [Re: Dragula] #3088464
10/23/22 02:28 AM
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Maybe I'm wrong but I've read that some Indy rockers, depending on when they were made, lack oiling holes.

The stock ductile rockers I'm using have an oil hole for the pushrods and the valve tip.

I'm running them with no restrictors and pushrod oiling. Still went from 20-50 to 5-30 oil due to high pressure.



I would think you could achieve what you need by adding oiling holes to your current rockers and removing any restrictors.



Aside from that, not sure of the exact details of your springs/setup but wouldn't usually correlate a dual spring with damper as a high end spring for high lift street use.

I like PSI ML springs with exceldyne locks/retainers for whatever it's worth.


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Re: Found it!....Stupid Hemi [Re: INTMD8] #3093486
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So in mocking this up, I am wanting some custom ARP fasteners. I faxed over a quick CAD drawing of what I want to ARP, and then called them....Man are they backed up on custom orders....Like 6 months I am told....

So this may take all winter....

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'70 Cuda,...605 Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Found it!....Stupid Hemi [Re: Dragula] #3093677
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I know people that have had ARP studs on back order for a lot longer than 6 months.


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Re: Found it!....Stupid Hemi [Re: rickseeman] #3095661
11/19/22 11:58 PM
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So to fix an AFR problem on the Hemi, I had the slip fit header tubes welded up between snow storms....I will post pics when painted again...

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'70 Cuda,...605 Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Found it!....Stupid Hemi [Re: Dragula] #3095674
11/20/22 01:43 AM
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I hope they still install easily luck


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Re: Found it!....Stupid Hemi [Re: Cab_Burge] #3095730
11/20/22 10:11 AM
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My Headers are welded and you will have to pull the bars on an E Body to get them out of the car but could just leave them laying around the bars when you pull a motor. Bartons stuff is very very nice. To me if 5 K fixes the problem and more research is needed before you spend the 5K for the Barton set up that is much cheaper than a costly repair to a set of heads or a complete motor. How much is in your motor now, so it is like buying an insurance policy. The spray bars need to be looked at and cleaned also. This type of motor like said above is really not built for the street. Even the 1966/7 motor had next to nothing for cam lift, 68/69 a little more and 70/71 went to Hyd.to make them live on the street. These motors need there yearly once over and checked. One other thing, I believe in a lot of Oil both quanity and quality and pressure/volume.Maybe not what a race motor will get in pressure but still a high number.This is not a quick fix untill the problem is nailed down to what has happened or your problem will reoccure again and again so make the change that will fix it once. It takes time so take that time withour any emotions to cloud your decisions. I say that because we all have been in a similiar situation and toss money that is not needed trying for a quick fix. Good Luck


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Re: Found it!....Stupid Hemi [Re: Cab_Burge] #3095756
11/20/22 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
I hope they still install easily luck


They pop in and out, no problem....I have a MF front end....nothing in the way...


'70 Cuda,...605 Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Found it!....Stupid Hemi [Re: Dragula] #3095764
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I welded up my Hooker Super Comp Hemi headers on my E Body also. I have a AlterKation from suspension so no torsion bars either.


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1970 Challenger R/T, 528 Hemi
1970 Charger 500 S.E. 440 4 BBL
1970 Plymouth Road Runner 383
1974 Chrysler New Yorker 440
1996 2500 RAM 488 V-10 4X4
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Re: Found it!....Stupid Hemi [Re: 6PKRTSE] #3096044
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Headers all repainted....between blizzards here.

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'70 Cuda,...605 Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Found it!....Stupid Hemi [Re: Dragula] #3096265
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Would have been a good place to install V band clamps. Could still take a couple tubes out for starter replacement.


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11/22/22 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by JERICOGTX
Would have been a good place to install V band clamps. Could still take a couple tubes out for starter replacement.


I can pull the starter with just loosening the header slightly...It doesn't have to be removed, or any of the tubes...


'70 Cuda,...605 Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Found it!....Stupid Hemi [Re: Dragula] #3096318
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Originally Posted by Dragula
Originally Posted by JERICOGTX
Would have been a good place to install V band clamps. Could still take a couple tubes out for starter replacement.


I can pull the starter with just loosening the header slightly...It doesn't have to be removed, or any of the tubes...


Yes, same here. I can change my starter without removing the header. I did you V Band clamps on the collectors.

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1970 Charger R/T S.E. 440 Six Pack
1970 Challenger R/T, 528 Hemi
1970 Charger 500 S.E. 440 4 BBL
1970 Plymouth Road Runner 383
1974 Chrysler New Yorker 440
1996 2500 RAM 488 V-10 4X4
2004 3500 Dually Cummins 4x4
2012 Challenger R/T Classic.
Re: Found it!....Stupid Hemi [Re: 6PKRTSE] #3096356
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Mines pretty easy to work on considering the big Hemi in there....

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'70 Cuda,...605 Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
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Originally Posted by Dragula
Mines pretty easy to work on considering the big Hemi in there....
When I first saw this picture all those pipes it reminded me of snake mating season grin haha
Don't get weird when you get old, like me please whistling


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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
Originally Posted by Dragula
Mines pretty easy to work on considering the big Hemi in there....
When I first saw this picture all those pipes it reminded me of snake mating season grin haha
Don't get weird when you get old, like me please whistling



HAHAHAHA !!!!! hey Cab, i think we are supposed to get weird when we get old ! panic laugh2

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Just about ready to start testing....Need more parts. ..

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'70 Cuda,...605 Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
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Smart and didn't cost you 5K, I like it! up

Hope this solves your spring problems, what springs have you gone with?

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Originally Posted by powertrip
Smart and didn't cost you 5K, I like it! up

Hope this solves your spring problems, what springs have you gone with?


I had Pacalloy and then Howards....It does not seem brand specific.....Would love a set of Bartons, but not in the budget right now....Hell, if this works, I don't even have to put a new cam I bought in it...


'70 Cuda,...605 Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Found it!....Stupid Hemi [Re: Dragula] #3101403
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Originally Posted by Dragula
Mines pretty easy to work on considering the big Hemi in there....


That header shot from the bottom is beautiful. Nice car for all the work you have put into it.


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