Re: DRIVING A COURSE W/ OLD IRON
[Re: 68rrunner]
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07/20/21 10:52 AM
07/20/21 10:52 AM
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Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 679 Los Osos, Ca
CKessel
mopar
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mopar
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 679
Los Osos, Ca
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Car is good, ran it a Sears Point earlier this year to start shaking it out. I had planned for the 341 Challenge again this year, but I'm not sure that the car is there. I think its mad after 10 years of storage. I've got a fresh 438 I just got back from the machine shop that I want to start messing with MPFI and the CNP stuff that AndyF and some of the guys figured out. If I an get the 4.22's swapped out and track down a funky shimmy its sporadically having, I think I'll be at a couple more NASA events to close out the year and have the car ready for a 2022 season. Cool. Will watch for updates. My car has been at a standstill since late 17 because we moved to the central coast. Built a garage, which is done and the car is inside after 2 years being out but covered up, but I still have some stuff to finish for the final inspection. Had been working on it in Ramona but had to stop due to move. Can't wait to get back at it. My focus is going to be time at Buttonwillow, some autox and a trip here and there to Famosa since its close.
Carl Kessel
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Re: DRIVING A COURSE W/ OLD IRON
[Re: Kern Dog]
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07/20/21 03:15 PM
07/20/21 03:15 PM
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Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md
Mr.Yuck
Not enough dumb comments...yet
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Not enough dumb comments...yet
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Brookeville, Md
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Get the car as light as possible and ditch the t-bar front end and you'll be fine. F A L S E. lol ok go run a really heavy car.
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Re: DRIVING A COURSE W/ OLD IRON
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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07/21/21 12:49 AM
07/21/21 12:49 AM
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jcc
If you can't dazzle em with diamonds..
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If you can't dazzle em with diamonds..
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The lighter wallet will compensate for the heavy car?
" All sorts of things can happen when you are open to new Ideas" Inventor of Kevlar
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Re: DRIVING A COURSE W/ OLD IRON
[Re: gzig5]
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07/23/21 11:59 AM
07/23/21 11:59 AM
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Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 679 Los Osos, Ca
CKessel
mopar
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mopar
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 679
Los Osos, Ca
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I didn't separate the panels, just drilled through one layer. My method of working this over had no engineering or FEA done, just me looking at going hmmm, just like in the old days. On the idler arm mount, I did got through two layers to get to main portion of the K. Outer hole was larger than next one. Filled it up like a soft serve cone. I did cut pockets at the control arm mount, you can see them in the upper corners. Got some weld around them on the inside. I picked up some structural washers from Fastenal to put on both sides of the tube. Tacked them on then formed them around the K, finished with welding all around. On the front side of the K, where the shaft pokes through, I welded the washers on that came with the FF greasable shafts then put larger flats around them and welded them on too. The strut rod pocket got attention. If you look inside the k, there is not much there. I boxed that area in with some metal plus I put some in so I could get some welds through the topside, engine side of the k, that attached to the added on pieces inside. For cutting all of the holes, I used my Blair Rotabroach set, the 1/4-3/4" set. I did add a skid plate too. I have not gotten to the topside of it yet addressing the steering box mount but that will get done in the future when I get back to work on it. There are also some areas around the engine mount brackets that need to get trimmed of excess material. Even after I had the K tanked two times, there was still a fair amount of grunge hiding in places that showed up with the weld heat. I ended up taking the torch to the inside and burned out as much as possible from any inner areas. Lots of smoke! I do have more pics of the K. Posting them on here is a pain. If you want, pm me with your email and I can send more to you.
Carl Kessel
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Re: DRIVING A COURSE W/ OLD IRON
[Re: 68rrunner]
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07/29/21 06:58 PM
07/29/21 06:58 PM
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Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md
Mr.Yuck
Not enough dumb comments...yet
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Not enough dumb comments...yet
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Brookeville, Md
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I hear ya. After I got the car back from paint jail I was so busy driving for Kevin Wesley at the NASA events to get us qualified for Nationals the Road Runner had to sit. Had to drive the new junk before we could play with the old junk. I finally kicked a friends project (68 Dart) out of the garage and that has opened up my opportunities to tinker. Like a lazy idiot, I farmed out what should have some easy work to a shop I trusted and they really set me back. I'm now re-doing a bunch of stuff and my budget for fun stuff took a $12k whack. That plus the new engine (438cid) and my racing budget for the year is kaput. The guys are still trying to drag me out to the track so if I can get the new center section built in time and get the shimmy dialed out, I'll try to make NASA Sanoma in August for a few sessions. what series are you running in NASA? I'd like to do American Iron, but the rules seem limiting on an old Mopar.
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Re: DRIVING A COURSE W/ OLD IRON
[Re: 68rrunner]
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07/29/21 07:52 PM
07/29/21 07:52 PM
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Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md
Mr.Yuck
Not enough dumb comments...yet
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Not enough dumb comments...yet
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Posts: 24,562
Brookeville, Md
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We've been running TT3 as it has the best rules for the older cars. Tires, weight & power are the biggest parameters. is that just against the clock or are there other cars on the track? We like racing with others...
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Re: DRIVING A COURSE W/ OLD IRON
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
#2948807
07/30/21 12:10 PM
07/30/21 12:10 PM
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Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 270 Mountain View, CA
68rrunner
enthusiast
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enthusiast
Joined: Feb 2010
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Mountain View, CA
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We've been running TT3 as it has the best rules for the older cars. Tires, weight & power are the biggest parameters. is that just against the clock or are there other cars on the track? We like racing with others... It's Time Trials so fastest lap wins the day, however its usually pretty crowded for the first 3 sessions of the day. Its wheel to wheel with open passing. Finishing order sets grid for next session, we do rolling starts after a formation lap. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkC3rHEELOc&t=14607sGo to about the 3hour 40min mark. You'll see Kevin pounding around in the Blue Pikes Peak car and me in the White Bilstien car That is Nationals and the last day, so a lot of folks who knew they weren't going to podium didn't even take their cars out of the trailer. At my local events a TT session will be 30-40 cars. Usually hit the back markers after 3-4 laps.
Last edited by 68rrunner; 07/30/21 12:22 PM.
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Re: DRIVING A COURSE W/ OLD IRON
[Re: 68rrunner]
#2948876
07/30/21 03:29 PM
07/30/21 03:29 PM
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Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md
Mr.Yuck
Not enough dumb comments...yet
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Not enough dumb comments...yet
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 24,562
Brookeville, Md
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We've been running TT3 as it has the best rules for the older cars. Tires, weight & power are the biggest parameters. is that just against the clock or are there other cars on the track? We like racing with others... It's Time Trials so fastest lap wins the day, however its usually pretty crowded for the first 3 sessions of the day. Its wheel to wheel with open passing. Finishing order sets grid for next session, we do rolling starts after a formation lap. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkC3rHEELOc&t=14607sGo to about the 3hour 40min mark. You'll see Kevin pounding around in the Blue Pikes Peak car and me in the White Bilstien car That is Nationals and the last day, so a lot of folks who knew they weren't going to podium didn't even take their cars out of the trailer. At my local events a TT session will be 30-40 cars. Usually hit the back markers after 3-4 laps. cool one reason you don't see Mopars (b-body's) in the cheap leagues is initial cost, nobody wants to destroy a Gen II or III b-body
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Re: DRIVING A COURSE W/ OLD IRON
[Re: Kern Dog]
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08/08/21 05:47 PM
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Joined: Dec 2003
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jcc
If you can't dazzle em with diamonds..
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If you can't dazzle em with diamonds..
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I have some doors and hoods for those early toads. THose cars are hideous! Beauty is still in the eye of the beholder methinks.
" All sorts of things can happen when you are open to new Ideas" Inventor of Kevlar
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