Re: Anything wrong with a Fram PH8a for racecar?
[Re: CSK]
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05/27/20 03:59 PM
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You don't remember all the hype on T.V. in the late 1950 and early 1960 selling those add on oil filters that used T.P rolls instead of using standard oil filters? I wish I could remember the name of that company, I never used them either Man I must be getting old, HUH DOC Frantz was one. That sounds correct, THANKS Amsoil Sold the same thing , not sure if they still do. No they do not. In fact if you cut one of their filters open they are identical to a wix racing filter or napa gould.
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Re: Anything wrong with a Fram PH8a for racecar?
[Re: CSK]
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05/27/20 04:17 PM
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You don't remember all the hype on T.V. in the late 1950 and early 1960 selling those add on oil filters that used T.P rolls instead of using standard oil filters? I wish I could remember the name of that company, I never used them either Man I must be getting old, HUH DOC Frantz was one. That sounds correct, THANKS Amsoil Sold the same thing , not sure if they still do. This is not a full flow system any more. The Franz and Amsoil are now a 'Bypass' oiling system where a small amount of oil is tee'ed off the main filtered oil feed to go thru the Toilet Paper. It can not flow enough to supply the engine in full flow. The Bypass'ed oil is filtered down to 2 microns and then just dumped back into the oil pan. A Fram PH8 and Wix 51515 are about 20 microns. Tests have said that anything above 5 microns is bad for long term use. The Fram PH8A, HP1 and Wix 51515R are about 40 microns and the idea is that you will dump the oil after so many races, RACES not street miles.
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Re: Anything wrong with a Fram PH8a for racecar?
[Re: tboomer]
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05/29/20 04:04 PM
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Ok...So my wife picked up a NAPA Gold for my 64 Dodge and one for my 95 Ram 1500 with a 5.9 magnum. The total for the pair was 17.00 without sales tax. Fram filters sell for a lot less at the farm store. I always run Wix or Napa Gold on the drag car but the old Ram I usually put a cheap farm store filter on it. That truck has almost 190000 miles on it and no problem with oil pressure... I think most off brand filters are made better than the Fram. I would use anything else than a Fram.
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Re: Anything wrong with a Fram PH8a for racecar?
[Re: mopars4ever]
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05/29/20 04:50 PM
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Menards has PH8A for $3.45 each. Maybe Grizzly will go buy a gross of them!
"Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind"
'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion. '74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost conversion. 2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
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Re: Anything wrong with a Fram PH8a for racecar?
[Re: Guitar Jones]
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05/29/20 05:17 PM
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[spoiler][/spoiler] Ok...So my wife picked up a NAPA Gold for my 64 Dodge and one for my 95 Ram 1500 with a 5.9 magnum. The total for the pair was 17.00 without sales tax. Fram filters sell for a lot less at the farm store. I always run Wix or Napa Gold on the drag car but the old Ram I usually put a cheap farm store filter on it. That truck has almost 190000 miles on it and no problem with oil pressure... I think most off brand filters are made better than the Fram. I would use anything else than a Fram. So BANJOnes .... anything else ??!! ... even considering mopXs suggestion of Dollar Tree TP ?
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Re: Anything wrong with a Fram PH8a for racecar?
[Re: Guitar Jones]
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05/29/20 05:20 PM
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Menards has PH8A for $3.45 each. Maybe Grizzly will go buy a gross of them! No GRIZZZ cleaned out the local Dollar General!
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Re: Anything wrong with a Fram PH8a for racecar?
[Re: tboomer]
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05/29/20 05:21 PM
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Thanks guys..Got enough filters on hand John?? Ya I’m good. It’s nice getting a heads up call and getting them at 40-50% off during their biannual sale. She’s a real cutie and great at looking up and getting me parts for my 50 year old junk cars.
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Re: Anything wrong with a Fram PH8a for racecar?
[Re: dOrk !]
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05/29/20 06:25 PM
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[spoiler][/spoiler] Ok...So my wife picked up a NAPA Gold for my 64 Dodge and one for my 95 Ram 1500 with a 5.9 magnum. The total for the pair was 17.00 without sales tax. Fram filters sell for a lot less at the farm store. I always run Wix or Napa Gold on the drag car but the old Ram I usually put a cheap farm store filter on it. That truck has almost 190000 miles on it and no problem with oil pressure... I think most off brand filters are made better than the Fram. I would use anything else than a Fram. So BANJOnes .... anything else ??!! ... even considering mopXs suggestion of Dollar Tree TP ? No TP is too far scarce these days to even consider that! I remember seeing those ads as a kid and couldn't understand how that would not come apart and clog up the sump. I mean hell even my finger breaks through that stuff once in awhile.
"Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind"
'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion. '74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost conversion. 2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
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Re: Anything wrong with a Fram PH8a for racecar?
[Re: moparjohn]
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06/30/20 09:22 PM
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I don't think that is a big deal. Looks like they had room for more pleats though.
"Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind"
'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion. '74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost conversion. 2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
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Re: Anything wrong with a Fram PH8a for racecar?
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07/01/20 12:20 PM
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I have a new , from the early 90's HP-1 in my cabinet if anyone wants to buy it --just one, also have 1 direct connection filter in there too and several wix both street and strip versions
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