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Re: Anything wrong with a Fram PH8a for racecar? [Re: ZIPPY] #2777968
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Originally Posted by ZIPPY

Buddy of mine lost oil pressure completely with a K&N.

The tests I have seen have not rated the K&N highly.

Re: Anything wrong with a Fram PH8a for racecar? [Re: Cab_Burge] #2778095
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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
I've cut a bunch of Fram oil filters apart starting back in early 1970s, I stop using them when they went cheap down
Wix only now up, not the high bypass race filters either twocents


I use both types of Wix. I think I'll stock up on more of them....you never know when a company will go the cheap Chinese route (like Fram did).


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Re: Anything wrong with a Fram PH8a for racecar? [Re: jughed] #2778317
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at one time, there was a group buy for WIX filters.
is that still in effect ? [i haven't researched this]
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Re: Anything wrong with a Fram PH8a for racecar? [Re: moparx] #2778323
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Originally Posted by moparx
at one time, there was a group buy for WIX filters.
is that still in effect ? [i haven't researched this]
beer




I get mine locally at napa. The girl that works there calls me twice a year when they have their 40-50 percent off sale. I just bought 125.00 worth for my motorhome, truck, car, and race cars.



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Re: Anything wrong with a Fram PH8a for racecar? [Re: pittsburghracer] #2778330
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yeah john, i just missed that sale this year !
any chance for a heads up when the second one will be ?
my napa is only two miles away.
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Re: Anything wrong with a Fram PH8a for racecar? [Re: moparx] #2778358
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Originally Posted by moparx
yeah john, i just missed that sale this year !
any chance for a heads up when the second one will be ?
my napa is only two miles away.
beer



I posted about it on abodyonly when it started. I will try to remember to remind you buddy.


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Re: Anything wrong with a Fram PH8a for racecar? [Re: moparx] #2778367
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Originally Posted by moparx
at one time, there was a group buy for WIX filters.
is that still in effect ? [i haven't researched this]
beer


Yes there is:

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthread...-filters-for-moparts-members.html#UNREAD

Re: Anything wrong with a Fram PH8a for racecar? [Re: 340Cuda] #2778410
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I was planning to use the Fram PH8A as an initial startup filter with hi-Zinc break-in motor oil... figure ~2-hours max (flat tappet, hyd)... then change the springs, etc... and then throw away that Fram PH8a for a better filter... racing PH1 or other as I've always used throughout the season..

Any opinions on just using the PH8a as a quick break-in then throw away filter?


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Re: Anything wrong with a Fram PH8a for racecar? [Re: Mopar Mitch] #2778413
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Odds are that it will work just fine.

Re: Anything wrong with a Fram PH8a for racecar? [Re: Mopar Mitch] #2778441
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Originally Posted by Mopar Mitch
I was planning to use the Fram PH8A as an initial startup filter with hi-Zinc break-in motor oil... figure ~2-hours max (flat tappet, hyd)... then change the springs, etc... and then throw away that Fram PH8a for a better filter... racing PH1 or other as I've always used throughout the season..

Any opinions on just using the PH8a as a quick break-in then throw away filter?

Are you feeling lucky? devil
Why take a chance work,
Buy and use a good filter on your new motor up twocents
BTW, I run my new motors with flat tappet cams for 20 to 30 minutes at or above 1500 RPM to break in the cam and lifters and then change the oil and filter and cut the filter open for inspection before running the motor again with the new oil and filter up scope
The reason for me doing this is I have had two brand new hydraulic flat tappet camshafts that had no taper ground on the lobes and they both started eating the lobes in those 20 to 30 minutes which was trapped in the Wix oil filters up
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Re: Anything wrong with a Fram PH8a for racecar? [Re: Mopar Mitch] #2778447
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Originally Posted by Mopar Mitch
I was planning to use the Fram PH8A as an initial startup filter with hi-Zinc break-in motor oil... figure ~2-hours max (flat tappet, hyd)... then change the springs, etc... and then throw away that Fram PH8a for a better filter... racing PH1 or other as I've always used throughout the season..

Any opinions on just using the PH8a as a quick break-in then throw away filter?

Why do you hate your engine? laugh2 Why would you spend thousands of dollars on a new engine then cheap out and not spend $6 or $7 for a good filter?


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Re: Anything wrong with a Fram PH8a for racecar? [Re: Cab_Burge] #2778448
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Orange canister of death lol. Never heard that one.

I have used the Fram HP racing filters on my engines before in a pinch and broke them in with whatever is cheap I can get my hands on at the time. Never had one collapse. Mostly I use a system 1 filter.

Honestly I think the Fram filter collapsing thing is the exception not the norm.


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Re: Anything wrong with a Fram PH8a for racecar? [Re: moparacer] #2778462
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Someone from the LEFTY COAST needs a really good filter TO FILTER OUT those excessive smilies ! tsk grin

AND ... if a good filter is required AT ALL it’s during the break in period ... whistling

Re: Anything wrong with a Fram PH8a for racecar? [Re: dIc dOc Deity !] #2778481
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I wonder if that musik guy ever used a TP canister type ... rumor has it that Charmin has the bestest filtering quality’s. !!

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Re: Anything wrong with a Fram PH8a for racecar? [Re: tboomer] #2778532
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You don't remember all the hype on T.V. in the late 1950 and early 1960 selling those add on oil filters that used T.P rolls instead of using standard oil filters?
I wish I could remember the name of that company, I never used them either tsk
Man I must be getting old, HUH DOC grin

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Re: Anything wrong with a Fram PH8a for racecar? [Re: Cab_Burge] #2778565
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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
You don't remember all the hype on T.V. in the late 1950 and early 1960 selling those add on oil filters that used T.P rolls instead of using standard oil filters?
I wish I could remember the name of that company, I never used them either tsk
Man I must be getting old, HUH DOC grin

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Re: Anything wrong with a Fram PH8a for racecar? [Re: Dave_J] #2778582
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Originally Posted by Dave_J
Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
You don't remember all the hype on T.V. in the late 1950 and early 1960 selling those add on oil filters that used T.P rolls instead of using standard oil filters?
I wish I could remember the name of that company, I never used them either tsk
Man I must be getting old, HUH DOC grin

Frantz was one.
That sounds correct, THANKS up


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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
Originally Posted by Dave_J
Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
You don't remember all the hype on T.V. in the late 1950 and early 1960 selling those add on oil filters that used T.P rolls instead of using standard oil filters?
I wish I could remember the name of that company, I never used them either tsk
Man I must be getting old, HUH DOC grin

Frantz was one.
That sounds correct, THANKS up


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Friend used a K & N on a furd , it blew the canister apart and he almost crashed .. I'll pass on those also


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