Re: Max Wedge oil pan
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03/26/20 08:56 PM
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The best working and fit is the 1966 to 1969 street hemi oil pan, been there done that swap on a bunch of 1963 to 1965 B body street drag and race only cars Those pans are about 1 to 2.0 inches deeper than the original air sucking swinging pick up long sump M.W. oil pans on the OEM M.W. motors. I think a 3/8 NPT stock oil pickup for a 1965 to 1970 C body B-R/B motor will fit and work good If your block has been modded for the larger 1/2 NPT then use the stock street Hemi oil pick up
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Re: Max Wedge oil pan
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03/27/20 03:22 PM
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I have a 66 hemi pan on my 63 max wedge clone, and it hangs below the k=member at least an inch or so. That helps, I have a deep sump Milodon that hung down about 3", I shortened the sump 2", but now it only holds 4 quarts of oil to the baffle. The only negative I've read about the Max Wedge pan is you have to modify it to fit a windage tray. I have an issue spending $300 on a pan only to have to blacksmith it.
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Re: Max Wedge oil pan
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03/27/20 04:25 PM
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I used the Milodon street HEMI pan and it barely fits the stock K-frame. Gus
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Re: Max Wedge oil pan
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03/28/20 12:20 AM
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I used the Milodon street HEMI pan and it barely fits the stock K-frame. Gus I've tried the '70-'71 Hemi pan, it definitely hits the K-frame pretty hard, not gonna work.
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Re: Max Wedge oil pan
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I made the K frame so ANY pan will fit Now I can get to the bolts going into the timing cover with a straight extension That's one solution, but not keeping with the "Day 2" flavor of the car. That is why I'm trying to find the sump depth of the Max Wedge and ''66-'69 Hemi pans.
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Re: Max Wedge oil pan
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The best working and fit is the 1966 to 1969 street hemi oil pan, been there done that swap on a bunch of 1963 to 1965 B body street drag and race only cars Those pans are about 1 to 2.0 inches deeper than the original air sucking swinging pick up long sump M.W. oil pans on the OEM M.W. motors. I think a 3/8 NPT stock oil pickup for a 1965 to 1970 C body B-R/B motor will fit and work good If your block has been modded for the larger 1/2 NPT then use the stock street Hemi oil pick up Cab, do you know how many quarts those pans hold in the sump up to the baffle?
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Re: Max Wedge oil pan
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03/28/20 01:13 PM
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No I don't, sorry I put 5 quarts in them plus one for the stock oil filter I like and use the stock 1970-71 6 quart Hemi and six pack oil pans on all my motors that pan will fit in the owners cars It is shallower and longer on the sump so it probably won't fit into a early B body with the stock K member and motor mounts, but maybe it will I have a 1963 Plymouth Fury that I'm going to build for myself, I bought a 1966 to 1971 B body V8 K member for it so I can use that oil pan, that slides the motor back about a 1.5 inches and down lower in the chassis also and looks stock to most people also
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Re: Max Wedge oil pan
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03/28/20 06:05 PM
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Does anybody know what the sump depths are for the Max Wedge and '66 to '69 Hemi oil pans are? Tried calling Mancini, they are down to a skeleton staff and can't readily pull them from the shelves for measurement. Looking for options that will fit my '65 Dodge Coronet RB. Is your engine in the stock location for a 1965 B body car? If so you'll have limited options.
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Re: Max Wedge oil pan
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No I don't, sorry I put 5 quarts in them plus one for the stock oil filter I like and use the stock 1970-71 6 quart Hemi and six pack oil pans on all my motors that pan will fit in the owners cars It is shallower and longer on the sump so it probably won't fit into a early B body with the stock K member and motor mounts, but maybe it will I have a 1963 Plymouth Fury that I'm going to build for myself, I bought a 1966 to 1971 B body V8 K member for it so I can use that oil pan, that slides the motor back about a 1.5 inches and down lower in the chassis also and looks stock to most people also My car has the original '65 k-frame, and I have tried the six pack / Hemi pan, will not fit without major modification. Using a later k-frame is a great idea, but my headers, exhaust system, driveshaft, etc., are all set up for the original location.
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Re: Max Wedge oil pan
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03/29/20 01:19 PM
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My car was completely strip for painting inside and out so I can put it back the way I want it this stupid car has a 1962 K member in it that is allowing the steering to rub on the torsion bars really bad so that is one of the reasons to swap it out for a later one, there are a lot better and cheaper choices on headers also for the 1966 to 1972 B and E body cars I'm hoping to start on putting it back together this fall or winter after finishing my 1940 Ford Tudor
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Re: Max Wedge oil pan
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03/29/20 01:23 PM
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Standard maxwedge pan takes 4 quarts to the baffles.
For the street add 1 quart for the filter to those 4 as a minimum. That is after your first oil change since a new engine will “use up” at least a quart filling all the passages. That’s the least I would use to tool around with.
For track use I would add 4 + 1 + 2. 4 in the sump, 1 for the filter and 2 that are in suspension at high engine speed. Better more ( 1 quart) than less as long as you have a windage tray in it. That's the info I'm looking for. I have run the 7 quart Moroso, it fits fine, but I did not like how far down below the k-frame it hangs. So I shortened the sump, and now it only holds 4 quarts to the baffles.
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Re: Max Wedge oil pan
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On my 63 Sport Fury with the stock K-frame I use a Moroso 7 qt pan. It fits with no mods at all. Ron Thanks to everyone for the information. My plan now is to take Transmans advice, I will use the modified Moroso and add the extra quarts, as long as the level stays below the windage tray.
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Re: Max Wedge oil pan
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04/08/20 09:51 AM
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It appears back in the day there were plenty of spun bearings with Max Wedges. I'd opt for a better pan. The closest spot is usually the RF inner flange of the K frame. I've had good success trimming the flange out in that corner. Many times it will make the difference between go and no go. Personally I'll never build another car without a enlarged K-frame. Even with my steering linkage going thru the pan and a diaper the pan comes off in 30 minutes. Doug
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