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Does anybody know what the sump depths are for the Max Wedge and '66 to '69 Hemi oil pans are?
Tried calling Mancini, they are down to a skeleton staff and can't readily pull them from the shelves for measurement.
Looking for options that will fit my '65 Dodge Coronet RB.

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The best working and fit is the 1966 to 1969 street hemi oil pan, been there done that swap on a bunch of 1963 to 1965 B body street drag and race only cars up
Those pans are about 1 to 2.0 inches deeper than the original air sucking swinging pick up long sump M.W. oil pans on the OEM M.W. motors.
I think a 3/8 NPT stock oil pickup for a 1965 to 1970 C body B-R/B motor will fit and work good up scope
If your block has been modded for the larger 1/2 NPT then use the stock street Hemi oil pick up up


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I have a 66 hemi pan on my 63 max wedge clone, and it hangs below the k=member at least an inch or so.

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Originally Posted by old_racer
I have a 66 hemi pan on my 63 max wedge clone, and it hangs below the k=member at least an inch or so.


That helps, I have a deep sump Milodon that hung down about 3", I shortened the sump 2", but now it only holds 4 quarts of oil to the baffle. The only negative I've read about the Max Wedge pan is you have to modify it to fit a windage tray.
I have an issue spending $300 on a pan only to have to blacksmith it. hammer

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I used the Milodon street HEMI pan and it barely fits the stock K-frame.
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I made the K frame so ANY pan will fit up
Now I can get to the bolts going into the timing cover with a straight extension wink

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Originally Posted by fourgearsavoy
I used the Milodon street HEMI pan and it barely fits the stock K-frame.
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I've tried the '70-'71 Hemi pan, it definitely hits the K-frame pretty hard, not gonna work.

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Originally Posted by hemi-itis
I made the K frame so ANY pan will fit up
Now I can get to the bolts going into the timing cover with a straight extension wink


That's one solution, but not keeping with the "Day 2" flavor of the car.
That is why I'm trying to find the sump depth of the Max Wedge and ''66-'69 Hemi pans.

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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
The best working and fit is the 1966 to 1969 street hemi oil pan, been there done that swap on a bunch of 1963 to 1965 B body street drag and race only cars up
Those pans are about 1 to 2.0 inches deeper than the original air sucking swinging pick up long sump M.W. oil pans on the OEM M.W. motors.
I think a 3/8 NPT stock oil pickup for a 1965 to 1970 C body B-R/B motor will fit and work good up scope
If your block has been modded for the larger 1/2 NPT then use the stock street Hemi oil pick up up


Cab, do you know how many quarts those pans hold in the sump up to the baffle?

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No I don't, sorry confused I put 5 quarts in them plus one for the stock oil filter up
I like and use the stock 1970-71 6 quart Hemi and six pack oil pans on all my motors that pan will fit in the owners cars up It is shallower and longer on the sump so it probably won't fit into a early B body with the stock K member and motor mounts, but maybe it will scope
I have a 1963 Plymouth Fury that I'm going to build for myself, I bought a 1966 to 1971 B body V8 K member for it so I can use that oil pan, that slides the motor back about a 1.5 inches and down lower in the chassis also and looks stock to most people also devil

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Standard maxwedge pan takes 4 quarts to the baffles.

For the street add 1 quart for the filter to those 4 as a minimum. That is after your first oil change since a new engine will “use up” at least a quart filling all the passages. That’s the least I would use to tool around with.

For track use I would add 4 + 1 + 2. 4 in the sump, 1 for the filter and 2 that are in suspension at high engine speed. Better more ( 1 quart) than less as long as you have a windage tray in it.


As for using a Hemi pan I have one on my 62 and with the standard k frame it just touches on the passenger side radius of the k frame to the pass side front of the sump. I would take that radius of the k frame and remove it as much as you can staying away from the spot welds of the k frame.

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Originally Posted by powertrip
Does anybody know what the sump depths are for the Max Wedge and '66 to '69 Hemi oil pans are?
Tried calling Mancini, they are down to a skeleton staff and can't readily pull them from the shelves for measurement.
Looking for options that will fit my '65 Dodge Coronet RB.


Is your engine in the stock location for a 1965 B body car? If so you'll have limited options.

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There are great options if you follow what has been said already.

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On my 63 Sport Fury with the stock K-frame I use a Moroso 7 qt pan. It fits with no mods at all. Ron

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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
No I don't, sorry confused I put 5 quarts in them plus one for the stock oil filter up
I like and use the stock 1970-71 6 quart Hemi and six pack oil pans on all my motors that pan will fit in the owners cars up It is shallower and longer on the sump so it probably won't fit into a early B body with the stock K member and motor mounts, but maybe it will scope
I have a 1963 Plymouth Fury that I'm going to build for myself, I bought a 1966 to 1971 B body V8 K member for it so I can use that oil pan, that slides the motor back about a 1.5 inches and down lower in the chassis also and looks stock to most people also devil


My car has the original '65 k-frame, and I have tried the six pack / Hemi pan, will not fit without major modification.
Using a later k-frame is a great idea, but my headers, exhaust system, driveshaft, etc., are all set up for the original location.

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My car was completely strip for painting inside and out so I can put it back the way I want it up
this stupid car has a 1962 K member in it that is allowing the steering to rub on the torsion bars really bad so that is one of the reasons to swap it out for a later one, there are a lot better and cheaper choices on headers also for the 1966 to 1972 B and E body cars up
I'm hoping to start on putting it back together this fall or winter after finishing my 1940 Ford Tudor luck


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Originally Posted by Transman
Standard maxwedge pan takes 4 quarts to the baffles.

For the street add 1 quart for the filter to those 4 as a minimum. That is after your first oil change since a new engine will “use up” at least a quart filling all the passages. That’s the least I would use to tool around with.

For track use I would add 4 + 1 + 2. 4 in the sump, 1 for the filter and 2 that are in suspension at high engine speed. Better more ( 1 quart) than less as long as you have a windage tray in it.


That's the info I'm looking for. up
I have run the 7 quart Moroso, it fits fine, but I did not like how far down below the k-frame it hangs. So I shortened the sump, and now it only holds 4 quarts to the baffles.

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Originally Posted by 383man
On my 63 Sport Fury with the stock K-frame I use a Moroso 7 qt pan. It fits with no mods at all. Ron


Thanks to everyone for the information.
My plan now is to take Transmans advice, I will use the modified Moroso and add the extra quarts, as long as the level stays below the windage tray. wrench

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Standard Max Wedge pan with a 3 Quart accumulator .

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It appears back in the day there were plenty of spun bearings with Max Wedges. I'd opt for a better pan. The closest spot is usually the RF inner flange of the K frame. I've had good success trimming the flange out in that corner. Many times it will make the difference between go and no go. Personally I'll never build another car without a enlarged K-frame. Even with my steering linkage going thru the pan and a diaper the pan comes off in 30 minutes.
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